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Husband and His Children

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reen80 · 17/08/2021 11:47

Hi all, first time poster...

So I suppose this isn't really just about my husband and his children but a few other things too.

Background; I met my husband 9 years ago. We briefly dated and I discovered he told me he was in an awful marriage with two children. I was shocked. It wasn't really something I wanted to get involved in. I was single, successful and didnt want drama. He told me he loved me, asked if I would wait, and tbh I had fallen in love. Over the next three years whilst he separated we were on/off. His mother had passed away just before I met and him and his father was ill. He kept telling me he wasn't in the right state of mind, but I also could not let go and move on. Sometimes he would end it and sometimes I would end it as I did not want to be the other woman. He would come into my life, be with me then disappear saying he was going through alot. I also then used to call him asking for explanations, trying to understand what i meant to him

I finally decided enough was enough. A month after, around 2015 he called me out the blue and told me his father had passed away and he didn't know who else to tell. (he has no family except a brother). I immediately rushed to be by his side. By this time his divorce proceedings had also started. over the next 6 months I supported his grieving process. I also stated that I didn't want to see him if this was not a long-term thing. He agreed and although he said he was scared of being in a nasty relationship again he wanted to try. for the following 3 years I supported his divorce process, grief, and custody battle. he would come and stay with me 3-4 at least times a week, I'd support his legal costs, make sure he was fed/watered. he had no money and so we hardly did anything that a normal dating couple would do.

The divorce was long and nasty. Aroung 2017-2018 he bang seeing his children again. She dictated that he could see them on Thurs-Sun one weekend and Fri-Sun the following week. So he basically had them every single weekend. She would not agree to another schedule. So that was tough for me, as I was mostly a spare wheel. When the divorce was finalised he paid her.. Bt he had not money so he remortgaged his house, I lent him money and the only way he could remortagage and raise the money is I went in with him. So i moved to his house and started paying all the bills. And for around 8 months from then we had the kids most weekends. He didn't tell them I was his GF. they were good kids, but quiet. Ignored me most of the time. I'd build up a relationshop over the weekend and then it was back to square one the next. They ate awful food (pizza, chicken nuggets, chips) and they were never fed proper balanced diet at home. She would drop that a school club in the AM and pick them up from after school club, and in the weekends they were with us. My husband is very soft with his kids, so he just ran around after then and never sai eat this/do this. I tried my hardest to make balanced meals where they would just cry or moan (even the 11 year old). If I so much as raised my voice my partner would argue with me 'Saying they're just kids' he was rose-tinted for them.

We had some vacations coming up and I asked him to rearrange the schedule with his ex so we could go away. I had always asked him to try and change the dates so that he would have them every other weekend and during the week. As all of this was unfair for me. We had had NO real relationship of dating and doing this together for years because of all this.

He changed the schedule for those 2 weeks. Afterwhich he came back and said he couldn't see the children. he sai is mental state was not right, his business had gone bust, his relationship with his brother had gone sour and he couldn't cope. He stopped seeing them. For 2 years... (2018-2021)

In the two year period I asked him numerous times to see his kids (at least a dozen) he gave me the same reason. He was also angry with them as they did not return calls etc. During hat time we married, travelled a lot of the world, and for the last 1-2 years have planned to sell our house and move a few hours away to buy country house which we dreamed of. again during these two years he found a job but I have supported him through alegal case with his brother. I'll mention again I have said to him, see the kids, sort it out, and he just used to get upset and said he couldn't, it hurt him inside, they would understand when they were older (his ex wife really F-ed him over).

We sold the house, we viewed a few places a few hours away. And now all of a sudden after 1-2 years of dreaming of this and agreeing he says he wats to stay within 30 mins of the kids because then he will never ever see them. I was gob smacked.

He went on to say he hadn't seen the kids for two years because of me, because when we saw them we argued. He said how would you feel if i said to you don't see your kids every weekend. He went on to say, have you ever asked how/why i am going to see the kids if we move (even though it was his idea). When i told him, I asked him numerous times (about a dozen) to see his kids - he responded.... I ask about your mum every day and you ask about my kids 10 times! I am not sure how they are relevant as he himself hadn't see his kids.
He's gone onto say he needs ot be around here.... He blames me for not seeing them, he went on to say that he was willing for us to split up if I wanted to move that far as he needs to be with his kids. he needs to make up for lost time.

Our house is sold, the reason we said we would sell is to move to a better place. Now I am being shoe horned into a situation where we have to rent for a while (which we knew we would have to do), but then fundamentally re-purchase somewhere within 30 minutes of where we are. Which would mean we cannot get the kind of property we wanted.

I just feel so angry and frustrated. Its been a week since we had this, yet I have not seen him make an effort to see his kids that he all of a sudden realised he has. For almost 2 years we were planning our life and now I feel I am just going backwards.

Thoughts and opinions welcome..... Am I being horrible? I just feel so undervalued, underappreciates, and kind of stuck, and hurt that I have been blamed for this

OP posts:
Marmelace · 17/08/2021 11:54

Honestly first thing to spring to mind, is he is doing to you what he did to his wife. I think he has used you when needed.

IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves · 17/08/2021 11:58

I think he's had a lot of money off you, that's what I think.

merryhouse · 17/08/2021 11:58

Oof.

Have you heard of the Sunk Costs Fallacy? You don't want to leave because you've put so much effort (and money!) in and it would be such a waste... so you carry on putting in effort and money even though it's still a waste.

Seriously: leave your lazy, feckless, cheating husband (I know, he hasn't cheated on you yet). Start divorce proceedings. The good news is that now you've sold the house you're not tied together financially, and with any luck you won't have to give him much now he has a job.

