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I HATE my family

55 replies

PearlyRising · 03/09/2021 17:29

I know that's a shocking thing to say but my mother glossed over hurting me a year and a half ago and has not acknowledged that she hurt me one in that time but has got my brother and father on her side. They're telling me I HURT HER. And I cannot reason with them. Just had a slanging match with my brother, he was supposedly the logical one but he cannot grasp the unfairness of the situation. She hurt me and that's dismissed by her/them as a grudge and yet the hurt I caused her, telling her that she hurt me, that's taken oh so so so seriously and affected her health.

I have tried so hard to let it go and I can't. I hate them. I hate them.

So so so furious. I know i sound like a toddler but I cannot deal with this illogical bullshit.

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bamboocat · 03/09/2021 17:32
Flowers Would it help to tell us what happened?
PearlyRising · 03/09/2021 17:52

35 + years of labelling me paranoid, and then, if I objected to that I was ''sensitive'' and then if I tried to put my foot down I was difficult and emotional. Well, 18 months ago, my mother glossed over the fact that I've always been labelled paranoid, as though it bored her. ''Move on'' she instructed me. Even though it has never been acknowledged. There has been no apology. No acknowledgement. Not even a tentative, ''we really shouldn't have called you paranoid so casually''.
So when my mother glossed over the decades of gaslighting me with such a bored wave of her hand, I told her that she hurt me! Well, she went all silent on me. Totally stonewalled me. And when I tried to push a conversation, she told me i was shouting at her. I never shouted at her unless it was preceded by 8 or 9 months of not being heard.

And my father!? he is my mother's foot soldier. He went to a psychiatric hospital a few times in my teens, with paranoid delusions, so the fucking injustice of being labelled paranoid makes me want to RAGE! i asked him last christmas ''how is it that you went to a psychiatric hospital with paranoia and yet i'm the one that emerges with the label of paranoia?'' and he just looked back at me like a zombie. Glass eyes. And then he went home and ''told on me''. Told my mother i was shouting and ranting.

And my mother texted to say ''what is wrong with you that you would hurt your father like that??'' missing the irony that she has no problem at all hurting me and considers my reaction to being hurt the problem.

My father would never ever say to my mother ''so, all she said was that you hurt her??'' he just throws me under a bus and they all sit around talking about how angry I am. How I shout at them.

My brother, the so called logical rational one just sees everything through my mum's eyes but TOTALLY DENIES that and when i try to point out the unfairness of mum dismissing the hurt they caused me over decades to a mere ''grudge'' but guilt tripping me with the hurt I caused her by telling her she hurt me Confused THAT was serious and made her sick.

These people act so sane and calm but they are so repressed. Everything is superficially OK. They go to church. They smile and wave and nod and talk about the weather. Stalwarts of the parish.

And totally eroding me.

I don't want to not have a family but omg, they are trying to erode me for their convenience. Why can they not just say ''yeh, 35+ years of calling you paranoid, not our proudest parenting moment''. But no. There has been not one single solitary acknowledgement that this was less than ideal.

And they have LIED to my brother because he seems to believe that they have tried to make amends. They have stonewalled me for 18 months. If they spoke to me at all it was small talk or to guilt trip me.

I never wanted to lose my brother over this but if he cannot understand that all I did was tell them that they hurt me then I am going to lose my only sibling.

It's so depressing to look at your family and see this shitty bunch of people with rigid defences and distorted views and egos so inflated they cannot even admit they hurt you.

They're so fucking crap and the torture of it is, I still sort of love them.

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tobedtoMNandfart · 03/09/2021 18:04

They are incapable of acknowledging your emotions. I suspect you were raised to suppress them / pander to others.
I'm afraid they won't change but yes it is extremely hurtful.
I went NC with mine and had therapy. I can tell you that the pain does subside over time.
You are allowed to choose the correct course of action to safeguard your own health & wellbeing.

PearlyRising · 03/09/2021 18:06

I was raised to have no emotions, no needs, and most damagingly at all to doubt my own perspective and to feel that my own perspective was an act of aggression.

