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MIL causing us to split

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HappyMommy96 · 09/10/2021 16:47

Hello,
Before starting this post, me and my partner get on exceptionally well we never argue, never have problems just when his mum gets involved.

So a short run down of the story, we’re currently homeless, I’m 20 weeks pregnant, we have a 1 year old, we’re moving all of our belongings out of our current house to the storage unit and staying with my parents till we get somewhere. We were busy all morning loading my dads van with all of our belongings then once my parents leave to take our things to the storage unit my boyfriends mum starts telling me she’s never felt so uncomfortable, I ask her why and she said she said good morning to me and I didn’t reply and no one has spoke to her, keep in mind we were all busy loading a van while she’s stood in the kitchen on her phone nontheless, I apologised and said I didn’t hear her but when I walked past her multiple times she was on the phone? Anyway she then kept moaning to herself and hysterically crying how she won’t help me move the heavy boxes and I can do it myself? So I ignored her. She has mental health issues and often has emotional outbursts so I carry on moving boxes for easily putting it in my parents van round 2 to take to storage. Then she asks if we’re taking the sofa. Which annoyed me as I’ve been asking my boyfriend for weeks to tell her we don’t want it. She flipped and then out of nowhere starts arguing with me. I told her to stop making everything about her, then she points at me and said I make everything about me... interesting for the woman who is having an emotional outburst because I didn’t say good morning to her... 🤣 then I told her to fuck off then she got angrier. In the midst my boyfriend did fuck all to stick up for me when this whole situation is his fault for not communicating with his parents about not wanting the sofas. I told him to say something to his mother but he told ME to calm down.

I’m pretty angry about the whole situation as there’s no need for his mothers constant emotional outbursts where she’s downright nasty to me (happened to me many times before) but the thing that annoys me is my boyfriend never EVER sticks up for me or talks to his mum about how she’s in the wrong. I just don’t know how much more I can take of his mum having emotional outbursts on me and being horrible to me, my boyfriend saying nothing and then sweeping it under the rug like nothing happened days later? I want to leave my boyfriend because I don’t see this getting any better, but am I being petty, any advice?

TLDR; bf’s mum has mental health issues, constantly has emotional outbursts out on me which leads to her saying lots of nasty things to me and bf never sticks up for me or doesn’t sit and talk with his mum how she’s in the wrong. Am I wrong for leaving my boyfriend over it?

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saraclara · 09/10/2021 22:54

@vdbfamily

My DH grew up in a dysfunctional family with an abusive mother. He was never able to stand up to her as he is very anxious following his childhood experiences. I tried hard not to ever make him piggy in the middle between us as he would not have coped. When we choose to spend life with our partners, we usually have a sense of their strengths and weaknesses. These are not going to change. I suspect your partner just felt trapped in some awful nightmare where you and his mum were yelling at each other. You are both very stressed. Be kind to each other.
That. Your DH is probably frozen when faced with this kind of thing. I didn't become able to challenge my mother until a few years ago. And I'm in my 60s.

If you've grown up with an unpredictable and volatile mother, you cope by avoiding anything that will set them off. There is still part of me, at 65, who is that anxious, scared child who will do anything to avoid the consequences. And that will be the case until she dies.

I've only actually been able to get angry with her since she became disabled. It kind of evened up the power balance. (Now there's something to unpick) Confused

BoredZelda · 09/10/2021 22:55

I don't think the stuff about the boyfriend choosing to impregnate her is clumsy wording, it's the language of a judgmental twat.

But, not wrong.

HappyMommy96 · 09/10/2021 23:09

@NowEvenBetter

How did you all end up homeless? How is that being rectified? It’s shocking that your boyfriend chose to impregnate you again, this is a chaotic, unhappy life. Don’t see what relevance your boyfriends mother has, compared to the enormous, disastrous situation you’re in.
Our landlord decided to sell the house and handed us a notice to leave.

We thought we had a new house after we paid £2300 to William H Brown and signed tenancy forms and they made us set up all our bills then on Thursday night got a call that the landlord doesn’t want to rent a property with a child in, lady at William H brown apologised said we’d get a refund in 8 days and woe is life. We’ve already set up multiple viewings next week and hoping to be out of my parents in a week or two. Well we’re both very happy and want another child and super happy for the next little baby so your comment is hilariously odd and distasteful 🤣 but thank you for the laugh!

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HappyMommy96 · 09/10/2021 23:10

@BoredZelda

I don't think the stuff about the boyfriend choosing to impregnate her is clumsy wording, it's the language of a judgmental twat.

But, not wrong.

