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Haunted by the past

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SkeletonsFromThePast · 27/07/2021 00:14

I really need a place to process this.

I had abusive childhood. I get it. I've had therapy and I understand it was my parents, their own experiences and inadequacies. I get that. My dad was physically abusive and I was terrified of him growing up. My mum was emotionally abusive and that continued until I cut contact with her 10 years ago.

I've not been able to recover. I've had therapy so many times. Different types, different therapists. And nothing has helped.

Throughout my childhood, my dad ignored emotionally. there was nothing at all. No relationship. I understand why. Physical abuse happened because he was unhappy and frustrated in his marriage as was my mum. They should never have been together - both settled, completely different people.

I was not the daughter she wanted. I wasn't pretty, I wasn't girly. I was outspoken and defiant, challenging and intelligent and she told me no one would ever love me or want me. She was right. She criticised every aspect of appearance and personality. I don't think she liked anything about me.

I became pregnant when I was 23. The relationship was abusive. I had no choice but to.love back home but I wasn't wanted there and, when I was in hospital having.my son, my mother arranged for me.to go into a social services run mother amd baby home. It's only occurred to me in the past few years that I don't know how she managed it. The other residents were drugs addicts, on the CP register themselves, care leavers, undertaking parenting assessments. I didn't fit. The only thing 'wrong' was that nobody loved me.and nobody cared. I was threatened with violence, my child was threatened, I had my things stolen. I've never ecovered from it.

I'm now 46. It was half my lifetime ago but I feel stuck and trapped.

Since then, I've had a second child. I got a degree, became a teacher, brought my two children up largely singlehandedly. But I can't escape it. Put one through university.

I feel unworthy. Unlovable. I feel trapped here because of my children. I've had hobbies, made friends - created a facsimile of a 'normal life' (eg a career, taking the children to clubs and hobbies etc) but the lack of love and the lack of support has impacted terribly. I'm just a hollow shell.

I struggle at work - I doubt my competence and it doesn't occur to me to ask for help when I'm struggling. I do temp contracts because I can't let people.get that close to me or to see the real me.

I can't form personal relationships. I've never been loved. I've never had a long term relationship. I really struggle.to take friendships beyond the superficial. I've been told I'm distant and push people away but, when I try not to, people put up barriers to keep me away. I can see it. I'm not stupid but I can't work out what I'm doing wrong either.

I feel like I'm treading water, drifting through life until death. I've clearly tried to overcome it. I went to university when eldest was 2 and got a first class degree. I trained as a teacher when my youngest was 1 and passed my training and induction year without hitch.

I can be disciplined - I've lost weight, stuck to hobbies for several years, I've taken on personal challenges but it all feels so fragile and transient - like I'm playing a game.

I don't have any stability in my life. No permanent job, no relationship, my friendships are also transient, I rent.

If I had the option to walk through a door now and never have existed, I'd walk through without consideration.

I'm lost, I'm lonely, I'm broken. I'm drowning and I don't know what to do anymore

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SkeletonsFromThePast · 27/07/2021 22:24

At the weekend, I stayed at my male friend's house. We usually share a bed.

On Saturday, he hugged me in bed. Spooning I guess. But he tucked the duvet down in between us so our bodies weren't touching. But he had his arms wrapped round me and i wasn't crying but had tears rolling down my face because it was just so nice but not real.

He held me like that until I fell.asleep and then he went and slept in the other room. No idea why. We'd been out and had a lovely evening. No conversation that would have made him feel it was necessary.

But that's just it. That's what I mean about it being what I imagine relationships to be like. But it isn't one.

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Sarahlou63 · 27/07/2021 22:24

This is something to fill those weeks -

www.udemy.com/course/cognitive-behavioural-therapy-online-course-cbt-practitioner-course/

Click on the link a few times and the price magically drops to about £20! It's hugely informative with lots of external resources. As I mentioned up thread, I've been studying CBT for 18 months and this is by far and away the most complete and enjoyable course (as long as you enjoy a Scottish accent!).

WouldBeGood · 27/07/2021 22:25

Could it be @SkeletonsFromThePast?

SkeletonsFromThePast · 27/07/2021 22:26

[quote Thehouseofmarvels]@MagnusMagnusson thanks that's interesting. He has some career ideas, but does not think he is ever likely to be well enough for a 9 to 5 job. I think part time freelance work is probably what is most likely to happen. He has made a third of a film a few years ago when his health was much better so the aim is to work towards getting it finished. He has filmed a monologue with a friend recently and is going to make a very short film this year. He has showed interest in doing football coaching. I am training as an art teacher so I him doing football classes as after school clubs and us maybe running film classes at weekends when mum can watch kiddies is probably the way to go. Along with the focus groups he has done for a few years. [/quote]
Those sound like great ideas. I get the need to not be in a 9-5. It feels very oppressive.

