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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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Tilltheend99 · 07/10/2021 17:14

@BudrosBudrosGalli

If he apparently felt so wrong to have sex with another woman, he should have remained single. That is the biggest bullshit, I have read in a long, long time! He either can't get it up due to a variety of reasons, or he is not into you but wants your money. Sorry to be so hard.
Or he has an STD he doesn’t want you to know about. (Also sorry to be harsh)

Agree with all the leave and block comments.

AnotherThingToDo · 07/10/2021 17:16

Your instincts are telling you this is all wrong - listen to them.

bigbeatmanifesto · 07/10/2021 17:17

I'd meet up one last time take his phone remove all the images and then dump him.
He sounds like a Grade A weirdo OP.

HyggeTygge · 07/10/2021 17:17

A few times he’s asked me to pay for things because his card’s been declined. He always says it’s because he keeps all of his money in savings accounts and crypto and transfers money across to his current account each day but sometimes it takes a while to arrive.

I'm sorry but how did you not laugh in his face when he came out with this?
Did you actually believe him?

He sounds like THE WORST.

jessycake · 07/10/2021 17:18

Can you get into his phone and delete the pics before you dump him ?

ChargingBuck · 07/10/2021 17:21

When I say I’d like to be aware of what he’s up to, I don’t mean what’s going on in his life or anything. I just meant that I’d like him to think he was getting through to me so that he doesn’t feel the need to contact my family or friends because he feels ignored by me. It feels very frightening to think about how he’d react to being blocked completely. I don’t feel under any sort of physical threat, by the way. No concerns on that front.

You are overthinking this OP.

You are not responsible for how he takes the break-up, you are not responsible for how he chooses to behave, & there is nothing - NOTHING - you can do to control or mitigate how he decides to react.

You seriously need to detach.
You are in danger of making yourself almost 'co-dependent' with someone you are trying to make an Ex!
You are not responsible for him, his feelings, or anything he does - ok?
I suspect you are seeking some feeling of control over what feels like a volatile situation. You CANNOT control it. You can only control what you do, & the only thing you are responsible for in this car crash of the 'relationship' is finishing it with the absolute minimum contact you can manage.

I think you should confide in your folks that he's not the man you thought he was, that he has issues, that you are finishing it, & may need their support & comfort if he kicks off.

Abuse (& he is definitely abusing you) thrives in secrecy.
Remove the secrecy, & a lot of his power falls away.

So give your folks a short, vanilla version about breaking up with him - then text him a Dear John, & block him. You do NOT need to hear his objections to the break up. It is not a negotiation.

All you need to do is get rid, & protect yourself - & the best way to do that is 1) remove the power of secrecy & 2) avoid, avoid, avoid, any contact with him after one short, simple break up text.

Brainwave89 · 07/10/2021 17:22

I see all the signs of a mid life crisis here, along with the a number of concerns..lies...deceit..moving on to quickly after a relationship...over interest in your money. I would consider if this relationship is appropriate.

JamieNorthlife · 07/10/2021 17:23

He is weird. Im genuine scared for you. How fast can you run?

Penistoe · 07/10/2021 17:23

You lost me when you went out with him 3 days after his wife left. Are you in love with him or the fantasy of finally having him. It reminds me so much of a scene from Romy and Michelle’s high school reunion,
You need some self respect. You seem to have a lot going for you. Get rid of the loser.

Theblacksheepandme · 07/10/2021 17:24

I don't think you need to meet the ex or do any sort of investigations on why he split up with his wife. He is an extremely unpleasant person and that is your answer. You definitely need to finish with him. He stole from you at the pub and done a lot worse by manipulating you into taking photos. Please leave him. He is only going to get worse. In relation to being worried about the photos he knows he will be breaking the law if he shares. You did nothing wrong and it was all him. Please do not feel ashamed as it is him that should be ashamed of himself. LEAVE and don't look back.

ChargingBuck · 07/10/2021 17:24

He will be very shocked if I do it with no warning.

NOT YOUR PROBLEM.

& I guarantee you - if you attempt to do a slow fade-out in the hopes it will be easier - YOU will be the one who is shocked by his responses.

Stop trying to manage this man. Just get rid of him already!

