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Husband and His Children

91 replies

reen80 · 17/08/2021 11:47

Hi all, first time poster...

So I suppose this isn't really just about my husband and his children but a few other things too.

Background; I met my husband 9 years ago. We briefly dated and I discovered he told me he was in an awful marriage with two children. I was shocked. It wasn't really something I wanted to get involved in. I was single, successful and didnt want drama. He told me he loved me, asked if I would wait, and tbh I had fallen in love. Over the next three years whilst he separated we were on/off. His mother had passed away just before I met and him and his father was ill. He kept telling me he wasn't in the right state of mind, but I also could not let go and move on. Sometimes he would end it and sometimes I would end it as I did not want to be the other woman. He would come into my life, be with me then disappear saying he was going through alot. I also then used to call him asking for explanations, trying to understand what i meant to him

I finally decided enough was enough. A month after, around 2015 he called me out the blue and told me his father had passed away and he didn't know who else to tell. (he has no family except a brother). I immediately rushed to be by his side. By this time his divorce proceedings had also started. over the next 6 months I supported his grieving process. I also stated that I didn't want to see him if this was not a long-term thing. He agreed and although he said he was scared of being in a nasty relationship again he wanted to try. for the following 3 years I supported his divorce process, grief, and custody battle. he would come and stay with me 3-4 at least times a week, I'd support his legal costs, make sure he was fed/watered. he had no money and so we hardly did anything that a normal dating couple would do.

The divorce was long and nasty. Aroung 2017-2018 he bang seeing his children again. She dictated that he could see them on Thurs-Sun one weekend and Fri-Sun the following week. So he basically had them every single weekend. She would not agree to another schedule. So that was tough for me, as I was mostly a spare wheel. When the divorce was finalised he paid her.. Bt he had not money so he remortgaged his house, I lent him money and the only way he could remortagage and raise the money is I went in with him. So i moved to his house and started paying all the bills. And for around 8 months from then we had the kids most weekends. He didn't tell them I was his GF. they were good kids, but quiet. Ignored me most of the time. I'd build up a relationshop over the weekend and then it was back to square one the next. They ate awful food (pizza, chicken nuggets, chips) and they were never fed proper balanced diet at home. She would drop that a school club in the AM and pick them up from after school club, and in the weekends they were with us. My husband is very soft with his kids, so he just ran around after then and never sai eat this/do this. I tried my hardest to make balanced meals where they would just cry or moan (even the 11 year old). If I so much as raised my voice my partner would argue with me 'Saying they're just kids' he was rose-tinted for them.

We had some vacations coming up and I asked him to rearrange the schedule with his ex so we could go away. I had always asked him to try and change the dates so that he would have them every other weekend and during the week. As all of this was unfair for me. We had had NO real relationship of dating and doing this together for years because of all this.

He changed the schedule for those 2 weeks. Afterwhich he came back and said he couldn't see the children. he sai is mental state was not right, his business had gone bust, his relationship with his brother had gone sour and he couldn't cope. He stopped seeing them. For 2 years... (2018-2021)

In the two year period I asked him numerous times to see his kids (at least a dozen) he gave me the same reason. He was also angry with them as they did not return calls etc. During hat time we married, travelled a lot of the world, and for the last 1-2 years have planned to sell our house and move a few hours away to buy country house which we dreamed of. again during these two years he found a job but I have supported him through alegal case with his brother. I'll mention again I have said to him, see the kids, sort it out, and he just used to get upset and said he couldn't, it hurt him inside, they would understand when they were older (his ex wife really F-ed him over).

We sold the house, we viewed a few places a few hours away. And now all of a sudden after 1-2 years of dreaming of this and agreeing he says he wats to stay within 30 mins of the kids because then he will never ever see them. I was gob smacked.

He went on to say he hadn't seen the kids for two years because of me, because when we saw them we argued. He said how would you feel if i said to you don't see your kids every weekend. He went on to say, have you ever asked how/why i am going to see the kids if we move (even though it was his idea). When i told him, I asked him numerous times (about a dozen) to see his kids - he responded.... I ask about your mum every day and you ask about my kids 10 times! I am not sure how they are relevant as he himself hadn't see his kids.
He's gone onto say he needs ot be around here.... He blames me for not seeing them, he went on to say that he was willing for us to split up if I wanted to move that far as he needs to be with his kids. he needs to make up for lost time.

Our house is sold, the reason we said we would sell is to move to a better place. Now I am being shoe horned into a situation where we have to rent for a while (which we knew we would have to do), but then fundamentally re-purchase somewhere within 30 minutes of where we are. Which would mean we cannot get the kind of property we wanted.

I just feel so angry and frustrated. Its been a week since we had this, yet I have not seen him make an effort to see his kids that he all of a sudden realised he has. For almost 2 years we were planning our life and now I feel I am just going backwards.

Thoughts and opinions welcome..... Am I being horrible? I just feel so undervalued, underappreciates, and kind of stuck, and hurt that I have been blamed for this

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blublub · 17/08/2021 13:41

I’m amazed you stayed with him treating you like crap FOR YEARS. I’d be thankful you don’t have kids together and cut your loses. Don’t waste anymore of your life trying to gild a turd. I am always amazed with what women will put up with, this is a shining example. You are worth so much more than this!

lunar1 · 17/08/2021 13:43

This situation is unbelievably messed up, it isn't going to get any better no matter what energy you've sunk into the affair and subsequent relationship. You need to cut your losses.

Justilou1 · 17/08/2021 13:51

Loser/User. Get a SHL.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 17/08/2021 13:52

You're a right mug aren't you.
How can a couple of years have this much drama in it.
Either you are so desperate for a man, any man, you will simply put up with anything or you absolutely thrive on drama and mayhem.
Either way I'd go and get counselling if I were you before you end up broke.