Very wrong sadly. 🤣
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QueenBee52 · 09/10/2021 23:24

You did the right thing OP... She was looking for a fight.. she got one 😂

Rangoon · 10/10/2021 03:28

I think you're getting a rough time here. You're being left to pack and lift boxes when you're five months pregnant while your dp's mother is wittering on her phone and telling you off for not saying good morning. Your dp sounds weak and ineffectual and I wouldn't give a toss that he was in the fog or whatever reason he has for not managing to advance from childhood and support his partner I'd bin the pair of them.

Lullaby88 · 10/10/2021 05:57

I'd never tell my MIL f off. Surprised ur bf didn't say anything to u. That's just rude of u. U should apologise if anything.
I also think if someone has MH then u hav to be more sensitive to their feelings. If u saw her and she wasn't chatting on the phone then why can't u say hi? If so was having a verbal conversation I get why u wouldn't but if she was texting then u can still say hi u alright?

Why2why · 10/10/2021 08:02

The thing about these threads is the initial story changes and the behaviour of the person the poster is unhappy is described in increasing dramatic terms. Plus the person is then accused of doing all sorts that were never mentioned in the original post.

Sorry OP, I think that as you did not get the level of sympathy you expected, you have begun to accuse your mother in law of saying and doing a whole lot more than you implied in your post.

At the end of the day, you are in a tough situation; you and your boyfriend have bigger problems than his mother.

There is no excuse for swearing at his mother and then expecting him to support you in swearing at his mother just sounds like a completely unreasonable expectation.

Good luck..

NeverTheHootenanny · 10/10/2021 08:43

If I was having such a stressful time, pregnant, trying to pack up my home and look after a 1 year old, and somebody turned up and started shouting at me, I would also tell them to fuck off. If she treats you like this regularly it’s inevitable that you would snap eventually.

It sounds like you have a good relationship with your boyfriend so I’m not sure breaking up over this is the right answer. But he does need to find ways to challenge his mother’s behaviour towards you. In your position I would be breaking contact with her and letting him deal with her from now on. Mental health issues don’t give you a free pass to treat people like shit.

Selttan · 10/10/2021 09:12

I'm completely missing the point of the thread but why was she even there?

Were you living with her? Just sounds like she was there to hinder and not help.

I'd lose my patience too. She is not your problem to deal with - your partner need to stop leaving her with you and buggering off.

Hopefully living with your parents for a bit means you can avoid her for awhile.

QueenBee52 · 10/10/2021 11:52

She sounds like a right PITA ...

telling her to Fuck Off sounds fair enough ... 🤣

youvegottenminuteslynn · 10/10/2021 14:49

Though personally if possible I wouldn’t want my children growing up in a broken family.

This is such a horrible and overused phrase that really stigmatises being a child whose parents aren't together.

It's perfectly possible for kids to have two healthy, happy parents who are no longer in a relationship. And much better for them to have those two healthy, happy parents living separately than under the same toxic and dysfunctional roof.

I'm not describing your relationship as one of those OP, just pointing out that the wording can be really harmful especially for kids. It also adds shame and fear of judgement to women who want to leave unhappy relationships who then end up staying 'for the kids'.

I don't think broken family / broken home should be phrases used in 2021.

Sorry for my TED Talk!

HappyMommy96 · 10/10/2021 16:13

@Selttan

I'm completely missing the point of the thread but why was she even there?

Were you living with her? Just sounds like she was there to hinder and not help.

I'd lose my patience too. She is not your problem to deal with - your partner need to stop leaving her with you and buggering off.

Hopefully living with your parents for a bit means you can avoid her for awhile.

She told us with me being pregnant she was coming to help lift boxes. Though she never lifted anything. Nope she weren’t living with us. My parents don’t see eye to eye with her, she tries to avoid my parents plus had a chat with my mum about it and she called my parents and was threatening down the phone how she wants to kill herself and then started making up bizarre lies. My parents just told her their trying to unpack all of our belongings in storage and they’ll speak to her when they get back. My parents calmed her down in the end.

Had a big talk with my partner about it he admitted he’s afraid of speaking to his mum for fear of these emotional outbursts. We discussed how in the next following weeks how we will slowly limit our contact with her.

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HappyMommy96 · 10/10/2021 16:15

@QueenBee52

She sounds like a right PITA ...

telling her to Fuck Off sounds fair enough ... 🤣

🤣🤣
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Hmumoftw0 · 10/10/2021 16:21

@HappyMommy96 Distance yourself now whilst your living with your parents and she cant just show up, talk to your partner calmly, tell him you understand she has MH problems but its not fair for her to take that out on you anymore and that if he isn't going to step in when these situations arise it will end up splitting you up, also make sure he is aware he doesn't need to stick up for either of you he needs to stay neutral and diffuse the situation!!