Elderflower14 · 07/10/2021 17:25

Have you started running yet??

Wtf86 · 07/10/2021 17:26

More red flags than new Labour. Run run run - I think perhaps don’t even end it face to face I would be worried about his reaction!

Cocomarine · 07/10/2021 17:27

[quote Anonymice1]@Neverkins why don’t you ask him what the £27 was for? It’s not like it’s a strange question. Just ask him now?[/quote]
Absolute pointless engagement though.

He’s hardly going to say, “I nicked it, figured you wouldn’t check your statements that carefully, and you earn enough not to notice and check time. I knew that if you did see it, you’d figure the bar staff made a mistake it stole it, and £20 is low enough that you wouldn’t want the awkwardness of contacting them. Also low enough that there’s no way you’d hassle me over it even if you were suspicious. Oh and by the way it wasn’t just a straight theft - I also got a kick out the fact I was stealing from you, cos I’m a nasty piece of shit.”

No.

He’ll either:

  • blame the bar staff for making a mistake and apologise for not realising.
  • have a go at her for insinuating that he stole it.
MouseRoar · 07/10/2021 17:28

I do agree with previous posters about trying to get hold of his phone to delete the pictures of you before you break the bad news to him. Also, get well versed with the law about him posting pics of you without your consent, so if he threatens you with that, you can clearly tell him the punishment he will be facing (I'm not familiar with UK law in this area).

Hattiehottie · 07/10/2021 17:29

Agree with PP. A slow fade out also suggests to him you're not really sure. Just rip the band aid off.

Text him and tell him it's not working out and that it's best if you don't see each other anymore. Speak to your parents tonight and let them know just in case.

If he does anything with the pictures then threaten him with the Police as revenge porn is a crime.

Practicebeingpatient · 07/10/2021 17:29

He's a scammer. Don't worry about dumping him. He will move on to his next meal ticket very quickly.

If you can't delete the photos send a text after dumping him stating very clearly that he does not have your permission to disseminate them in any way. Add a link to the relevant law/penalties. Warn your parents he is a bit of a nutter and not to open anything he sends them.

WhenPushComesToShove · 07/10/2021 17:29

Dear God; run like the wind. Maybe one more meeting where you can get hold of his phone and delete photos of yourself as revenge porn sounds like a distinct possibility here.very best of luck

Anonymice1 · 07/10/2021 17:30

@Cocomarine probably, would just be interesting to hear his reply. Even if you knew it wouldn’t be the truth..

Gonnagetgoing · 07/10/2021 17:30

Jeez I only needed to read a few sentences I’m to see he’s googling how much you earn. Please run and get away from him ASAP. He sounds awful.

DeireadhFomhair · 07/10/2021 17:31

This all sounds shit, sorry you're going through this. My first thought was more red flags than China... I'm glad you're seeing the light.

mbosnz · 07/10/2021 17:31

When I said run - I didn't mean a gentle jog. How do you feel about doing a 4 minute mile?! Grin

Best way to get rid of him, is to pull his hooks out of you good and fast, with no further opportunity to get into your head, your home, and your bank balance.

beastlyslumber · 07/10/2021 17:32

Slow fade is a bad idea - it just gives him lots of time and therefore lots of opportunities to invade your life and harrass you.

Text him something quite neutral - a pp suggested "This isn't working for me" - something along those lines is perfect. Text him that. Then block.

Have someone stay with you for the night in case he decides to turn up. If he does turn up and won't go away, call the police.

I know it is scary OP. I can sense your fear and your wish to somehow neutralise the threat that he represents. But the only way to do it is to be very clear, very neutral, and just repeat your message (e.g. this isn't working for me) until he gives up. If you don't give him any opportunity to discuss, argue, plead, bully etc, it will be over much more quickly and easily. If he senses that there is doubt or hesitation, he will push and push and push until you're back at square one.

MzHz · 07/10/2021 17:33

He has to go!

He’s been aggressive

Future faked you

He’s up to no good, and he’s got an agenda

This is abusive cock lodger in the preparation phase.

Kick him to the kerb he took a cash back off your card. That’s stealing.

beastlyslumber · 07/10/2021 17:33

Don't bother trying to get hold of his phone to delete pics. They'll be in the cloud. It's a silly risk to take.