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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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expat101 · 07/10/2021 22:22

Good on you @Neverkins!

Everything you have said about the fellow could be our former neighbour (although I think he is still with his wife) and we ended up trespassing him and involving the police because he was entering our property and taking photos too.

Would spend a lot of time watching our then school-aged daughter and would try and hide behind the corner of his house if she looked up. Nasty stuff.

The naked partner in comprising photos, belittling her and taking over the joint finances because he was supposedly more experienced (just before she was made redundant, he was allocating her the price of a coffee for a fuel allowance to get to and fro work each day), sexual dysfunction (confided in a neighbour who was his drinking partner at the time), alcohol issues, and lying is him to a T.

I'm so pleased you have your friend's support as well long before he was able to damage that.
In our neighbour's case, he used his wife's social media account to continue a conversation I was having with her, when she had gone off for a shower (she wrote this later when she saw what happened). But initially, I thought it was still her I was chatting with!

Brace yourself for a bit of a rough ride with him and if necessary, don't take too long in blocking his number.

How do you get on with your neighbours? Are they used to seeing him around? If so, can you have a chat with them and let them know what has happened and that if he should turn up there, to let you know or call the police? We know our nhbr was still jumping the gate after the police visited him although seemed to know our camera locations and how to avoid them.

When he does make contact, initially it's quite likely he is going to tell you everything you want to hear, that he is so sorry, that he is embarrassed with what happened to your card that day and that ''they'' must have ripped you off and it wasn't him, things that sound plausible but really are far from the truth. Please try and be strong, don't give him any time to ''explain'' and be firm he does not contact you ever again.

If you feel even a small urge to give it another go, come back here and let the sisterhood of MN sort it out and provide you with support.

Casiloco · 07/10/2021 22:23

So many red flags. And to be honest, the "keeping his money in crypto" would be enough on its own for me to be running for cover.

You deserve better.

Voice0fReason · 07/10/2021 22:27

I am so glad you've managed to put an end to this nightmare.
I hope he does accept it without giving you any more grief.

Theblacksheepandme · 07/10/2021 22:27

FlorenciaFlora
Your friend should have told you about the gross sexual remark ages ago.

I agree and wouldn't be too impressed with my friend keeping that information from me.

Amandasummers · 07/10/2021 22:29

Hope you’re ok op. You have massively done the right thing! He sounds horrific x

Sproutpie · 07/10/2021 22:31

Well done you. Keep strong. You’ve done the right thing.

AutumnDaysLove · 07/10/2021 22:33

As others have said - he 100% sounds like a narcissist. Expect a backlash of some kind because narcissists are not too keen on being 'wounded'.
If he threatens at all to share those photos, go to the police immediately. It wouldn't surprise me if he did this as revenge.
You've absolutely done the right thing by ending this.

HappyDays101010 · 07/10/2021 22:34

I would t place too much blame on the friend for not telling you about the sexual remark. It’s very difficult to be place in that kind of situation - we all know that it’s the messenger that’s likely to get shot.

Confusedpapoose · 07/10/2021 22:36

Well done, you did the right thing. Hope you manage to get some rest tonight x

AutumnDaysLove · 07/10/2021 22:36

@DeireadhFomhair

I think he's read it but on airplane mode so you won't know, and he can play dumb & turn up on your doorstep. I would definitely go stay with your friend for the weekend.
I also thought this could be a possibility. Playing dumb, acting like he didn't get it and just showing up. Please be careful.
Jux · 07/10/2021 22:37

Stay strong op. turn your phone off for the night so you sleep or he'll be calling you every 5 minutes.

Cormoran · 07/10/2021 22:37

If message was on WhatsApp, it can be read without the double blue ticks appearing. To read the message , one only needs to close app, put phone in flight
Mode, read message and close app again before turning phone on normal mode.
So don’t assume he hasn’t read it because there is no blue tick.
You lived on a very long memory of a crush and now that the nostalgia has passed, you have the clear head to see you are better off without him.
Good riddance. Block him on all media.

