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Worried about being awkward DIL

54 replies

Dinodeen · 21/06/2021 18:15

I’m posting as I’m so wracked with anxiety about this and want to be reasonable!

I am pregnant- first grandchild for both sides. Both sides over the moon.

My MIL has put a lot of pressure on us for years to ‘give’ her a grandchild and FIL also said ‘get on with it’. They have made ‘jokes’ before about giving them the baby half the week. They live 20 miles away and have form for being upset if we don’t see them often enough, call etc.

I’m extremely anxious about how intrusive they will be once baby is here. My BIL made jokes about how my MIL will refuse to leave our house, MIL is talking about getting a car seat for their car and cot for their house, it all feels too much and like plans are being made for my baby without me. Well my MIL said ‘oh I’ve got it all planned out’ about how it will be once baby is here but she’s not shared those plans with DH or I!

I don’t know if this is too prescriptive:

I am envisioning one grandparents visit once baby born, then no one for two weeks whilst DH is on leave. Then grandparents can come visit 1-2 times a week, probably won’t be visiting theirs much as too much effort to lug everything in the car.
Probably wider family visit and have a ‘sip and see’ around the 4-6 week point if I know which way is up again. Then hopefully slip down to seeing grandparents 1 times a fortnight.

Then once baby is 9 months and back in work we will visit in laws probably once a month.
My parents live nearby and have promised a one day a week childcare commitment.
Would take same off PIL but this would mean FIL knocking down a day at work as MIL doesn’t drive. It would also mean 80 miles driving for baby for them to collect baby, go back to theirs, and then bring them back- is this too much for a baby under 1?! We can afford nursery no problem so it’s not really for our benefit as much as bonding with grandparents.

I feel like the problem is if my parents are too much I can tell them to bugger off and they won’t be offended, and they are so close I can basically give them a buzz once baby is settled so they can nip around for a cuddle. They are also very practical people and would 100% whizz the hoover around and stock my freezer. PIL are very well meaning but they also have form for promising help that never appears- I can see right now that their idea of ‘help’ will be holding baby and sending me for a nap after I’ve already served them tea and biscuits. They have also held resentments for months before over arrangements that they didn’t like- instead of just saying so! (Sorry example is Christmas- weren’t happy with the plans we offered but said nothing until the new year when it had all been and Gone!) PIL will see their arse and then ring crying asking why we are withholding grandchild from them if we say it’s not a good day. Due to distance they will also be hard - pressed to ‘Bob’ at a good time.

I’m honestly a bit of a mess worrying. DH has my back and says he will tell his parents we are knackered, no visits today etc but I think it’s easy to say now- when I’m a bleeding milky mess it’s going to be harder to field all this.
He is going to try speak to them and do some expectation setting.

His mum gives the impression that she is going to be a super involved grandma like her own mum was- but own mum lived around the corner from her! I think the reality that once things have settled they will only see the baby once a month or so is going to be devastating for them.

I suppose I’m wondering- am I unreasonable?! It’s hard to tell with them what’s normal grandparent excitement and what’s too much.
Any tips from people who’ve had very enthusiastic MILS?

OP posts:
category12 · 21/06/2021 18:37

20 miles isn't very far - your baby would be fine - it wouldn't be 80 miles for your baby, surely? It might be 80 miles for the grandparents, but your child would only be going from yours to granny and back again so 40 miles broken down into 2 (approx 20 minute?) journeys?

I think expectation setting is a good idea, but they might be better than you think.

dreamsarefree · 21/06/2021 18:41

Try not to get ahead of yourself but it's way too early to be so prescriptive with a visitor's schedule. You've no idea how things are going to go and overbearing or not, you may find when the time comes that you want to see people more and it will create more anxiety having such a rigid view of what you think would be best now Flowers

Namechercanged · 21/06/2021 18:42

Could they not look after baby at your house one day per week instead of driving back to theirs? If you're both keen for it to happen, then it is a convenient way for grandparents to see grandchildren without a weekend impact.

