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Was your family similar to this? Am I being a middle class self indulgent brat?

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Strugglingdj · 21/08/2021 10:54

I posted before a couple of years ago on this. Still making sense of it. I started therapy recently and finding it hard. I had such a nice childhood with a great school, parents present for sports days and parents evenings etc. Had plenty of gifts and good food and warm home. Car when I was 17. Money for a house. I’m bruised by how broken I was though.

Are these things more common than my therapist tells me?

My dad used to drag me around by the hair if I didn’t got to bed. I mentioned it many years later and he said well what would you do with a child who wouldn’t sleep. I remember clumps of my hair all over the stairs. I would get into bed feeling hurt all over, nothing drastic or life threatening, but aching all over.

Both parents would make comments to me like I was an attention seeker, I was dramatic, I was a little hitler, I was a pain, I was a nightmare to bring up, was I the devil they would ask me often… they’d say why wasn’t I like Claire at school, why couldn’t I be like a normal child and read magazines, why wasn’t I more like my sister. I would often hear them talking to other family members about me and saying how awful I was and how difficult things had been for them. I’m not sure if they knew I could hear but I spent much of my childhood very confused.

I don’t think I was a bad child. I was very anxious but I worked hard at school, I was polite to adults and really rather quiet and reserved. I didn’t drink in my teens or smoke or get involved in anything I shouldn’t. My worst trait was that I was anxious I think and a very insecure child.

I remember at primary school I would wait for my teacher to arrive in the hallway and run to give her a hug. Every day. I told a friend I loved her more than I loved my mum. I was only 5 and I look back on it now and wonder why I felt so desperately that I needed to have that connection. What was I missing at home. This theme continued into my teens when I spent nearly every night with a neighbour who was 20 years older than my mum and we’d walk her dog and talk about things together. I felt respected around her. I clung to her for many years and my parents often mocked me that I was having an affair with her Hmm I wasn’t. They were obviously hurting and jealous perhaps that I used to do this. I guess it was company for my neighbour too so she was quite happy for me to tag along to walks and call in for a tea.

At uni holidays my parents would expect that I would be back with them and tell me they wanted me to go back but then simultaneously say they were dreading it and I was a guest in their house it wasn’t my home and I should be respectful. I had no privacy and when I went out for work often my room would have been cleaned and tidied within an inch and all my things moved including diaries and private work I was doing. I wasn’t allowed to use the washing machine but at the same time was told I was lazy and never cleaned…I wasn’t allowed to cook and if I did it would cause arguments as the kitchen would become messy with the cooking. I didn’t know how to cook for many many years after I left. I was often given money and told to go out to eat instead. My mum would cook most nights but if I said I was allergic to something or didn’t want to drink wine then I would be mocked and told if I didn’t like it then leave. I’d ask for example not to have gravy as there was wine in it and they’d lie and say there wasn’t…all sounds petty and middle class but I felt so disrespected, like a nobody with no ability to make my own decisions. If I ate particular food in the fridge my dad would go mad saying that was for him and it was expensive etc (they had money so not sure why cost was an issue). There was always food to eat but I just had to eat what wasn’t for them. I would then start to use my own money to buy bits and pieces I wanted to eat and was told that I was taking up room in their fridge and that wasn’t acceptable.

I have no idea who I am really, even now. Not sure why I am posting maybe to gauge whether this is more common than I think and maybe I am being dramatic and self indulgent in thinking about this all this time later.

OP posts:
flapjackfairy · 22/08/2021 17:33

I have benefitted from hearing others experiences on this thread so thank you to all who have shared.
@LoveMySituation so sorry you have endured so much and continue to do so. I understand completely the fear of men you speak of. Just the noise of men drinking and having a laugh in a neighbours garden panics me and i also identify with @Pearlys fear of stepping outside the comfort zone. I feel my confidence has never really recovered from a couple of incidences that occurred when I was a young girl
I frequently feel.inferior to any and everyone and have always felt a failure and not quite good enough . Sad but true. My mother would be devastated if she knew I felt that way.
I feel guilty just typing this because my parents would say they did their best for us as children and I get that they were victims of their own childhoods so I try to forgive and let it go but by God it still stings sometimes.

LoveMySituation · 22/08/2021 21:38

@flapjackfairy I understand what you mean about feeling inferior and confidence not having recovered, and I certainly feel a failure often too Flowers

candlelightsatdawn · 23/08/2021 00:26

You need to visit the stately homes thread. Give it a search. I literally was told my childhood was lovely I went to stately homes, and days out and had a lovely childhood if basically basically ignoring the emotional and sexual abuse I faced as a child. Really confused me for many many years. Kindness mixed with absolute cruelty is harder to spot when it's dressed up in middle class fluff.

Turns out this is a actually a thing, such a thing and other people have started a thread about it. It's a safe space. Go find it. Honestly your not alone.

Not all monsters are purely capable of just cruelty.

coffeeisthebest · 23/08/2021 10:42

[quote PearlyBird]@greycats, same, i was so passive too. Life happened to me. I never dared risk anything. Stayed small. Stayed safe. My parents created that fearfulness in me, but somehow, with that fear, i was expected to go out in to the world and be brave and confident!!! Get a great job. Marry a great man. That didnt happen. Although im ok now. Single parent to teenagers but we are ok. And self aware, thank goodness, so my own dc and i have real connections. We're not just playing our roles.

I tried to give my mum a letter a while ago, to explain why i felt how i do. (Not that i havent told her clearly already!!) But she wouldnt take it. I got upset and tried to push it on to her. It fell to the floor. She was glancing about nervously to see if any neighbours had seen.

That's when I realised. She cares more what the neighbours think than she cares what her only daughter feels.

Madness imo. But she still sees herself as the victim of me. Im the bad person. As @rosabug said upthread, some people's thinking is just so rigid. They are right. They are good. And those around them are in therapy hoping, hoping to heal.[/quote]
I had the exact same message as you. Stay safe and small but yet go out into the world and be confident and strong. What a joke.

Firingpingpongs · 23/08/2021 11:01

Childhood Emotional Neglect (CEN) google it. Your parents' behaviour is far from normal. I'm sorry you had to go through this. I recently went to counselling for similar but nowhere near as awful as yours sounds. No amount of money or 'providing' can replace basic care, love and attention and you don't need money to provide it. Flowers

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