NotWanting · 17/08/2021 14:06

This had disaster all over it from the beginning.

Seriously OP. This guy is a fucking loser. A cheating, feckless loser.

I'd leave him.

SilverRoe · 17/08/2021 14:23

Blimey, seems very difficult to believe you have tried to get this guy to have the sort of relationship you want for nearly a decade now. How much time, money and energy you’ve spent. You got your two year travel the world and marriage with him while he ignored his kids though, so guess that’s something, eh.

SilverRoe · 17/08/2021 14:27

Fuck me, you also paid for the round the world travelling after his business went bust..and he merrily decided nah i’d rather go off with my mistress than see my kids and sort out the fallout from my business going bust. You paid the money for him to do that? Wtf, does he have a golden dick or something as they say??

CuriousaboutSamphire · 17/08/2021 14:33

Take your half of the house money and run!

He isn't suitable for long term relationships.

Save yourself more decades of emotional turmoil and being forever disappointed, lied to, finagled.

SunbathingDragon · 17/08/2021 14:33

It doesn’t sound as thought he has changed and has been like this since the start. If you don’t leave him, he will leave you as soon as the next woman agrees to support him (and he has probably already met her as well).

SarahBellam · 17/08/2021 14:52

This was a married man who had an affair with you. This tells you everything you need to know about his character. He cheated on his wife, been a terrible father, he has lied to and fleeced you, and he has managed to make you the one to blame for this mess. You really did win the booby prize, didn’t you. In your shoes I’d cut my losses and get out of the marriage, and set your sights higher next time.

TheWholeWorld · 17/08/2021 14:58

He's bled you dry OP.

He's a feckless, selfish loser. His poor kids.

Take this opportunity to cut ties and divorce him. I can't believe how long he has been stringing you along for Sad

tempester28 · 17/08/2021 15:01

My question is where is the money from the sale of the house? I am sorry but it sounds as though he has used you for financial support?

Tempusfudgeit · 17/08/2021 15:11

Oh, OP. Of all the men in all the world he is your pick? What's wrong with you?

ThirdThoughts · 17/08/2021 15:36

Of course it was your fault or the kids fault he didn't see them. Just like it was his first wife's fault the marriage was bad and his brother's fault about the business.

He takes no responsibility whatsoever and never has done. No doubt when you divorce him he'll have someone else giving him emotional and financial support and he'll tell her how you wrecked his first marriage and relationship with his kids. He'll probably leave out the bits you've mentioned here about financially supporting him and the round the world trip. Doesn't fit his narrative.

You are worth more than this.

BurningRed · 17/08/2021 15:41

You reap what you sow…

Never a truer comment than this.

OP, Leave. Every single one of us is saying the same thing. Or stay and let this nonsense continue. What a loser.

WTF475878237NC · 17/08/2021 15:50

He blamed his wife and now it's your turn. You already knew what you needed to many years ago. Unfortunately you didn't see it. Open your eyes this time and leave him.

DoubleTweenQueen · 17/08/2021 16:04

I don't see how you can bring him around to focussing on the life and relationship he has with you.
He doesn't need to live 30mins away from his kids - are they mid-late teens now? How often does he think he'll be seeing them?

If he's absolutely determined and not taking your wishes into account, I don't know what you can do. You're not going to be happy with this situation, are you?

His re-writing history and putting blame your way raises loud alarm bells :(

summercupcake · 17/08/2021 16:05

He cheated on his wife, been a terrible father, he has lied to and fleeced you, and he has managed to make you the one to blame for this mess

^^this with bells on!

Goodthings · 17/08/2021 16:12

I don’t know why you ever got with him in the first place. What an awful relationship you got yourself into.

Ugzbugz · 17/08/2021 16:20

He sounds hideous. Take the cash and run for the hills and go and have fun.

His mental health was so bad he couldn't see his kids yet could travel the world.

Hes nothing but a selfish pig and appears to be treating you like a cash machine.

Sounds like he screwed the ex over to really.

NotaCoolMum · 17/08/2021 16:26

He sounds like a loser.

user1471457751 · 17/08/2021 16:54

@edwinbear the OP asked for a holiday, he decided seeing his kids was too hard and decided to abandon them. Getting arsey when the wouldn't call while he refused to see them. This isn't the OPs fault

rosamacrose · 17/08/2021 17:05

In 2012 he lied to you by not telling you he was already married while you briefly dated.

When he did tell you, he told you his marriage was awful but that was his wife’s fault.

He hoisted another red flag by declaring love for you, although you had only briefly dated… and then kept you on a string for 3 years.

When you decided, finally, that enough was enough, he reeled you back in and you bankrolled him for another 3 years, all the while soothing his hurt.

By 2018 he felt strong enough to see his children but his wife dictated the terms and you managed, grudgingly, this arrangement for just 8 months! You went on holiday (without them) and he felt too ‘hurt inside’ to see them when he got back… and that again was his wife’s fault because she ‘f-ed him over’.

Those poor children!

So you bankroll him again, marry and do a lot of travelling.

Now time has come to move away from his own comfort zone and nearer to yours, he gives you an ultimatum. He’s decided that it’s your fault he hasn’t seen the children all this time and you’re going to make it impossible for him to do so in the future!

None of this in on him.

He’s done you up l like a kipper, OP. Played you like fiddle.

What a fucking prince.

Leave him.

ILoveCrap · 17/08/2021 19:30

What do you get out of this relationship exactly?!

Sounds to me like he’s had an easy ride, strung you along, had a shit ton of money out of you, can’t be arsed to see his own kids, let’s you deal with all the hard stuff, could go on.

Cut him loose!

reen80 · 17/08/2021 19:30

:(

I cant believe all the comments.... It's been an eye opener

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