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Partner cheated with escorts

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spoonfullofsugar88 · 29/07/2021 07:28

Morning everyone

Not sure if I've posted in the right place but I'm currently 4 weeks pregnant after losing a baby back in early May at 13 weeks. I was devastated and after my loss I sunk into bad depression, something I've suffered with my whole life on and off since teenage years.

We knew the baby had died at 11 weeks and I had to wait 2 weeks to have a termination as it didn't pass naturally. In this time I was drinking quite a lot and was in a bad place.

One night during this time my fiancé was sleeping and I went down his phone. I'd never done this in the 2 years we have been together but I had a gut feeling. He had become very distant during my pregnancy and began taking his phone everywhere. I never imagined what I was going to see. I felt he had been being 'off' but we spend all of our time together pretty much unless he's working.

His phone was full of calls and messages to escorts, he would meet them in hotels during his lunch period. He has a child from a previous relationship and was telling the child's mother how much he loves her and misses her (the ex not the child), he had even met a pre-op transvestite male in a hotel one afternoon when he said he had been at work. His ex had also had a termination around a week after we had found out I was pregnant and it was his. He paid for her to have one. My whole world shattered. I'd just lost our baby and now this.

I confronted him but he convinces me I'm the crazy one and denies everything. You can't hold a conversation with him as he gets angry and twists things. He eventually cried and apologised and said how stupid he had been and how he can't live without me.

I know I should have run a mile then but I was in such a low place I didn't want to be alone. I was desperately sad about the baby and just wanted to try again for another one so I stupidly forgave him and began TTC straight away. I got a BFP almost immediately and am now 4 weeks along. Im so anxious this time in my pregnancy after what happened before and I feel more alone than ever. I don't want to tell anyone until at least 12 weeks this time and every day feels like a year.

He's such a loving partner and I still can't believe what he did to me, it doesn't make sense in my head as although I've seen it with my own eyes he is such a good liar and almost convinces me it isn't true. Since being together we have sex every day and do absolutely everything together, I just can't understand why I'm not enough for him. Sometimes when he's been drunk and we have sex he has scared me a few times as he gets really dominant and changes his whole persona. I don't say anything as would rather he is like it with me than to go somewhere else.

Not sure if anyone would have had similar experiences but advice would be welcomed. Pretty sure I know what the advice will be, I know what I'd be saying to do if it were one of my Friends but being in the situation yourself is incredibly hard.

TIA

OP posts:
EvenRosesHaveThorns · 29/07/2021 12:15

You have only one option. Go to your family. Please don't waste your and your child's life in this toxic relationship. You can do this, thousands or millions of women have before you

HollowTalk · 29/07/2021 12:21

Bloody hell, OP, it's like you're living with Chairman Mao, with all those red flags flying around.

He got another woman pregnant at the same time you were pregnant.
He pays escorts for sex.
His sexual urges seem completely out of control.
Now you're pregnant again and think he's a loving partner? Have you heard of hysterical bonding? It might be something you should look at.

spoonfullofsugar88 · 29/07/2021 12:31

@oprahwindfuryy

No way would I have a child with this cretin & tie my self to him forever.
Are you suggesting I terminate? After having to have done so just a few months ago for medical reasons? Going through that again would break me. The baby is the only thing keeping me strong right now. I know it's not a good situation to bring a child into, but I have a very stable job which pays well and I can look after it myself. I know what a piece of shit he is and I do plan on leaving, I just don't feel strong enough to do so yet. I'm worried what I'll do to myself if I am alone at the moment. I'm getting stronger each day but it will take time..
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WhiskeyGalore212 · 29/07/2021 12:34

Might I just point out that some std's can cause foetal abnormalities.

For the good of your current pregnancy any any future unprotected sex and possible pregnancies with him.

Condoms don't fully protect against what herpes, the wart virus etc.

WhiskeyGalore212 · 29/07/2021 12:37

Could you live with anyone else op?