Its not going to get better. It will probably get worse.

Justcallmebebes · 17/08/2021 12:00

All I can say is be very careful what you wish for. You got your man and now you can sit back and reap what you sow

He's a loser and a dead beat dad. What a prize. Well done you

SuperCaliFragalistic · 17/08/2021 12:02

What a catch

Motnight · 17/08/2021 12:07

His actions have told you who he is. Are you happy with that?

edwinbear · 17/08/2021 12:08

But he was seeing his children, maybe not on a schedule that suited you, but he was. Then you tried to interfere by getting him to amend his contact days meaning he didn't see them for 2 years. Those poor children, they are the only ones I feel sorry for here.

MrsExpo · 17/08/2021 12:14

Dump this awful user and get out of it now. You've sold the house, so you're in a position to go your own way .... grab the opportunity with both hands and don't look back.

Sampafie · 17/08/2021 12:18

How is this even reality? Also I hope your bar for alleged professional success isnt as low as it is for men, because this whole story has been one big mess. Cant imagine any successful woman going along with the BS he spun you

Walkingalot · 17/08/2021 12:25

I agree with merryhouse. You've been used financially and now he's blaming you for not seeing his kids! You need to have a serious think about your future and whether you are prepared to continue to live your life on his terms.

litterbird · 17/08/2021 12:31

Goodness me what have you done? You have given this man everything including your soul. What a loser he is. Why did you make it so easy for him? Giving him money, your shoulder to cry on all your energy and time for what? Its shocking. He has kids, if he wants to see them 100% of the time he can. He was scheduled to see them each weekend, you had your other time during the week to be together. You should have kept to that. Children grow up eventually and have lives to themselves. You could have embraced this time and worked towards a happy blended family. If I were you I would exit this relationship pretty quickly and move on.

DelphiniumBlue · 17/08/2021 12:31

Why did you marry a man who has had 2 periods of no contact with his children? Obviously a man who does this is a complete waste of space.
I've had lots of professional experience of men not seeing their children, and it's always because they will not bend, it has to be on their terms. They would rather not see their children than compromise ,they consider their own feelings to trump everyone else's. This guy is blaming both his Ex and you for his own choices. Whilst being happy for you to sub him financially for years. He sounds awful. Best to take this opportunity to move on.

ODPO · 17/08/2021 12:36

I'd be off. Far too much nonsense

Muchmorethan · 17/08/2021 12:42

Good grief... he saw you coming!! Love to know the ex-wife's version...

HappyWipings · 17/08/2021 12:43

He's a loser op. Don't waste any more time or money on him.

Also , stop talking like his exw is at fault. Put yourself in her shoes , that should be easy to do considering your situation.

reen80 · 17/08/2021 12:54

I should add... In the last 1 year when he has got over his lost business, he has been working day and all nights, and has given most of what he earns to me (approx on average £2000 a month). It could be £500 on month, or £2500. I manage all the household finances because he is rubbish with money. He doesn't spend it on anything else. He does pay CM.

OP posts:
Goldbar · 17/08/2021 12:55

I agree with @merryhouse. Was just about to say sunk costs fallacy myself.

The thing is...you've invested so much money and so many years in him that it's going to be difficult to walk away. But based on what you've said, it's been all drama and sacrifices for you and he's not even a very nice person. You could have a very rosy future in a new house without him. Look forward, not backwards.

I feel so sorry for his children.

ODPO · 17/08/2021 12:56

The money wouldn't tempt me I'm afraid

Are you happy op? Life's too short to live I miserable life. It doesn't sound like he's ever going to change. And unfortunately I'd be very judgemental about why a parent hasn't seen their dc for a couple of years. There would have to be something very serious for me to think that's ok

Sakurami · 17/08/2021 13:15

Christ op. You need to get out and find a man who values you and also caters to your needs. One thing is to accommodate step children but to have your whole life ruled by the whims of these 2 adults is awful. It isn't fair that they should have them every weekend and there should have been a more equal split.

However, regarding food, many 11 year olds are super fussy so in future I wouldn't meddle in that.

What about you? Did/do you want kids? What's stopping you from leaving?

FranklySonImTheGaffer · 17/08/2021 13:25

You've essentially bankrolled a man while he got divorced and abandoned his kids. He's not a keeper OP, he's a feckless user.

The only plus side to this is that you've sold your house already so the money is there. Divide the money, divorce him and buy somewhere on your own.

Oh and don't discuss his kids with him again. He's always going to blame you but unless you physically stopped him contacting them, it's a choice he made (and FFS who really gets annoyed when kids you don't see choose not to return calls and relies on them understanding why you fucked off when they're older)?

Theunamedcat · 17/08/2021 13:30

You asked for a holiday he took one for two years and this is your fault?

Is his cock golden? because I cannot think of a reason why you have put up with this

HollowTalk · 17/08/2021 13:33

You have given everything you have to a selfish cheat. I just can't understand why you did any of that - giving him money, moving into his house, putting up with all his crap about the children. All I can say now is that you need to get away from him and try to restore your own life.

Suprima · 17/08/2021 13:34

You were the other woman though.

And regarding all this stuff about his ex and his ‘nasty relationship’, he’ll saying all of this about you when it’s over.

Don’t invest any more time or cash in this absolute loser.

starskey80 · 17/08/2021 13:40

Wow. What a loser!!!

I'd feel sorry for you except for the fact you sat back and let him gaslight his wife to cheat with you for years.

Reap what you sow, and all that.

Only ones i feel sorry for are the kids, poor things.

Sally872 · 17/08/2021 13:40

Leave. You deserve much better. He is selfish and ungrateful. He is rewriting history to suit himself.

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