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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

OP posts:
Mulhollandmagoo · 07/10/2021 21:19

Hope you're OK Flowers

lynxca16 · 07/10/2021 21:20

Agree with other posts - No just No this is not a good person in any way.
Get out now before things go any further and order a new bank card.

Liz1tummypain · 07/10/2021 21:20

Do like the SAS do and get out quick. He's a bad 'un.

Neverkins · 07/10/2021 21:21

He still hasn’t read the message but must have got the gist from the preview or something (maybe so that he could say he didn’t know I don’t want him to contact me, or perhaps I’m being paranoid there). Multiple calls and a couple of voicemails. I listened to the first one which was pleading with me to call him. He also used a nickname for me that I’ve told him multiple times I really don’t like (for good reasons I explained to him). I know it’s such a petty little thing but it’s made me even more sure that I’m making the right decision as he doesn’t have much respect for any of my preferences or boundaries. I haven’t responded to him but I’m bracing myself for tomorrow which is when he might start to think I’m actually being serious.

I’ve had a good chat with my friend. She asked if I wanted to stay at her place tonight, but I feel safer here as I’d want to know if he did turn up. She didn’t hold back about her opinions of him, but I did know she wasn’t keen on him. What I didn’t know was that when they first met he made a really gross and graphic sexual comment about me to her that made her quite uncomfortable.

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MyPatronusIsACat · 07/10/2021 21:21

@Neverkins

What a bloody awful man he sounds. Well done for texting him, and ending it. I pray he accepts it, and doesn't hound or stalk you. Shock

Have you seen Dear John ??? On Netflix. If not, do watch it. This man you have just dumped, sounds scarily like the main character (John!) .... Shock

All the best OP. Flowers Keep us updated and let us know you are OK.

MyPatronusIsACat · 07/10/2021 21:23

@Neverkins

He still hasn’t read the message but must have got the gist from the preview or something (maybe so that he could say he didn’t know I don’t want him to contact me, or perhaps I’m being paranoid there). Multiple calls and a couple of voicemails. I listened to the first one which was pleading with me to call him. He also used a nickname for me that I’ve told him multiple times I really don’t like (for good reasons I explained to him). I know it’s such a petty little thing but it’s made me even more sure that I’m making the right decision as he doesn’t have much respect for any of my preferences or boundaries. I haven’t responded to him but I’m bracing myself for tomorrow which is when he might start to think I’m actually being serious.

I’ve had a good chat with my friend. She asked if I wanted to stay at her place tonight, but I feel safer here as I’d want to know if he did turn up. She didn’t hold back about her opinions of him, but I did know she wasn’t keen on him. What I didn’t know was that when they first met he made a really gross and graphic sexual comment about me to her that made her quite uncomfortable.

Your friend sounds fab! But this doesn't sound great that he has left multiple voicemails begging you to call. And using a nickname he knows you hate. He sounds unhinged!

Be strong

AperturePriority · 07/10/2021 21:26

Well done OP on recognising he's not the man for you. You've got a great friend.

Iloveabourbon2 · 07/10/2021 21:26

@StrawberrySquirrelThief

Run for the hills! He sounds pretty awful OP - sorry.
Agreed
MummyofTw0 · 07/10/2021 21:27

Huge welldone for finishing it and listening to the advice here xx

CaveMum · 07/10/2021 21:28

@Neverkins you objecting to his using the nickname you’ve explicitly asked him not is not petty at all. He’s showing you in big neon letters that he thoroughly disrespects you and your wishes.

Keep strong and do not answer his calls. Get your friend to listen to the voicemails and relay the gist to you. If he continues to call/attempt to contact you you need to send him a very brief “I’ve asked you not to contact me. If you continue to do so I will report you for harassment.” and then follow through by reporting to the police.

BobaFettOnMyBedsideTable · 07/10/2021 21:28

Oh god OP he sounds like he'd turn out to be a total nightmare. You've absolutely done the right thing. A case of the reality not living up to the fantasy.