You seem quite rigid in your approach to the 2 weeks post birth. You have no idea how you will feel. If you tell them the plan now, you may come across as crazy DIL. Far better to see how you are and play it by ear a bit, but with a firm no if you don't want visitors.

superram · 21/06/2021 18:44

I think once a month is a bit mean. You are being too prescriptive. See what happens, if it’s too much then back away. If they look after your baby it would make sense to do it in your house so baby wouldn’t need to travel. I’d get your dh on board as it will be him that needs to tell them to back off, not you.

Sexnotgender · 21/06/2021 18:46

Do not let the in-laws railroad you into something you don’t want. Be utterly non committal about visiting and play it by ear once baby is here.
Keep strong boundaries. This is time you will never get back. Your parents and in-laws have both had their turn, this is yours. Don’t let them take over.

Nsky · 21/06/2021 18:48

Best to invite your PIL over at set times, 160 miles is too much in 1 day for a baby.
Any possibility they can stay at your parents or nearby

category12 · 21/06/2021 18:52

It's nowhere near 160 miles in a day for the baby. The in-laws live 20 miles away.

IrEl · 21/06/2021 18:57

Yes, far too prescriptive. You have no idea what you and her will feel like when baby is here. As long as your husband has your back then you can manage that when baby is here.

20 miles is nothing. Why can’t she look after baby at yours? Although nursery is probably a better option as I’m not sure you’d really enjoy someone you clearly have issues with having responsibility for the most precious thing in your world.

ApplesandBananas21 · 21/06/2021 19:00

How far are you?

It would be 40 miles for the baby which is approx 20mins there and 20mins back, this is fine.

Grandparents bought car seat and cot for their house, this wasn't an issue and tbh saved the faff of having to take these in and out if they were to have him over night.
Maybe because they didn't tell you personally you've took this the wrong way maybe

Seeing grandparents once a month is pretty harsh to me.
And for them to look at your baby and offer you a nap, will honestly at the time be the best thing ever! You need to grab sleep when you can.

Your minds racing right now and I think you need to just take it back abit because you could end up feeling totally different once baby is here and want a helping hand.

noidontneedyourhelpthanks · 21/06/2021 19:01

I understand why you are as it sounds very full on but try not to worry about it just yet op. It's normal for first time grandparents to be very excited but you may find it's not too bad or you are even glad of the company/help (I know probably wishful thinking with mil) once baby is here. Focus on enjoying your pregnancy for now x

BackforGood · 21/06/2021 19:02

Relax!

You are being ridiculously over-prescriptive.
You have no idea

  • what your birth will be like
  • what you will feel like afterwards
  • what sort of a sleeper the baby will be
  • whether you will get on with breast feeding
  • whether the baby will be well
  • whether the baby will be colic-y
  • how you will take to looking after a baby at home
etc., etc., etc Whether your dh might actually like to share his excitement at being a Dad with his parents in those first couple of weeks doesn't seem to have been mentioned.

Wait and see.

Onceuponatime1818 · 21/06/2021 19:05

You’re totally overthinking something that’s not even happened yet! I wouldn’t give any more head space for now. I would also be happy they want to be included and any extra pair of hands to hold/cuddle baby while you nap/shower/eat/ pop out may be most welcome once baby is here!

Idontgiveagriffindamn · 21/06/2021 19:07

@BackforGood

Relax!

You are being ridiculously over-prescriptive.
You have no idea

  • what your birth will be like
  • what you will feel like afterwards
  • what sort of a sleeper the baby will be
  • whether you will get on with breast feeding
  • whether the baby will be well
  • whether the baby will be colic-y
  • how you will take to looking after a baby at home
etc., etc., etc Whether your dh might actually like to share his excitement at being a Dad with his parents in those first couple of weeks doesn't seem to have been mentioned.

Wait and see.

This!
Cannes12 · 21/06/2021 19:09

I can see why you're worried but you have no idea at the moment what it's like to have a newborn.
It may be you want a lot more support than you think.

Choice4567 · 21/06/2021 19:11

I’m sorry to say but you really can’t plan to this degree!

ketchuponpizza · 21/06/2021 19:13

@BackforGood

Relax!

