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New relationship - confused….

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Oneday975 · 03/10/2021 08:55

I started seeing someone a couple of months ago. Not a stranger - knew him about 15years ago but have had very little contact since. We did have a bit of a fling back then but it didn’t work out (both of us with other people - very bad I know and I’d never do that again as I still feel ashamed)
Our lives moved on I go remarried and had my dd who is now 14. He didn’t have children and had relationships with older women (10 and 20 years older) but never lived with them despite the last relationship being for 12 years. He said he wanted to but she didn’t. His ex wife was very needy but I found out that all changed after they split up. He claimed they’d never had sex but she had a baby with her next husband! He claims to have had feelings for me all the time during his other relationships even to the point of discussing it with a counsellor.
Anyway we get on well mostly but there are lots of strange things. First time we went out for dinner I made lots of effort with my outfit, hair, etc - no compliment from him and he even made a comment about cutting back on eating out because of the cost! He only wanted one course - I said I’d normally have 2.
Sex is good except he doesn’t do anything once he’s finished and sometimes virtually no foreplay.
He also seemed to have a bo issue and when I told him turns out he never wore deodorant. I cannot believe his last girlfriend could have put up with that!
He doesn’t remember if I have something going on , eg had a few appointments recently and he when I told him about something I might have counselling/ or tablets for he said I didn’t need either - just him around 😳
He also told me he loved me as he was driving off one day - I didn’t react and haven’t mentioned it since.
I enjoy cooking and love food and he made a comment a couple of weeks ago because in one day I’d been out for breakfast and then had dinner in the evening. I have no idea why that’s strange. He doesn’t seem to eat much so maybe that’s why.
He also lives like he’s quite poor but had a well paid job until recently. He says he left work to help his elderly father move house. Kind of him but seems quite over the top to leave work for it.
Anyway I’d just be interested in people’s thoughts on this . Maybe I’m thinking too much into everything.

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Lili132 · 05/10/2021 14:09

If you asked any woman on here to be honest and list all the negative qualities of their partner, they would be told to leave and raise their standards. You can't expect strangers to tell you anything about your relationship based on one post - which is all about flaws. And nobody has the whole context of the situations you posted about.
For example why exactly is he working part time? Is his new career a good option? Is he acting irresponsibly or has he got his priorities right? People on here will always assume the worst but its not how life works, life is not black and white and people are complex.

You're not going to get your answers here. You need to communicate with him about things that bother you and make up your own mind because only you know what to do.

Oneday975 · 05/10/2021 16:55

@Lili132 yes you do have a point. I’ve only listed the things I’m not happy with. He does have many qualities too but I’m always quick to notice any problems due to being so terribly let down in the past. Many relationships that I know of if one listed the other’s faults, they’d probably sound awful. I’m obviously far from perfect too.

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Oneday975 · 06/10/2021 17:28

So just when I was thinking maybe I wasn’t giving him a chance….
So yesterday I wasn’t feeling very well and told him when texting. Today he’s not even asked if I’m feeling any better… Am I just expecting too much?! I know I’d have checked up on him/anyone .

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 06/10/2021 17:39

@Oneday975

Isn't life too short for relationships like this, that are frankly just a bit rubbish, to take up your energy and headspace?

Bananalanacake · 06/10/2021 17:46

Take things slowly, don't let him move in with you.

Yutes · 06/10/2021 20:11

As said by pp up thread - you deserve someone that gives a monkeys enough to remember what is going on in your life and to ask how you’re doing. It’s called caring. And it is the bare minimum.

I really think you’re putting too much stake into trying to get something that’s not working, to work.

Oneday975 · 08/10/2021 15:11

Well he did ask how I was later that evening. However still so many things that don’t feel quite “right”. But I can’t seem to bring myself to end it yet.

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Oneday975 · 08/10/2021 15:12

@Bananalanacake absolutely no chance of that!!! Strange how his ex didn’t want that either even after many years of being together..

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Oneday975 · 08/10/2021 17:32

@DFOD I know, I’m normally really good with trusting my intuition now too.

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Oneday975 · 08/10/2021 17:35

@baileys6904 thanks. I think I know which are the red flags and hints of abusive behaviour to come. Can you ask you and others which you think are the signs of potential abuse too?

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Oneday975 · 08/10/2021 21:27

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Londonwriter · 09/10/2021 02:01

Are you sure that this guy doesn’t have ASD or similar? That would explain why he has some odd social traits.