I never wanted to go NC but they just keeeeeeeeep showing me that they do not care.

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PearlyRising · 03/09/2021 18:08

@tobedtoMNandfart

They are incapable of acknowledging your emotions. I suspect you were raised to suppress them / pander to others. I'm afraid they won't change but yes it is extremely hurtful. I went NC with mine and had therapy. I can tell you that the pain does subside over time. You are allowed to choose the correct course of action to safeguard your own health & wellbeing.
Can I ask, did you lose your siblings too?

Or did they get it?

Or like my blind brother did they see it all through your parents' lens?

That's what really hurts. That I come out of their dysfunctional bullshit without a sibling. My mum's defenses are so rigid, she would die before she ever said sorry and my Dad is the weak foot soldier who has enabled that.

But my brother?! I thought he was intelligent. He is not. He is a puppet.

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SilverOtter · 03/09/2021 18:10

I'm sorry you're in this situation. It's so painful isn't it? I had to give up and go NC with my dad a couple years back. He was my hero during childhood, then gradually as I became an adult I got to see how self-serving and calculating he actually is. It's broken my heart, but I think if your family are treating you so badly then you may have to go NC (or maybe very LC) for your own self respect.

Enough4me · 03/09/2021 18:14

Try LC and if that isn't enough go NC. You are an adult, they are adults, therefore you can separate.

If they try to make you feel responsible for them - don't, they're adults.

If they say they need more contact with you to make sure you're ok - don't, you're an adult.

coffeeisthebest · 03/09/2021 18:55

I read a quote yesterday that was something along the lines of: The truth will set you free. It will make you very angry first but ultimately it will set you free'. I think you need to go to therapy with this, your anger needs to be heard and your family will never hear it. I'm so sorry. You need to find someone who will.

SilverOtter · 03/09/2021 19:12

@coffeeisthebest

I read a quote yesterday that was something along the lines of: The truth will set you free. It will make you very angry first but ultimately it will set you free'. I think you need to go to therapy with this, your anger needs to be heard and your family will never hear it. I'm so sorry. You need to find someone who will.
Gosh this is so true! It's like going through grieving in a way💔
tobedtoMNandfart · 03/09/2021 22:42

@PearlyRising I didn't lose my brother but we do have a strange relationship as we were pitted against each other as children.

There's a great deal of wider family that I don't see though.

PearlyRising · 03/09/2021 22:50

I've been having therapy for the last 18 months and I'm feeling ok, strong, content, secure, but then as soon as I talk to my family and once again they make it clear that they think I'm craaaaazy for having reacted to their hurting me, then I lose it.

I need to go v lc. I just can't keep on hoping that they'll magically have an epiphany. It wont happy. They are who they are and the people I wish they were, they only exist in my head.

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Enough4me · 04/09/2021 01:24

I hope you go v LC and find a sense of peace in life.

Twisted family can create a lots of frustration, which comes out as anger, but really it's pent up pain.

PearlyRising · 04/09/2021 06:12

Thank you yes it is pain.

Pain they've caused.
In several layers.
Originally.
Glossing over it.
Getting angry with me for being hurt.
Mobbing me out of the family.

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romdowa · 04/09/2021 06:16

Sounds like my family. Narcissist mother , enabler father and golden child sibling. You will never win with these people, ever. Either consider going no contact or look up the grey rock method. You need to protect yourself from these people , they will not protect you.

PearlyRising · 04/09/2021 06:42

I keep trying to get them to acknowledge that they hurt me and they "cant cope: with thst behaviour.
My mum is dying. So she is the biggest martyr no matter how much pain she is causing.

I just have to accept that she wont admit she hurt me before she dies.

I have to GIVE UP.
Ive said that before but then ive tried to push a conversation.

But rationally, there is no evidence that they will ever acknowledge that they hurt me and not the other way around.