You are being ridiculously over-prescriptive.
You have no idea

  • what your birth will be like
  • what you will feel like afterwards
  • what sort of a sleeper the baby will be
  • whether you will get on with breast feeding
  • whether the baby will be well
  • whether the baby will be colic-y
  • how you will take to looking after a baby at home
etc., etc., etc Whether your dh might actually like to share his excitement at being a Dad with his parents in those first couple of weeks doesn't seem to have been mentioned.

Wait and see.

This!

The thing with our mums, is that we have experienced their parenting style first hand. With MIL, or indeed PIL, it's a whole new ballgame.

Try not to worry. What will be, will be.

And grandparents who babysit... THE DREAM! I would facilitate a close bond now so you can have stress free time out when DC is older...

Lightswitchesoffatnight · 21/06/2021 19:18

I well remember, not so long ago, a long thread on here berating grandparents for not doing enough with the children. The thread was titled something like "Grandparents really need to step up". There was a lot of support for the sentiment.

@Dinodeen I think you should chill and wait and see what happens. I don't blame the prospective grandparents for being so excited but the reality of looking after babies and small children isn't quite so exciting. I would guess they calm down once the baby is here.

Remember as well, that your ILs and your parents are equally grandparents to your baby.

Dinodeen · 21/06/2021 19:19

@superram

I think once a month is a bit mean. You are being too prescriptive. See what happens, if it’s too much then back away. If they look after your baby it would make sense to do it in your house so baby wouldn’t need to travel. I’d get your dh on board as it will be him that needs to tell them to back off, not you.
It’s not that I want to restrict to once a month, but when I’m back in work I don’t want the pressure to have to go around every Sunday when we probably will just be trying to keep the house tidy and (maybe even) have a little bit of sleep.

I don’t know if it makes a difference but the twenty miles is across major motorway, opposite sides of big city so absolute carnage at commute times.

Ideally wouldn’t have them doing childcare at our house as DH WFH and has client meetings.

OP posts:
ravenmum · 21/06/2021 19:22

MIL is talking about getting a car seat for their car and cot for their house
This is actually just really practical. My mum did this with my nephews and nieces and she was not even a massively involved grandparent. My in-laws lived a 4-hour drive away and did the same. It meant no-one had to cart beds everywhere or remove car seats (can be hard on a hot day), that's all.

By the 80 miles you mean the gps would have the baby 2 days a month, 2 visits of 20 miles either way? Doesn't seem a huge amount? Just driving to the GP etc will rack up more than 80 miles if you're going to add it up over the month. But if you don't fancy it later, I'd just say so when the time comes. No need to make it into an argument, just say "Ah no, baby's had enough driving this month, why don't you just pop over for a few hours" for example. The short distance means they can be really flexible and just go when you are fed up with them

ravenmum · 21/06/2021 19:23

Ideally wouldn’t have them doing childcare at our house as DH WFH and has client meetings.
So baby will have to be out of the house?

Dinodeen · 21/06/2021 19:24

Thank you for the reassuring comments- I do generally get on with PIL but they can be quite full on anyway. My DH obviously does want them to be involved just like mine will be but the practicality of them living on the opposite side of the city will have an impact- they recently moved over there from around here if that makes more sense, so DH thinks they can’t expect us to be doing the drive when we have a small child as they chose to move from around the corner to there.

OP posts:
Dinodeen · 21/06/2021 19:25

@ravenmum

Ideally wouldn’t have them doing childcare at our house as DH WFH and has client meetings. So baby will have to be out of the house?
Once we are both back at work, yes. Whilst I’m on Mat leave he is going to try some clever scheduling.
OP posts:
yourestandingonmyneck · 21/06/2021 19:27

You're being way over the top and unrealistic. I think you need to calm down massively - there are far too many variables at play and you have no idea how things are going to pan out.

For the moment just enjoy your pregnancy and be happy that your baby has extended family who love him/her.

Disfordarkchocolate · 21/06/2021 19:27

Honestly do not give anyone the impression that you will see them a couple of times a week when you are on maternity leave. It will take over your time and lead to expectations of future contact.

ravenmum · 21/06/2021 19:28

Good to hear that DH is not going along with whatever his parents suggest, that is an excellent attitude in a husband :)
My in-laws were the closest relatives at 4h away. My parents were in another country. The kids went on their first flights at about age 1. It was fine :)

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