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Abusive ex wants me to come on holiday with his family to facilitate contact

66 replies

LegendaryEndermam · 20/07/2021 00:06

This is really an AIBU but putting it here because I'd rather filter out the people who respond assuming that ex is a reasonable person.

Ex is an abusive arsehole who does not and never has respected any boundary and would not ever take no for an answer when we were together. He continues to try to push boundaries whenever he can and I have worked quite hard to be as low contact with him myself while still doing what is needed for the children's contact. He was physically, sexually and emotionally abusive when we were together and it was realising the negative effect of that on the dc which finally gave me the push to escape.

We have 4 children, the eldest is autistic and more often than not refuses to see his father. The younger children like to see him.

Ex has asked the children to visit with him and his family, staying in a hotel for a few days. I think it's unlikely that eldest will end up wanting to go, but he has expressed some interest in the holiday. Ex has said that eldest can only go if I also go. I said no. Ex says that he could stay in another hotel and I could have a room next door to the children in case eldest needs me. His mum will be going, as well as him, two of his sisters and another adult family friend, but ex keeps saying how his mum is elderly and frail and so it's not fair for me to refuse to facilitate eldest coming if he wants to, because she is too old to cope if eldest melts down.

The thing is - eldest doesn't cope well out of his routine, and does need me at night times. And the stuff they will be doing is not stuff he is likely to enjoy (he is quite a bit older than his younger siblings). So I have had doubts that he would actually go along or cope if he did, but I also don't want him to feel excluded if he does turn out to want to go.
But I just can't go and spend several days having to interact with ex at least several times per day.
I know that in a normal, amicable, split it might be good for the children to see their parents still co-operating and getting along doing things together, but in this case I really don't want to expose them to the interactions between me and ex which are almost always manipulative, controlling and or abusive on his side.

AIBU to say no I won't go on this holiday, even if that means ds1 also can't go? AIBU to feel like it's not my fault if ds1 can't go, when ex says he can only go if I go too?

OP posts:
SixesAndEights · 20/07/2021 20:15

It's his problem if he can't provide what's needed for his son, so a no from me.

CharityDingle · 20/07/2021 20:17

Not a snowball's chance in hell, absolutely not!

Naunet · 20/07/2021 20:18

@PamDenick

Only go if you can take your new boyfriend... And keep going upstairs for ‘naps’...

Or just ‘Dearie me, no’...

😄 this!

Out of interest OP, is he proposing that he would be paying all your expenses?

Theunamedcat · 20/07/2021 20:22

Why can't his frail mother stay near to you and visit somewhere ds feels comfortable

Because she is a bargaining chip to guilt trip you into dropping your boundaries

PamDenick · 20/07/2021 20:25

If you don’t happen to have a new boyfriend atm (and who can blame you after coming out of an abusive marriage and busy with four kids), then could the power (and pennies) of MN hire you an actor for the week?
You could go and own it!
In fact, I feel a Richard Curtis film coming on!

toocold54 · 20/07/2021 20:33

Will this be a fun holiday?
I would feel bad that your son is missing out but I can see why you wouldn’t want to go.

LegendaryEndermam · 20/07/2021 20:34

😂😂😂

Sadly I have no boyfriend and not sure I could cope with an actor for an extended period of time 😂

He is offering to pay expenses, but he also has much form for promising money that never materialises so...

OP posts:
PamDenick · 20/07/2021 20:41

You could maybe make it work... but you would need to steel yourself first...

PamDenick · 20/07/2021 21:51

But, generally, HELL NO!

Ineverpromisedyouarosegarden · 20/07/2021 22:22

Another No! from me but as the parent of a child with ASD I would be fuming that basically you can't have any respite because he can't/ won't step up for your Dc and plan a holiday that would suit the childs needs.

Notaroadrunner · 20/07/2021 22:30

Glad you've said no. Surely his family know what he's like so I wouldn't give a second thought to what they think about you saying no.

NotaCoolMum · 21/07/2021 06:51

A definite HELL NO from me too!!! Tell him to stick the holiday up his arse.

Wiredforsound · 21/07/2021 07:18

NO! Absolutely not. You need a break and it’s beyond time for him to step up and learn to care properly for ALL his children. He just wants you there to do more work, and to do the hard parenting, and I’ll bet babysitting as well, while he gets to swan around knowing everything is taken care of - by you. He is treating you like the hired help. Spell it out - he WILL be taking all 3 children and how he sorts that is up to him. You are not his servant and you deserve a bit of time off.

Wiredforsound · 21/07/2021 07:23

All 4 children - sorry about that 😂

Mrstreehouse · 21/07/2021 07:25

No! No! No!… is this the only thread where everyone on Mumsnet is in agreement?😂

thelastgoldeneagle · 21/07/2021 08:34

Hell, no! Your ex just wants to control you.

If your eldest did melt down, with would his mum have to deal with it?? Surely he'd deal with it??

Refuse. Send the younger dc if they want to go.

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