It's great to read your most recent post, you will he fine. You'll have your lovely child abd you can meet someone who's not a cheater abd sexual degenerate if you want to.

fantastaballs · 29/07/2021 12:44

My god, this is absolutely horrific. This poor poor baby. Can you imagine it? Asking at 3- 4 years old where your dad is as it's your birthday and your mum trying to hide that he was either balls deep in another male prostitution (yet again) or supporting yet another woman through the umpteenth abortion.

Op. I mean this as gently and as recently as possible. He-

Doesn't respect you
Doesn't even like you
Doesn't care about you
Doesn't care about this baby

He does-

Treat you like shit
Show his utter contempt for you
Tell you VERY clearly he won't change

Why on Earth would you want a life long connection to this mouth breathing piece of shit excuse for a human? Do you honestly think this is a wise move? Do you think your child will thank you for this? Being a parent is about putting the child and it's needs above your own. But in this you are clearly putting your own desire to be pregnant above the actual child and hire it will be raised. Nothing of any of this is healthy

WhiskeyGalore212 · 29/07/2021 12:45

just can't understand why I'm not enough him.

He's out shagging prostitutes at lunch time from work - including a fucking man!!!!!

Who is enough for him?

Was his ex enough for him, clearly clearly since theyre split (and she's still silly enough to shag him).

The rough sex ... another user here who found out her fiance had been using prostitutes said that too. Porn soaked men whkbenjoy degrading women (often violently), that's why they use sex workers, because most non sex workers women won't go along with it. I've seen the reviews on UK punting about them "throat fucking" a young woman who was visibly out of it and clearly a drug user according to their comments.

He clearly is driven to lots of variety, to rough, degrading sex, even to men ..... look at how he spends his lunch hour; the correct question is; why would he be enough for me.

Notagain20 · 29/07/2021 12:47

Great to hear your update, OP, so glad you have a secure job and can support yourself, and that you are planning to leave this guy. If you can spend a bit of time with family or friends, just even a bit, that might help you feel a bit stronger too, just being with someone other than this horrible man who's made you feel so rubbish. You've been through such a lot with losing your baby, it's understandable if you feel fragile. Just keep making your plans for your new life without him and take any helpful advice about how to get your ducks in a row.

WhiskeyGalore212 · 29/07/2021 12:51

And that's not even getting onto his treatment of his ex, and cheating on you with her.

Did she know about you?

This guys definitely got some jedi mind trick bull shit, to have her having sex with him, unprotected, when when moved on (and she doesn't even know about the prostitutes) ... he's clearly extremely manipulative.

sunnyzweibrucken · 29/07/2021 12:59

I’m with @oprahwindfuryy
I would terminate. There are so many men out there you can meet who have integrity, would truly be loving and treat you with respect. And I couldn’t imagine giving my child a father like this.

sunnyzweibrucken · 29/07/2021 13:00

*giving them a father like your dh/dp I mean.

WhiskeyGalore212 · 29/07/2021 13:01

Op doesn't want to terminate.

No point pursuing it with someone who's v upset abd vulnerable.

oprahwindfuryy · 29/07/2021 13:06

I understand it’s a harsh thing to hear. But yes I would terminate in your position. Having a baby and being able to support said baby alone is only half. What about when this sad excuse of a man wants weekends, and holidays. You are worlds apart morally so I can only imagine the difference in parenting.

Maggiesfarm · 29/07/2021 13:07

I'm glad you are planning to leave this man but sorry you decided to become pregnant again with him. I mean, you could have split up and eventually met someone better with whom to settle down and have a family. However what's done is done.

He is awful, frankly. How he can protest innocence in the face of so much evidence is beyond me.

Make your plans and good luck for the future.

WhiskeyGalore212 · 29/07/2021 13:07

With his aversion to condoms, this guy will probably have another couple of kids anyway and this type generally makes less and less effort to pretend to play daddy with access with each consecutive child.