I think you need to work out if he genuinely loves you, but doesn’t understand the socially-usual thing to do/say, or whether he is just an uncaring tool.

If you’re not on the same social wavelength (e.g. he has ASD and you don’t), you need to think whether he’s worth the effort of teaching - or whether it’s just going to bring you a lot of heartache and continued misunderstandings.

Oneday975 · 10/10/2021 14:56

@Londonwriter yes think he might have some asd traits. Was with someone in the parts with possible asd - it was very hard work and let to lots of issues.

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TheFoundations · 10/10/2021 15:15

[quote Oneday975]@baileys6904 thanks. I think I know which are the red flags and hints of abusive behaviour to come. Can you ask you and others which you think are the signs of potential abuse too?[/quote]
I think the most important thing is to pay attention to how you feel. Abuse feels bad. Even if you're conditioned to put up with it, it still feels bad. That's why cognitive dissonance is a feature of being an abuse victim. There is a list of red flag behaviours, yes (violence, insults, gaslighting), but it's dangerous to class it as conclusive.

As an example of why: A friend of mine was sexually abused as a child. Her abuser would pat her on the knee, in full view of others, to let her know it was 'time to go upstairs'. The pat on the knee was completely innocent looking. My friend, later in life, dated a lovely bloke, who, without knowing this, patted her on the knee. She asked him not to, but didn't want to go into detail about why. He said 'But it's nice to touch someone on the knee! I'm only being affectionate.' and he kept doing it. She left him for it, and so she should.

The point I'm making is that touching someone's knee isn't abusive, but in this instance, it was a sign that he was comfortable with over riding her boundaries. She responded to the fact that it didn't feel right to her, rather than looking at 'the red flag list', which wouldn't have flagged anything up for her.

Respond to things that don't feel right by telling the other person that what they did didn't feel right. If they don't respond with 'I'm sorry, I won't do that again if it bothers you', then create distance, because continuing with that behaviour is higher on their priority list than you feeling ok.

Oneday975 · 10/10/2021 15:29

@TheFoundations, thanks,yes I understand what you’re saying.
I meant which of this guy’s behaviours do otter think seem abusive?

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TheFoundations · 10/10/2021 15:38

[quote Oneday975]@TheFoundations, thanks,yes I understand what you’re saying.
I meant which of this guy’s behaviours do otter think seem abusive?[/quote]
Why does this matter to you? Your list of what's abusive won't be the same as others', apart from the widely accepted ones you can google:

www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/en/What-is-abuse

Looking for external validation is part of the victim mindset. Write down the list of his behaviours that feel abusive to you. What others think is neither here nor there.

WildfirePonie · 10/10/2021 15:52

Shouldn't be so complicated. Doesn't ask how you are, smells, only pleases himself during sex. I'd dump and move on. You deserve better OP!

And listen to your gut. Something is off about him and you can't put your finger on it.

Oneday975 · 10/10/2021 16:09

@WildfirePonie thanks. Lots of things don’t make sense but the pics of him and his ex looks so happy! He must have been doing something right. Even her daughter thought of him as a dad and loved him.

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TheFoundations · 10/10/2021 16:30

He was doing something right for her and he was doing something right then. And even then she didn't want him moving in.

Stop viewing this as who is doing it right and who is doing it wrong. There are no rules. He can be whoever he wants, and the rest of us have to choose whether to be around him or not. He's not responsible for that decision.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 10/10/2021 16:39

First time we went out for dinner I made lots of effort with my outfit, hair, etc - no compliment from him and he even made a comment about cutting back on eating out because of the cost! He only wanted one course - I said I’d normally have 2

You should have binned him after that! What a charmer 🙄

WildfirePonie · 10/10/2021 17:26

A picture doesn't tell the entire story. It's just a snapshot of a second in time.

Maybe she had wind and he captured her smiling ;-)

If the daughter didn't tell you herself that she thought of him as a dads then i'd call bullshit. He's just telling you what you want to hear!

lilmishap · 10/10/2021 17:33

Honestly sounds like he's full of shit

Oneday975 · 10/10/2021 17:44

@WildfirePonie if I hadn’t seen the evidence, I Roth’s the have believed it either! However the daughter’s actual dad hardly saw her

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Oneday975 · 10/10/2021 17:46

@Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel I know 🤦‍♀️
Can’t believe I saw him again after that - must have been the nostalgia/ excitement of seeing him again taking over

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Oneday975 · 10/10/2021 17:48

@WildfirePonie - should have said - wouldn’t have believed it…

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