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Husband and His Children

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reen80 · 17/08/2021 11:47

Hi all, first time poster...

So I suppose this isn't really just about my husband and his children but a few other things too.

Background; I met my husband 9 years ago. We briefly dated and I discovered he told me he was in an awful marriage with two children. I was shocked. It wasn't really something I wanted to get involved in. I was single, successful and didnt want drama. He told me he loved me, asked if I would wait, and tbh I had fallen in love. Over the next three years whilst he separated we were on/off. His mother had passed away just before I met and him and his father was ill. He kept telling me he wasn't in the right state of mind, but I also could not let go and move on. Sometimes he would end it and sometimes I would end it as I did not want to be the other woman. He would come into my life, be with me then disappear saying he was going through alot. I also then used to call him asking for explanations, trying to understand what i meant to him

I finally decided enough was enough. A month after, around 2015 he called me out the blue and told me his father had passed away and he didn't know who else to tell. (he has no family except a brother). I immediately rushed to be by his side. By this time his divorce proceedings had also started. over the next 6 months I supported his grieving process. I also stated that I didn't want to see him if this was not a long-term thing. He agreed and although he said he was scared of being in a nasty relationship again he wanted to try. for the following 3 years I supported his divorce process, grief, and custody battle. he would come and stay with me 3-4 at least times a week, I'd support his legal costs, make sure he was fed/watered. he had no money and so we hardly did anything that a normal dating couple would do.

The divorce was long and nasty. Aroung 2017-2018 he bang seeing his children again. She dictated that he could see them on Thurs-Sun one weekend and Fri-Sun the following week. So he basically had them every single weekend. She would not agree to another schedule. So that was tough for me, as I was mostly a spare wheel. When the divorce was finalised he paid her.. Bt he had not money so he remortgaged his house, I lent him money and the only way he could remortagage and raise the money is I went in with him. So i moved to his house and started paying all the bills. And for around 8 months from then we had the kids most weekends. He didn't tell them I was his GF. they were good kids, but quiet. Ignored me most of the time. I'd build up a relationshop over the weekend and then it was back to square one the next. They ate awful food (pizza, chicken nuggets, chips) and they were never fed proper balanced diet at home. She would drop that a school club in the AM and pick them up from after school club, and in the weekends they were with us. My husband is very soft with his kids, so he just ran around after then and never sai eat this/do this. I tried my hardest to make balanced meals where they would just cry or moan (even the 11 year old). If I so much as raised my voice my partner would argue with me 'Saying they're just kids' he was rose-tinted for them.

We had some vacations coming up and I asked him to rearrange the schedule with his ex so we could go away. I had always asked him to try and change the dates so that he would have them every other weekend and during the week. As all of this was unfair for me. We had had NO real relationship of dating and doing this together for years because of all this.

He changed the schedule for those 2 weeks. Afterwhich he came back and said he couldn't see the children. he sai is mental state was not right, his business had gone bust, his relationship with his brother had gone sour and he couldn't cope. He stopped seeing them. For 2 years... (2018-2021)

In the two year period I asked him numerous times to see his kids (at least a dozen) he gave me the same reason. He was also angry with them as they did not return calls etc. During hat time we married, travelled a lot of the world, and for the last 1-2 years have planned to sell our house and move a few hours away to buy country house which we dreamed of. again during these two years he found a job but I have supported him through alegal case with his brother. I'll mention again I have said to him, see the kids, sort it out, and he just used to get upset and said he couldn't, it hurt him inside, they would understand when they were older (his ex wife really F-ed him over).

We sold the house, we viewed a few places a few hours away. And now all of a sudden after 1-2 years of dreaming of this and agreeing he says he wats to stay within 30 mins of the kids because then he will never ever see them. I was gob smacked.

He went on to say he hadn't seen the kids for two years because of me, because when we saw them we argued. He said how would you feel if i said to you don't see your kids every weekend. He went on to say, have you ever asked how/why i am going to see the kids if we move (even though it was his idea). When i told him, I asked him numerous times (about a dozen) to see his kids - he responded.... I ask about your mum every day and you ask about my kids 10 times! I am not sure how they are relevant as he himself hadn't see his kids.
He's gone onto say he needs ot be around here.... He blames me for not seeing them, he went on to say that he was willing for us to split up if I wanted to move that far as he needs to be with his kids. he needs to make up for lost time.

Our house is sold, the reason we said we would sell is to move to a better place. Now I am being shoe horned into a situation where we have to rent for a while (which we knew we would have to do), but then fundamentally re-purchase somewhere within 30 minutes of where we are. Which would mean we cannot get the kind of property we wanted.

I just feel so angry and frustrated. Its been a week since we had this, yet I have not seen him make an effort to see his kids that he all of a sudden realised he has. For almost 2 years we were planning our life and now I feel I am just going backwards.

Thoughts and opinions welcome..... Am I being horrible? I just feel so undervalued, underappreciates, and kind of stuck, and hurt that I have been blamed for this

OP posts:
Jobsharenightmare · 17/08/2021 19:41

What a scumbag. His wife is well rid. Do the same!

TacCat49 · 17/08/2021 22:28

Have you ever talked to his ex to get her side of the story? I bet that would be an eye opener. All the drama. Wow..

Merryoldgoat · 17/08/2021 22:36

I don’t even know where to begin OP.

