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Partner MASSIVELY lied about all his sexual past, plus other little things. I have just broke up with him

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Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:02

I am a 31 year old woman and I have recently split with my boyfriend (he is 28) after I realised that we couldn’t solve the issue he has with being honest. We were together for 3 years and lived together for 2. Our cultural differences also contributed a lot to this (we are from two different countries).

He was the most caring and compassionate boyfriend I ever had. He was my best friend, the first person I always asked for advice and help, and I was the same for him. Always putting my needs first, a great romantic and affectionate lover with a big heart. I have been very spoilt in the last 3 years as he always treated me like a princess. He always been very loving and respectful with me, wanted to marry me soon and have kids in the next couple of years.

However, for some reason, when we moved together after one year of relationship, I started to have a terrible gut feeling and felt that he wasn’t completely honest with me. I started to have anxiety problems and started to go to therapy, thinking that I was crazy and the fault was only mine. I have also started to be more investigative and jealous with him, sometimes for no apparent reason. I have thought that my parents relationship (where my dad has been cheating on my mum for years) really affected my ability to trust men and that I needed to fix that as I had an amazing boyfriend next to me.

However this did not explain why I did not have the same fears with my previous boyfriend whom I lived together for almost 5 years, and with the boyfriend before him. Of course I was moderately jealous (as most of latin passionate people are !) but I never ever had a single trust issue with them.

Over the years, I have realised that my boyfriend has lied to me many many times, mostly little, but MASSIVELY lied about ALL his sexual past.

I have to admit that I am a bit the iper sensitive woman who gets upset easily, but also to add that I mainly became this way after the first year. In the beginning of the relationship especially, I was very relaxed so I don’t understand why he felt the need to lie to that extent.

I could sometimes justify men’s lies if they have a iper sensitive woman as a girlfriend. But what about if the way they lie is actually more worrying that the lie itself? What about if they deny evidences and make many false promises ? And what about if the extent they lie is just quite remarkable?

I give some more specific example on what happened with us:

  1. On our first dates, I asked him if he ever paid for sex. He denied it saying that he never needed it and find it disgusting. As I am really against prostitution and this is my biggest dealbreaker (but he didn’t know that in the beginning) I have asked this question multiple times to him in the last 3 years(I just felt he wasn’t honest) he always ALWAYS denied and promises 10000 times he did not. 3 years later I found out that he did in the past in several occasions, and seems like he cheated on his ex girlfriend with prostitutes on a trip to Thailand (he told me he left this girlfriend because she cheated on him, “forgetting“ to say that he did it first). He even lied on his previous girlfriend as well, saying he never cheated on anyone. I have found out he also cheated on her many times (he was really young though).
  1. As I come from a culture where hooking up and having sex around with strangers is very unusual, the first date I have asked him (always in a non judgement way) how his sexual past was, without wanting specific details or numbers. He told me that “he wasn’t a saint but he wasn’t that bad”. Months later he even added that “he was never a one night stand person“, and mostly slept with girls after having dated them. He even been slightly annoyed when I told him the number of my sexual partners, which is relatively low. Few days ago I find out the he had sex with 300/400 girls -all one night stands (he previously told me his number was about 30 in total!). I know this sounds crazy but it is very possible as he worked 6 seasons abroad in a party place, and because I have also worked a season there, I know how the situation is. He also denied having done anything too crazy (sexually) then I discovered he had threesome, orgies, sex in toilets with random strangers etc.
  1. He came back home multiple occasions lying to me on his occasional cocaine use. I have a past experience with drug use so I have always caught him! Sometimes he even strongly denies the evidences then confessed hours after. I have proved him that I would not get upset if he told me and that I just needed to know the truth in case I’ve asked, but still kept lying.

These are just few examples but there are more. The thing that worries me most is the way he lies, which I find quite manipulative: he promises me (the fake) on his family’s life, he tells me things like “you know I would never do that to you , I can tell you anything as you are my best friend, you can trust me” followed by another lie. Basically he builds massive stories around the lies he tells. He is good at it, but my gut instinct is stronger than his ability to lie.

He got upset because “the past is the past” and I cannot “deal with his past”. What about if I never had the chance to deal with his past as it was hidden from me for 3 years? I am not saying people should be completely honest about their sexual history in the beginning of the relationship, but at least they should give a good accountability on what happened, so that the partner can choose if they even want to deal with it or not and rather date someone else.

I don’t want to judge people, but I think I had the right to choose which kind of man I wanted as my future husband, and I never wanted someone who paid for a prostitute. He knew I felt so strong about it but kept denying. I feel like he forced me to be together 3 years with someone I did not want to be with. He said he did it out of love, but I think that real love should be thinking about the other person’s needs first.