Stay strong, block and ignore. He'd of ruined your life.

longtompot · 07/10/2021 21:29

I think the more you speak to your friends the more you will found out that they didn't like him at all. I'm glad your friend is there for you. I hope the ex doesn't escalate things after leaving those messages. I believe you can have a message as unread if you have your phone on airplane mode. I wonder if this is what he has done so has read your message but doesn't want you to know it.

Noname1999 · 07/10/2021 21:31

Run! 🏃‍♀️

(You can do better!)

ArranMumma · 07/10/2021 21:31

Deffo don’t answer your phone tonight if you can. He will just be drunk and irrational due to the shock of it. Let him sleep on it and hopefully he will be more sensible in the morning .....

cakecakecheese · 07/10/2021 21:32

Oh gosh, it sounded bad in the first post but the subsequent updates are horrendous. I'm so glad you have realised how bad this actually is. I can see why you fell for it based on your previous history but never ignore red flags and trust your gut.

DeireadhFomhair · 07/10/2021 21:33

I think he's read it but on airplane mode so you won't know, and he can play dumb & turn up on your doorstep.
I would definitely go stay with your friend for the weekend.

Bonbon21 · 07/10/2021 21:33

You are 36... succesful career, financially secure and independent and settling for this crap??
Seriously??

LatteLady · 07/10/2021 21:34

OP you are not the first and you will not be the last. I lost my house in similar circumstances because I did not listen to my head.

Can I suggest that you consider changing your lock and that you change the passwords on your important accounts tonight. You might even want to check that are no tracking devices on your personal phone or any key stroke software on any IT kit that you have at home. Better safe than sorry.

DeepaBeesKit · 07/10/2021 21:36

Oh god hon run. Run a mile.

RosesandPumpkins · 07/10/2021 21:36

Please get rid you deserve so much better. He’s defensive and petty and jealous and a liar.

Honeyroar · 07/10/2021 21:37

Well done. Stay strong.

CheekyHobson · 07/10/2021 21:38

I know it’s such a petty little thing

It's not a petty little thing at all.

By the time most people feel comfortable using a nickname for someone, they know that person well enough to know what they would or wouldn't like to be called, so never give them a nickname that they would find upsetting in the first place.

And if they did somehow give a loved one a nickname they didn't like without realising that it would upset them, almost all people would stop using it after being told just once, "Hey, I don't really like that nickname, could you stop calling me that?" They wouldn't need a reason to stop other than the person doesn't like it, much less multiple reasons.

Finally, in the very unlikely situation that they did forget and use it again, they would be hugely embarrassed and apologetic. Nobody should require multiple reminders about this.

To use it in a message after a break-up call is a test, make no mistake. If you were prepared to ignore it, it's a clear signal to him about the strength of your boundaries (or willingness to be flexible with them).

I think a really good thing that could come out of this would be for you to recognise your own tendency to downplay/invalidate your own feelings/needs, look at where that tendency came from (it didn't come from nowhere, you learned to do this in a close relationship with someone!) and do some work on validating yourself.

I don't say it unkindly at all but the fact that you've struggled with an eating disorder is a pretty clear signal that not all was well in your childhood, whether that's within your family, your peer group or a painful event that happened to you. Time to engage in some really deep self-care here.

Hogwarts21 · 07/10/2021 21:39

He may not go easily. Be very very careful. Say you're not feeling good mentally right now and it's nothing to do with him but you need to be alone.

DON'T blame him in any way. If he senses you've seen right through him he could get very nasty. He strikes me as a very unpleasant person, capable of much further nastiness.

He thought he could manipulate you and control you and then once he'd used you for all his ill gotten gains, he would have thrown you to the dogs. Only sniffing around because you have money I'm sorry to say. He thought he could butter you up and then help himself to your cash once he softened you up.

What a nasty evil person. He's been whisking you off your feet for one reason and one reason only, you've got something he wants - money. He is a complete and utter weirdo and I'm so glad you've seen through him.

Dontgetyerknicksinatwist · 07/10/2021 21:40

I would change your bank card if you haven’t already done so

PrincessNutNuts · 07/10/2021 21:41

Well done @Neverkins.

He won't respect this boundary any more than he respected any of your others, but your eyes are open to it now.

We're all behind you.

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