Neverkins · 07/10/2021 22:38

@FlorenciaFlora

Your friend should have told you about the gross sexual remark ages ago.
I don’t disagree but I can understand why she didn’t. Firstly I’d made it clear to her before I introduced them that I was head over heels in love and that I finally had what I’d always wanted. I really don’t think I’d have done anything about it at the time, except apologised to her on his behalf. Also, I’ve always been quite private about sex and she would have worried about me being embarrassed or feeling exposed. As it happens the comment wasn’t even factually accurate so wouldn’t have embarrassed me in that way, but she wasn’t to know that.

He was drunk too, of course, so a one-off gross comment might have been easier to excuse than if he was obviously sober.

He’s sent a few messages now but I don’t want to read them, even though I feel like if there are any threats in them it would be better to know.

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JanglyBeads · 07/10/2021 22:38

Have only read your posts OP, so apologies if someone’s suggested this already, but I think you need to speak to Women’s Aid, another domestic violence or anti-stalking organisation or the police, because you need to make a safety plan.

So you know what to do if he does turn up at yours or your parents, being in the slightest way objectionable. You’ve mentioned that you’re worried about what he might be like.
There is some general advice on the women’s aid website.

JanglyBeads · 07/10/2021 22:39

You need to keep all texts (as screenshots if you prefer) and be prepared to record anything else that happens.

ooft · 07/10/2021 22:40

Well done op. I've rtft and you have done the right thing. Stay strong. I actually agree that the naked sleeping photo alone could be an offence and it's worth reporting all the circumstances to police.

thenewduchessofhastings · 07/10/2021 22:41

🚨🚨🚨COCKLODGER ALERT🚨🚨🚨

iheartredsquirrels · 07/10/2021 22:43

Good for you getting rid of him. Too many women remain with men like this and have the ties of a dc with them.

katemuff · 07/10/2021 22:49

Well done OP, stay strong

Pallisers · 07/10/2021 22:50

well done OP. really well done.

If I were you I'd change your debit card details and, honestly, would consider having a session or two with a therapist to discuss why you fell for him in the first place. But you are so strong and smart to just get out at this stage.

Tistheseason17 · 07/10/2021 22:50

Good riddance- well done, OP.

VioletVesper · 07/10/2021 22:51

Well done OP, you have done the right think and it was better you ended it now than further down the line. I hope you’re feeling ok.

AngelicaSchuylerAndHerSisters · 07/10/2021 22:53

Well done, OP!

CheekyHobson · 07/10/2021 22:55

@Neverkins

Something to understand really clearly is that when we talk about "abusive people" most of us immediately imagine physical violence and explicit threats.

But those are usually the last tools of control abusers use. Before then they always start with verbal abuse (criticising you, using a nickname they know you hate), covert abuse (lying to you, hiding things from you, stealing from you) and emotional abuse (bombarding you with words and messages until you're overwhelmed, telling you what you should think, being unreliable, blaming you for their reactions).

This is because the abuser does not know how to control himself when he feels uncomfortable emotions and the only way he feels better is when he 'offloads' those uncomfortable feelings onto you (so you become the one feeling uncomfortable). Him bombarding you with messages even though you haven't responded to any of them shows that his emotions are running wild. He's lost control and he's freaking out trying to regain it, trying lots of different strategies.

If you read the messages, do it with a cool head. Look to see if there are any direct threats to you that need to be addressed. Otherwise, just tell yourself: "His emotions are not my emergency." He feels upset but it's not your job to soothe him on demand. He has to learn to do that himself.

lilmishap · 07/10/2021 22:59

Threats are likely to be an attempt to get you to engage with him when he's tried a few tactics and got no response.. Don't engage.

IF he threatens anything and you feel genuinely concerned, you don't need to tell him that you'll call police as he'll work that out for himself when they arrive. Do not engage with him.