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Is it going to end in tears?

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ItsGoingToEndInTears · 24/09/2021 20:40

NC. I'll try keep this brief and not drip feed.

Met X online in January - we're both 50. We had 3 Zoom dates and before we'd met in person he told me that he didn't see a romantic future but was interested in friendship if I was. All good for me, we were in lockdown anyway, I was happy to chat and that was that.

When we were allowed to, we started to meet for walks and we continued to communicate by email/whatsapp. All of his communications were very 'warm' and after we'd met twice in person I felt like he was sending mixed messages so reminded him of what he'd said originally and asked him what he actually wanted. He apologised for causing confusion, reiterated his position and said he would really like us to be friends but that was my decision to make. I liked him and enjoyed his company so told him that I was fine with this, no harm done and we carried on. I've always had close male friends so I was happy with this. For the next 4 months we met up regularly (every weekend) for walks and coffees, never more than a hug, lots of open communication and talking about everything and anything. I carried on with online dating and he was dealing with an ex who had resurfaced wanting to give it another go.

Then in June I had a health scare and he stepped up in a way I didn't anticipate or expect. He was concerned, ringing me daily to check on me, diarising my hospital appointments so that he could check on how they went and generally kind and thoughtful about being a listening ear. Then he went to Europe for the summer (home country) and was away for 2 months. I thought that him being away for so long so early on would mean that the friendship would fizzle but instead it strengthened, he rang several times a week, FaceTimed me to introduce me to family and friends and was generally attentive and available. Our friendship grew from strength to strength and we confided in each other about stuff that was going on. He shared his past relationship/commitment issues and told me that he was in therapy to deal with it. We both shared how much we were looking forward to catching up when he was back.

He got back this week and we met up the other night. It was amazing/awful. I felt like there was a huge amount of sexual tension and I'm so disappointed. Several times in the evening he did that thing where he held eye contact for longer than necessary and at one point he held it for so long I had to look away and felt really uncomfortable. But it surfaced strong feelings that I don't want and I now can't get him out of my head and don't know what to do. I want to have him as a friend - I don't want to being his next casualty (he has a string of failed relationships behind him). What doesn't help is that he's also very attractive. For the first time since we met I felt awkward in his company and I don't know what to do about it. I know he doesn't want more than friendship, and I also know that he really values our friendship and wouldn't want to do anything to jeopardise it. I'm tempted to talk to him about the other night - we communicate very well and to-date no topic has been off limits - but I'm worried about making things awkward if I imagined the 'frisson' and he didn't feel it. Help! What would you do? We're meeting up again on Sunday.

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SleepingBunnies21 · 25/09/2021 21:26

*attracted, obviously

ItsGoingToEndInTears · 25/09/2021 21:30

@SleepingBunnies21

Maybe he's in denial.

Has relationships with women but never let's them progress.

On dating sites for women but tells them he wants to be friends only quite quickly. (Most heterosexual men I know don't even bother pursuing friendships with women in that context. They're on to date, get into a relationship, have sex etc. And if that ain't happening for whatever reason they don't "waste" time forging friendships with the women).

He has tonnes of female friends.

He's not the hook up type...(not many men aren't the hook up type if a woman they're attacked to offers the opportunity) I now have a different perspective on that.

I think if he is gay, I'm inclined to think that he is in denial and it isn't something he's acted on to-date.
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SleepingBunnies21 · 25/09/2021 21:40

What people get up to in their personal time & space, youd just never know.

I know it could be career related but it also typical of gay men to relocate from their small, rural home towns/villages to cities. Even if employment opportunities exist there, they feel they cannot love their life as they need to in that context.

Well ... he's unavailable no matter what the issue, if you can wean yourself off him abd friend zone him, perhaps he's worth a friendship if you can't....

SleepingBunnies21 · 25/09/2021 21:41

Sorry, lost an important comma there.

SleepingBunnies21 · 25/09/2021 21:43

Also i wouldn't take it hard, or anyway, aboit a man who's never so much as lived with a woman or had a real LTR by 50 friend zoning you ..... you're in good company by the sounds of it, it's his MO.

CorvusPurpureus · 25/09/2021 22:05

He's quite explicitly said he doesn't see you as a romantic partner, whereas you definitely have a thundering great crush on him!

You need to pursue other romantic opportunities & fade him out a bit. It's possible that in 6 months time you'll be happily dating someone & Mr Flakey But Intense Eyes will be a mate you occasionally hang out with.

I suspect it won't play out quite like that, & either he'll vanish, or he will get grumpy about you seeing other people.

Either way, he's told you clearly that he doesn't want a relationship with you. So that's that sorted, really.

You were OLDing in the first place to find a partner. It's obviously not going to be this guy, so onwards & upwards.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 25/09/2021 22:06

He's compartmentalised you and if you aren't on the same page as him, you need to walk away for your sanity and to avoid getting hurt further.

AnaViaSalamanca · 25/09/2021 22:47

@ItsGoingToEndInTears gay is one possibility. He could also be into drug and alcohol fuelled encounters with strangers, or just emotionally unavailable, or many other reasons. Base fact is, he doesn’t want anything with you. That should be reason enough.

In the kindest possible way, you have to admit to yourself that you are very invested in him. You are giving him way too much headspace. You need to detach yourself from him rather than watching for more signs and analysing why he is the way he is.

Also, you have known him for less than a year and that through OLD. You can’t possibly know what he gets up to in his private time. Or what he has lied about. If you don’t know about his escapades, doesn’t mean there is none.

Zerrin13 · 25/09/2021 22:52

Introducing you to his family on Facetime is most probably a ruse. They will be delighted to believe he has a girlfriend if being gay is totally forbidden where he comes from. Whatever his reasons are, he isn't interested in a romantic relationship with you. He most probably enjoys knowing you would love more from him.

Navian · 26/09/2021 23:06

Sorry but I stopped reading as "mixed messages". This is all you need to know. He will continue with mixed messages because he's not bothered about anyone but himself.

Cherrysoup · 26/09/2021 23:18

Interestingly he made a big thing of introducing me to his mother, brother and best friend over FaceTime.

Really, really odd thing to do for a friend ‘only’. Way OTT.

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