The way I found out all these things is definitely not honourable: I have checked his phone multiple times in the last few months, after I have realised he wasn’t honest with me. I am very embarrassed about that, as I have never ever did it in my previous relationships and I don’t want to be that person. The old messages I found (when he was around 19 to 23) were also very disrespectful towards women, calling them with all possible names and sharing nude pictures of them with all his friends. Some of them were also a bit racist. Do all guys to this between them? I have also been more childish in the past, but my core values have always been the same.

Last month we had a massive argument for the same reason explained above. He promised me he would stop lying and go to therapy, he never did. He knew it was the last chance I would give him. Few days ago ago I discovered more lies and I have broken up with him. We are not talking in 5 days and it never happened before.

However, guilt and sadness are killing me and I don’t know if I did the right choice. I really want to get married and have a family, and I feel I’m getting older and I have just failed in another relationship. I just don’t really want a man like my dad and I don’t want to take the risk! I am also aware that I get upset easily and I haven’t always put him in the position of being honest with me. I am so worried I have made the biggest mistake of my life and lost my soulmate and best friend.
Ps: I am registered on here because we were actually trying to have a baby, you can imagine the stress I’m going trough knowing that all of this is over.

Thank you very much if you would like to take the time to help me.

Lila

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Hanger0n · 14/07/2021 15:11

Sone people call this dodging a bullet.

me4real · 14/07/2021 15:15

You've done 100% the right thing @Lila1990 .

A bloke that uses/used prostitutes? Sad I think that's a bad sign that a bloke is obsessed or seedy when it comes to sex. Usually a bloke that's seen prostitutes will do other stuff, too, as is the case with your partner.

Please block him on everything as soon as you can, so you don't get back involved with him again. If he comes round, don't answer the door.

Well done for getting rid of him.

Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:17

Can you explain me better? As English is not my first language. Do you mean I have escaped the situation instead of solving it ? Because it is literally one year that I have started to discover the lies and we’ve had some massive arguments.. everytime he told me that I knew all the truth and there’s no more lies to discover but I always find some new ones.. he promised me the fake millions of time looking at me in the eyes

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Ruby0707 · 14/07/2021 15:19

You have seen him for who he is and you have 100% done the right thing by getting out of the relationship. Not all men are like this no and you deserve better x

Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:21

Thanks for your help!

Prostitution was the biggest deal breaker for me… I told this to him since day 1 (literally on our first date). We used to live together in England for 2 years and now I have just came back to my home country… I literally lost everything in only few days and I’m feeling dead. I am sad because before I started to discover the lies we were the most perfect match, in fact I love with ALL MY HEART the person he shown me to be, as it was a super special person with thousands of positive qualities…. Shame that he wasn’t the real him. I have to start to accept the truth I guess

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WiseUpJanetWeiss · 14/07/2021 15:22

Dodging a bullet is a good thing. It means you’ve made a very skilled or very lucky escape.

It’s only natural you’ll be grieving the relationship you hoped you had, but you have definitely done the right thing. You would never have been happy with him and you deserve respect, which he did not give to you.

Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:23

Thank you ❤️ At the moment I’m hating them all ! But yeah you’re right.. I’m sure there’s someone honest out there. I will just need years to recover from this and find someone else.

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category12 · 14/07/2021 15:23

Dodging a bullet means a lucky escape.

It's good you have found out that he's a liar at this stage.

This is not something you can "solve", because you know he lies and lies.

You are only 31, you have time to find someone you can trust to have children with.

Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:25

Thank you.. I am just sorry I had to go trough his phone. I hate that! However I would never have known things if I didn’t…I just always had this gut feeling!

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Stillfunny · 14/07/2021 15:30

He will always be a liar. And you could never have trusted him. You will find a kind decent honourable man and be glad .

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 14/07/2021 15:31

This is NOT the man you want to marry and have children with - I assure you. It hurts now, but it’s for the best as now you are free to find someone more suitable as a life partner.

You summed it up when you said He got upset because “the past is the past” and I cannot “deal with his past”. What about if I never had the chance to deal with his past as it was hidden from me for 3 years?

Without honesty and trust there is no relationship.

Even with honesty, when you’re looking for the future father of your children, a drug using, prostitute using, racist liar is not top of the list for most people!

You’ve had a lucky escape. Grieve the man you wish he was and move on Flowers

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 14/07/2021 15:32

You can trust yourself - you have good intuition. Don’t feel bad for relying on it because it told you something important and you listened.

Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:34

Thank you ❤️ This gives me some hope.. I just didn’t know that liars can be so kind and treat you like a princess for 3 years! So that’s why it was so hard to make this choice

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markmichelle · 14/07/2021 15:34

All men are not like this.
You have done what you have because there were no other ways for you to continue YOUR life.
He lied and deceived so much that you had to check his phone and background.
He lied about wanting to change. It was HE who Failed, not you.
Your attempts to try again have been heroic.
The disconnection was caused by him and you really will be better off without him. Keep to it.
Do not please have him back for one more try. You already know what will happen.
Best Wishes

Muchasgracias · 14/07/2021 15:36

You are not compatible and have very different value systems.

Its very sad and frustrating to find this out now after 3 years of investing in the relationship, but you need to accept its over and that it's time to move on. Allow yourself a bit of time to grieve for what you've lost and go over events, but then draw a line on this (analysing the whole relationship will drive you nuts and won't change anything) and get back out there and enjoy life. You are still young.

Drinkingallthewine · 14/07/2021 15:38

Sometimes it doesn't matter what the lie is - just that there IS lies.

And in your case there was so many lies- right from the very first date, he lied.
He lied to pretend to be a man he was not. So how can you spend your life with a man you now realise you don't really know? How could you raise a family with a man who was faking who he is?

So lying was bad enough, but lying to you about his attitude towards prostitution, lying about availing of women who may well have been abused, raped and trafficked. We can only hope that it was at least women and not children he used because men who go to Thailand for sex it's often to go as young as possible with their victims. This, I could never get past, ever.

And the final one - lying about his sexual past - I would not get past that either.

You did the right thing. And you will recover quicker than you expect.

SarahDarah · 14/07/2021 15:39

Good grief you're well rid of him, you absolutely made the right decision. Make sure you get a STI check though ASAP and keep up to date with your cervical smears.

Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:40

Thank you very much your comment was really helpful… at least this relationship taught me that intuition really exists! I had other 2 boyfriends in the past and it ended because of differences in personalities (I was arguing a lot with my exes) but I never had any gut feeling. This last boyfriend instead, was perfect! We almost never argued (before I started to discover the lies), we liked all the same things and he really was my best friend, he was really supportive on everything I have to admit. HOWEVER I just couldn’t shake the terrible gut feeling I had on him!! After 2 years I started to notice some discrepancies in his stories from the past.. that’s when I checked his phone. Plus the lies on his occasions cocaine use of course. I’m literally dead this days, however tomorrow I’m gonna see a therapist and hopefully I will get over this soon. Thanks again

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Ritascornershop · 14/07/2021 15:42

I also think that anyone who has had 300-400 sexual partners has a problem with sex, possibly an addiction.

Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:42

Ps about the prostitutes, when I discovered it few days ago he was really embarrassed and told me that was the reason why he always denied, but the he added “well a lot more men than you think have been with prostitutes it’s common!” So he basically minimised the problem

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ArchbishopOfBanterbury · 14/07/2021 15:46

He sounds awful.

Are you sure you've found out the truth, and your sources are being 100% honest? If so, congratulations. It sounds like you have dodged a bullet.

Even if not, if you don't trust him, you definitely shouldn't be having a baby with him.

Ritascornershop · 14/07/2021 15:46

I had a long relationship with someone who was also my best friend, my cheerleader, so kind and thoughtful ... and he lied all the bloody time about things which mattered and did not matter. Often to big himself up, but often just because he was in the habit of it. It really messed with my sense of what is real and what is not, and now I have big problems trusting anything anyone says. I never knew people could be like that and it was not a nice awakening. I’ve come to the conclusion that healthy best friends don’t lie all the time.

Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:47

Thank you very much! I completely agree !! That’s why I am so so scared and I hate prostitution with all my heart! He was 21 when he’s been to Thailand.. but I know there are many underage prostitutes there, they are basically children. This makes me sick in my heart I honestly feel so disgusted and shocked and so so angry… about the prostitutes in Thailand he denied… but I’ve seen messages there were quite ambiguous. On top of that he also had a girlfriend at the time. I feel like I want to kill him honestly

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Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:50

Well for sure.. he was quite “aggressive” in bed in the beginning as well.. I had to teach him to be more passionate! He definitely had the highest sex drive, but I am also like this in this aspect so it wasn’t a problem for me. However this explains a lot of things.. I’m just so disgusted about his use of prostitutes as well

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Lila1990 · 14/07/2021 15:52

I am sure 100% unfortunately.. we’ll definitely not. I’m not going back and I came back to my home country as well as I couldn’t cope with the break up away from my family

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