I can’t understand why you fell so hard for this comer tosspot.

rejectedcarrit · 17/08/2021 22:41

Oh dear. He had that nasty divorce because his ex was so unreasonable. Now it turns out you are the unreasonable one who refused to let him see his kids....I see a pattern here.

Run!

Widown · 17/08/2021 23:35

Lol what drama

Spysolation · 17/08/2021 23:48

He’s used you financially and now you’re getting the blame for him not seeing his children. It’s a tale as old as time. You won’t be the first woman to have experienced this. It’s typical deadbeat dad bullshit.

Bananarama21 · 17/08/2021 23:58

I suspect you don't know the real story between his ex wife and you were the ow. You wanted to amend the schedule and do stuff just adults and when he did, he didn't see his dc and you seemed happy getting married within that time holidaying and potentially moving far away. Why would you do that knowing he had dc. Honestly I think it suited you when he didn't see them and you mentioned them now and again but you didn't really challenge him.

Newestname001 · 19/08/2021 08:57

I'm sorry @reen80 but you have made some pretty poor decisions regarding this man from the beginning. I hope you can see that, based on some of the responses you've had here.

The next step is to protect yourself as you've left yourself so vulnerable financially, compared where you were at the beginning of this relationship.

First of all protect your funds, including the money from the house sale, especially if he is rubbish with money, as you've said. Move the money into a personal account that he's not named on, nor has access to. Change all your banking passwords now.

Then see a very good solicitor (don't tell him you're doing this) to see where all this leaves you as a married woman.

Good luck OP, and focus on making sensible, practical decisions for your future. 🌹

GoodnightGrandma · 19/08/2021 08:59

I got as far as you’ve paid out a lot of money and stopped reading.
Bin him off.

Timeforredwine · 19/08/2021 09:02

Wow what were you thinking in the very beginning, he has used you completely. You are too nice for your own good. Do yourself a favour and be on your own to enjoy your life.

billy1966 · 19/08/2021 09:07

@IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves

I think he's had a lot of money off you, that's what I think.
This.

He has made an awful gobshite out of you, and you have allowed him to.

You must be absolutely desperate for any man to have accepted the bullshit that you have written.

Get back your money from the proceeds from the house and get the hell out would be the obvious thing to do.

Unfortunately your need to make your life as difficult, messy, drama filled will prevent you from doing that.

Remaining on this path is a recipe for continued disaster.

You are his emotional punching bag.

What a waste of a life.Flowers🙄🤷‍♀️

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 19/08/2021 09:08

Leave him OP. He sounds like an awful, awful partner.

He's made you pay for his own problems and sounds like he's a shite husband and father.

Do not have children with him!
Please get away from him before he sucks you dry.

hedgehogger1 · 19/08/2021 09:56

This is not a healthy relationship for anyone involved. End it

Newestname001 · 20/08/2021 11:44

How are you doing today @reen80? 🌹

Hopeisnotastrategy · 20/08/2021 12:26

You feel undervalued because you are. This man values nobody but himself. It's a great time now you've sold your house to put an end to this nonsense. Who needs all this hassle and unhappiness? 💐

bigbaggyeyes · 20/08/2021 12:47

I think he's absolutely taken you for a ride. He's used you emotionally and financially.

I'd take what you can, what he owes you from the house sale and walk away. He sounds awful quite frankly.

GullyGull · 20/08/2021 12:59

You've been taken for a mug. I would love to hear the 'evil ex's' side Hmm

I bet you weren't the first affair either. Cut your losses and run for the hills.

FinallyHere · 20/08/2021 13:15

I think in time you will gone to see that you have dodged a bullet in not buying your dream house with this man. Who has the funds from the house you did sell. Divorce him, Take your half of the house.

Disengage, move out. Rebuild your life.

Sorrry, I agree with PPs re sunken cost fallacy. Sooner you get out the better.

Marmelace · 20/08/2021 19:36

Do you think he may have married you to get better access to your money?

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 20/08/2021 19:42

Not being judgey with my comment about you being a mug.
Just do not waste 20 years on being with a sponging, selfish tosspot like I did.
You realise when you finally do leave how awful it was and you really want to kick yourself up the backside.
Men never respect women who give too much, they just don't. They prefer high maintenance bitches.

Mums1234 · 20/08/2021 20:03

I haven't read all the posts but you must be in shock and feeling hurt. I'm sending you a virtual hug x

Thisisnotwhatiwant · 20/08/2021 20:07

What I’ve taken from this is, its all about you doing what’s right for him. Being there, emotional and financial support, being the fixer. All about him! What about you, and what you want and deserve, I suspect there is an awful lot that your really aren’t aware of even after all this time. Perhaps it’s time to put your and your needs first

billy1966 · 20/08/2021 20:32

Op,
You have had the hard harsh posts.

Come back and get support to kick this user to touch.

You clearly are a great woman.
YOU deserve better than him.Flowers

Cloudfrost · 20/08/2021 23:01

I am Confused at the post telling the OP she deserves better.. Did some of u skipped the part of being the ow for years???

You reap what you sow..
The pair of you were awful human beings to both the ex and the kids...
Hope you stay together so the rest of us is safe from having to deal with you both.

reader12 · 20/08/2021 23:25

“I could not let go and move on”

Get some therapy to try to figure out why you have wasted years of your life, and lots of your money, on this selfish useless man. And move on and make better choices next time. Good luck. Flowers