Hopefully he'll not be on the scene too much.

MrsBertBibby · 29/07/2021 13:09

I asked about drinking, OP, because I have seen so many women slide into alcohol abuse through trying to cope with exactly this sort of abuse. And then lose their baby, to the abuser, or to the care system.

This man is dismantling you, piece by piece. Please, get out now.

WhiskeyGalore212 · 29/07/2021 13:10

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WhiskeyGalore212 · 29/07/2021 13:10

*off him.

WhiskeyGalore212 · 29/07/2021 13:12

@MrsBertBibby

I asked about drinking, OP, because I have seen so many women slide into alcohol abuse through trying to cope with exactly this sort of abuse. And then lose their baby, to the abuser, or to the care system.

This man is dismantling you, piece by piece. Please, get out now.

He's certainly a pretty skillful manipulator; still got his ex & mother of his first child with the hook in her mouth.
Twillow · 29/07/2021 13:13

You poor girl. You have been isolated from friends and family by him and are beginning to 'normalise' his behaviour to cope. He is a controller. Yes, he will now have a burner phone. It's all about games to him, how clever he is, who he's deceiving (probably the ex is suffering as bad as you).
Speak to Domestic Abuse services, get your head straight. You do this secretly!!!
You can't stay in this long-term and I think you know that.

Katefoster · 29/07/2021 13:16

He's cut you off from all your friends and is now gas lighting you. He's cheated on your with escorts and his ex. He clearly hasn't been using condoms as he got her pregnant so god knows what STIs he's given to you. He sounds like a sex addict. He also sounds like a controlling manipulative prick and you need to leave him. Can you re connect with your family and can they help you?

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 29/07/2021 13:19

@WhiskeyGalore212

he is clearly not over his ex and was cheating on you with her

To the contrary, given he has sex with op all the time, and sex with escorts .. I'd say he is over her; he's just treats all women women shite.

And he's risking both womens health having unprotected sex with them while also having sex with sex workers.

I absolutely agree. All this behaviour shows he is incapable of loving someone or even caring for someone.
Jumpingintosummer · 29/07/2021 13:20

You say you can look after this baby by yourself, I suggest you do just that. Leave, get settled alone, and break the ties.

He slept with escorts, a man, got his ex pregnant and paid to terminate… risked your health… quite frankly your a fool if you stay and not protecting your baby if you continue to sleep with this cretin!

pinkbubbles100 · 29/07/2021 13:23

Hey OP. I was in a very similar situation. He was the perfect partner all throughout pregnancy. I checked his phone and he was messaging girls left right and centre. He even had an app which hid messages and calls. I couldn't believe it, he was perfect otherwise! I tried to get over it but ended up ending it with him for good when baby was 18 months old. He never stopped cheating. Your partner won't stop either. I promise you.

Please look at the red flags he is displaying. My ex is a narcissist and co-parenting is so difficult. He's resentful I ended it and has never been able to let go of the bitterness. I'm stuck with that for the next 13 years or so.

If I was you, I'd terminate and start life afresh without him. He's a Shitbag and you can do better. By keeping the child you're setting yourself up for a single parent life - it's not easy. You have the chance to walk away, tie free - I'd do it. Your partner is a cheat and he does not love you - he has been fooling you. Nothing you do will make him change, it's sad to say but you aren't enough to change him - but that's because he is beneath you and not worthy of you. Don't be that mug woman. Show him you know your worth and get him out of your life. The man got him ex pregnant while with you and paid for a termination. That's unforgivable.

The little snippets you've seen of him behaviour is the real him. Believe me!!!!!!! Please!

You were fine before you met him and you'll be fine after. Be strong x

GingerBeverage · 29/07/2021 13:37

OP, please look after yourself, put yourself first. If there's any thought lingering in your mind that having his baby will somehow turn him into a devoted partner, put that one away. Nothing you do or say or life you create will change him.
But you can break away, just keep asking for help. Keep talking.

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