I suppose that's one of the reasons i do what i do.

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SkeletonsFromThePast · 27/07/2021 22:28

Could it be

I doubt it. We did date for a few months but I couldn't cope with it and ended it. My mental health really suffered.

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WouldBeGood · 27/07/2021 22:28

💕 it’s hard going

SkeletonsFromThePast · 27/07/2021 22:29

I don't think it's what he wants either.

Or rather, i dont think I'm who he wants it with.

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WouldBeGood · 27/07/2021 22:32

Maybe.. maybe that’s your worries talking. You sound like a pretty good partner, as an objective individual

Ugzbugz · 27/07/2021 22:33

I understand but had SA chucked in that no one knows about DM was fine but didn't protect me and we are close but sometimes I Could punch her.

I have a DC who Is my life but without him I'm not sure I would be here, drugs and alcohol would have taken over.

My every waking and sleeping thought is that creep and nothing will ever repair that. I sometimes feel like what is my purpose and how much I would have loved life had this have not happened now I feel like I'm tortured.

Sorry this doesn't help but I don't think much helps as sad as that is.

Logmein · 27/07/2021 22:37

Firstly OP you have done an amazing job as a Mum, you did everything for your children whilst putting your trauma to the back so that they had the very best.
Not saying you didn't make mistakes before you go there ( because I know you will) as we all do.
I think maybe the therapy you have tried has not gone into the extremely complex issue of your fear of rejection ( only my observation of a tiny insight to your life), because of this fear you won't/don't want a full-time job relationship of any kind, your preemptive in your approach to living.
Thats a hard place to be and hard to unpick.
I think this is why group therapy is more comfortable for you too.
There is a lot of reading online ( I would say look for yourself as this can be part of the journey, part of the start to healing) then maybe when you feel ready look for specialist support for trauma, PTSD etc.

yourestandingonmyneck · 27/07/2021 22:55

I'm so sorry. I don't really know what to say except - you sound lovely. You had such a bad start and you didn't deserve any of that. You have achieved a lot.

Finally, and I don't really know if this is any consolation or not but I know two people brought up in very similar situations to you, who have been affected in a similar way. They are both doing ok, but it did take a lot to get there. Please keep reaching out. I don't really know what to advise a regards therapy etc, but somebody will. Please get the support you need. Xxx

Closetbeanmuncher · 27/07/2021 23:11

I found your post really moving, and as corny as it sounds I wish I could hug you.

There's not one thing hollow about you. You have the determination and strength of character that most people will never even scratch the surface of. I truly do hope you find some peace.

Do you think it may be compounding the feeling of inadequacy having this male friend around at this moment in time. It sounds as if a unattainable carrot is being dangled if that makes any sense?

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AmberIsACertainty · 28/07/2021 00:54

@SkeletonsFromThePast

I don't think it's what he wants either.

Or rather, i dont think I'm who he wants it with.

Are you 'mind reading' him or have you actually had a conversation? Because you can't really read minds, regardless of what your brain is telling you Wink
user1481840227 · 28/07/2021 01:48

Hi OP
A lot of what you said resonates with me.
Can I ask what forms of therapy you have tried? sorry I may have missed out on some of the posts but you said group therapy and CBT, have you tried any others?

Talk therapy isn't for everyone.
For some people they learn why others treated them why they did, they learn that it wasn't about them and they see all the ways that it impacted them...but then that's it...there's no healing, understanding doesn't really do that much.

CBT can be helpful but again it's not going to work for everyone.
Another poster mentioned EMDR, that might help you if you were interested.

Are you spiritual in any way?
Would you try some kind of spiritual healing? I've recently started on that journey myself, I've never been religious at all, but unfortunately all of my emotional trauma has been hitting me hard by showing us physical issues and due to a series of synchronicities this has been the path I've been led on. I've been learning about chakras and energy and I had an angel healing recently and it was absolutely wonderful Smile.

Have you heard of plant medicine? Obviously that sounds like such a radical thing to try and I haven't started that part of the journey yet myself but many people who need radical emotional healing to go on to be able to live an emotionally fulfilling life have said it's life changing!

ShadowR · 04/04/2022 00:20

i feel you i haven't had an easy past life myself it is still a struggle to deal with to this day i'm the same as you about being broken and lonely i felt like i couldn't escape my problems and no one could understand and because of my problems its been hard for me to make friends and to bond with anyone

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