My MIL is a POS so I keep my distance and only deal with her when I feel like it, they also know not to come round without texting first (so I can mentally prepare to deal with her wacky attention seeking behaviour) and if they ever do we are conveniently just on our way out ☺️

HappyMommy96 · 10/10/2021 16:25

@NeverTheHootenanny

If I was having such a stressful time, pregnant, trying to pack up my home and look after a 1 year old, and somebody turned up and started shouting at me, I would also tell them to fuck off. If she treats you like this regularly it’s inevitable that you would snap eventually.

It sounds like you have a good relationship with your boyfriend so I’m not sure breaking up over this is the right answer. But he does need to find ways to challenge his mother’s behaviour towards you. In your position I would be breaking contact with her and letting him deal with her from now on. Mental health issues don’t give you a free pass to treat people like shit.

We spoke and sorted it out, our best solution is minimising contact with her because neither of us want to deal with her emotional outbursts/anger/guilt tripping. I agree, I’m sympathetic to people suffering MH issues but there’s only so much people can take!
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HappyMommy96 · 10/10/2021 16:35

@youvegottenminuteslynn

Though personally if possible I wouldn’t want my children growing up in a broken family.

This is such a horrible and overused phrase that really stigmatises being a child whose parents aren't together.

It's perfectly possible for kids to have two healthy, happy parents who are no longer in a relationship. And much better for them to have those two healthy, happy parents living separately than under the same toxic and dysfunctional roof.

I'm not describing your relationship as one of those OP, just pointing out that the wording can be really harmful especially for kids. It also adds shame and fear of judgement to women who want to leave unhappy relationships who then end up staying 'for the kids'.

I don't think broken family / broken home should be phrases used in 2021.

Sorry for my TED Talk!

Don’t be sorry! I totally understand, co-parenting can be healthy and much better for children, than a toxic household! I totally agree!
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QueenBee52 · 10/10/2021 16:39

Well done OP..... 🌸

HappyMommy96 · 10/10/2021 16:41

@Lullaby88

I'd never tell my MIL f off. Surprised ur bf didn't say anything to u. That's just rude of u. U should apologise if anything. I also think if someone has MH then u hav to be more sensitive to their feelings. If u saw her and she wasn't chatting on the phone then why can't u say hi? If so was having a verbal conversation I get why u wouldn't but if she was texting then u can still say hi u alright?
The entire time I saw her she was on her phone and then I was busy moving our belongings. There’s bigger things going on then having a chat. Just because someone has mental health issues doesn’t mean I have to be a door mat and accept verbal abuse. My bf doesn’t get along with his mum and finds her annoying at best. If her emotional outbursts get worse we will just end up going no contact, like her other son.
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Pugmumm · 10/10/2021 16:44

Unfortunately SOME MIL's are like this. I can totally sympathise. She knows her son won't call her out on her behaviour so she continues. I've been in the same situation once or twice so I dealt with it myself as DP wouldn't. If Your partner doesn't like the way you have to deal with this for yourself then there's your answer. You are priority at the moment. Understand he loves his mum also but you too... probably being pulled in two directions but she wouldn't put him in this position, maybe same goes for you OP a bit? You can either rise above it or call her out on it again. If you go.... she's won.

Your pregnant and trying to do the best you can, she is causing drama and making it all about 'her' total narcissist. Why would she expect you so strongly to say good morning and if you didn't, why has this triggered her so much?

Is she one of those that think no one is good enough for DS Hmm

Pugmumm · 10/10/2021 16:45

I do agree with other posters, just apologise for the telling her to 'f' off. She has something against you now. Be the bigger person and it will show DP also...

Lullaby88 · 10/10/2021 23:05

@HappyMommy96 fair enough but still no need for the verbal abuse. U can still have some contact with her as no contact seems rather harsh.
I do get ur frustrations but there is always a middle ground right? And also how u react. Sometimes silence is golden so save the bad language and use ur silence as a tool. Then u and ur partner can discreetly limit the contact. For people with Mental health it won't be pleasant triggering them.

QueenBee52 · 11/10/2021 00:16

so many people offended by being told to Fuck Off 🤣😂

Intercity225 · 14/10/2021 10:25

so many people offended by being told to Fuck Off

IMO, it's not language, nor behaviour to use in front of young children - who will eventually pick it up and repeat it, say at nursery!

Besides which, it is utterly pointless saying it to someone with MH problems, who is already beyond rational; and it could only provoke them more!

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