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HangingChads · 04/09/2021 07:42

In a similar situation it helped me to think of it as me being free from their expectations/mess, rather than me giving up on it. I try to accept they will never be the family I want them to be so I just appreciate the nice bits and try to remain free of the negative bits. It's very hard. Lowering contact helped, as does remembering that my mum will never see or accept my perspective.

PearlyRising · 04/09/2021 07:50

I know. I just need to be able to stick to my own decision.
Rationally I know that they have treated me very badly and that their defenses are so rigid that they will never put down their shields and get it.
But for some reason I keep hoping that they'll have an epiphany.

Nope. It isn't happening because they're not emotionally aware enough to realise that they suppress all of their emotions. So mine repulse them. They are literally repulsed by any emotion that isn't a grateful, serene smile.

I am not sensitive at work, sensitive with acquaintances, sensitive with my friends............. I am not taking things that aren't about me and making them about me. eg, i have a relative in the extended family who gave/gives (not sure) me the silent treatment while love bombing all others around us and I know that that is about her and her insecurities and her false persona and her need to be in the group at all costs, even the cost to her ''integrity''. So I know I'm not sensitive.

If they weren't in my life I'd just go to work, deal with customers and colleagues calmly, come home, catch up with friends, deal with my life and my teenagers and I wouldn't be losing my shit like this.

It's because they are gaslighting me and I won't have it any more.

So I have to cut them out.

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PearlyRising · 04/09/2021 07:52

''I am free from their expectation that I must be ''ok'' with them hurting me'' Repeat, repeat, repeat. Thank you @HangingChads

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PearlyRising · 04/09/2021 07:54

About 18 months ago I said to them, I cannot participate in a dynamic where you need me to be hurt in order for you not to be hurt. And they rolled their eyes and tskd and sighed and shook their heads.

As though I were craaaaaaaaazy.

But my interpretation of the dynamic was spot on and I should have trusted my gut.

I'm 51 now and I've become a much stronger person dealing with everything else and everybody else in my life since I recognised the family dysfunction.

But I keep going back to the vomit hoping the vomit will have had an epiphany.

Wow. Why do I expect that???????

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Shehasadiamondinthesky · 04/09/2021 08:10

I used to be like this OP tying myself in knots over my family and getting myself in a right state about the injustice of it all.
Then I realised that the only person I was hurting was me and if I didn't do something I'd go mad.
I moved away and now have absolute minimal contact with any of them for my own sanity and life is so much better now, I can breathe again.
Psychotherapy to work through the hurt helped too.

Theunamedcat · 04/09/2021 08:17

Yeah stop talking to the lot of them including your brother he is just as bad participation is the same as doing the damage in the first place they will try getting people involved telling stories about how mean you are ignore it all

THisbackwithavengeance · 04/09/2021 08:23

It sounds like a lot of drama over nothing.

She called you paranoid? You do sound very, very sensitive. Not a criticism, merely an observation.

You think she should apologise. Why do you need her to? What difference would it make if she did at this stage? She called you 'paranoid'. She didn't steal your husband or murder your children. It was just a gentle criticism, not really anything that would require a big scene apology.

I was originally going to say don't bother seeing them if it stresses you out that much but you said she's dying. If I were you, I would put it behind me and go and see her and make it up with her. Because when all's said and done this is your mum and you may regret going NC after she passes and there will be literally nothing you can do to change that.

Doubledoorsontogarden · 04/09/2021 08:30

Op you are not going to get them to say to you what you do desperately want to hear. It’s not going to happen, rage at the injustice of that but then put it behind you.

You need to find peace. You are 51, don’t let this rage define who are you today, speak to a counsellor. This is taking so much of your headspace that you will be missing on other things that life has to offer you

Trisolaris · 04/09/2021 08:34

Have you been on the Stately homes thread? Might be worth joining and talking to some of the people on there with similar experiences.

lupinlass · 04/09/2021 08:37

Thisback - I think you've spectacularly missed the point! 'Gently' pointed out she's paranoid. Once?

I think you should read the OP again love

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