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I don't know what to make of this. Is DP a dick or is my sister being ott.

117 replies

PigBiscuit · 11/06/2021 15:17

Today my sister said it really irritates her how my boyfriend openly flirts with my best friend on facebook. I can see the comments, they don't bother me. My DD chimed in and said when we went out for dinner this week she caught him looking at my bestfriends boobs. I have to admit, I don't really care about either. It just doesn't bother me, men look at other women and she is an attractive woman she also had a top on that had hearts on the nipples so it does grab your attention. I am a pretty laid back person and i feel that both my boyfriend and best friend are more aware than anyone else the hardships I have experienced over the years especially with my ex and I genuinely trust my boyfriend. I don't think he would cheat on me and I don't think either one would intentionally hurt me.......but maybe I am too trusting? Maybe they have just become a bit too familiar with one another? Maybe I am totally naïve and there is something going on? I was just happy that they got on and we all hang out together and its really easy and laid back, my bezzie hated my ex and it caused loads fo arguemtns. I feel like this has made me question everything. Less so about my boyfriend/bestfriend and more so about me. I am just judging everything and going over every convo I've had with my best friend recently.
My boyfriend is a pretty flirty person, he has always been this way. It was actually one of the things I like about him most, he is funny and silly and loves attention from anyone- that however doesn't = a cheat and he has never given me any reason to not trust him. He is just a super friendly person.
I am 6 months pregnant so feeling pretty self conscious about the way I look and these comments have knocked me for 6. My best friend is very pretty, confident and well put together so equally next to her I look homeless, I scrub up ok but I don't tend to make much effort with my day to day appearance- she always looks pristine. Every time I tried to explain stuff or give more context to my sister I just made things worse. I just sat there in a room whilst everyone else tore my relationship apart and right now I feel empty and alone. Dsis made me feel like I obviously don't have any self respect. Said if her DP did the same he's lop his man hood off with a knife......those kind of joyus comments. My boyfriend and I don't have a conventional relationship- we don't live together so have he stays here part of the week and at his the rest. People don't get it. We have been together many years. But it works for us and he plans to move in before the baby arrives. Others have always been very critical of this.
The 2 people I would usually turn to and talk things through with are out of bounds because they are the accused and I am sat here crying.

Yesterday I waddled out of tesco with the weekly shop thinking how lucky I am. How life is finally coming together. I felt particularly lucky to have my boyfriend and my best friend and now I just feel stupid. I think if my sister and DD see their comments on facebook and are making these judgements then what the hell does the rest of the world think?
I wonder if I am just unlovable. My ex damaged me so much. I don't really know what a healthy relationship looks like. I thought what me and my boyfriend had was good but maybe I am deluded.
Equally it feels like every time I am happy someone wants to come along and shit of my party. I feel like shutting myself off from everyone and just doing my own thing because other people just let me down and hurt me constantly and right now I have no resilience to any of it.

I don't think my sister should have made any comments in front of DD. And now DD wants to say something to my boyfriend, I told her that is fine but not to drag me into it. I just don't know how to deal with this. I don't know how to feel or what to do. It has really upset me. I don't even know which part has upset me. I am just sick of my life constantly being picked apart by others equally now I am questioning if I am just totally stupid.

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worriedatthemoment · 11/06/2021 17:44

Probably not the best site to ask on as mn can be from one extreme to the other
If someone was wearing a top like you describe most would prob look men and women, looking and leering are very different
If Tom Hardy walked passed my I would prob look
But yes worth mentioning if your daughter felt uncomfortable
Again I am sort of person like you and not so bothered by harmless flirting and if ny dh glanced at someone in a lie cut top as its not the same as oggling ,
Don't think it was appropriate of your sister to bring up in front of your dd either

Zari29 · 11/06/2021 17:45

I think your 13yo daughter has more sense than you. If she noticed that then how grim is that. Agree with pp, you are trying hard to justify his flirty ways. I don't know anyone who would enjoy a flirt as a partner.

worriedatthemoment · 11/06/2021 17:48

@Zari29 why be mean , op said she doesn't see it as flirty
I mean her sister even queried Op dp liking her friends comments as inappropriate

worriedatthemoment · 11/06/2021 17:49

Op do you have any other friends you could ask to give you an honest opinion?

HumunaHey · 11/06/2021 18:07

Can you give actual examples of comments he has made on her FB that have irritated your sister?

LadyCatStark · 11/06/2021 18:09

It sounds like you have him on a pedestal and are making an awful lots of excuses for him! Your DD has expressed at least twice that she thinks his behaviour is inappropriate which must be a big thing for her to do, so I’d listen if I was you!

Aprilx · 11/06/2021 18:21

Unless your sister and daughter are prone to making things up or over reacting, then as they have both commented that there is something not quite right with your partners behaviour,, I would have to entertain the idea that there is something not quite right with your partner’s behaviour.

I don’t know if you really are not seeing something or if you are trying a bit too hard to be a cool wife.

RedBonnet · 11/06/2021 18:22

Do you think your sister could be jealous of your happiness?

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 11/06/2021 18:26

Is your sister the kind of woman who thinks that men are only friendly to women if they want to fuck them?

Because her comments about cutting off her partners balls if he commented on a female friends Facebook posts in a friendly way is a bit... 🤨

You know what's been said, we don't. But it doesn't sound like you find it inappropriate or flirty. You are the one in your relationship, so you (and your dp) make the rules. Your sister doesn't get a vote.

Sometimesfraught82 · 11/06/2021 18:26

Ive told DD if she is upset then she should let him know

No. Words.

Sometimesfraught82 · 11/06/2021 18:28

How long have you been together?

Standrewsschool · 11/06/2021 18:32

Tbh, if I saw someone wearing a top with hearts on the nipples,I think I would look also.

ginoclocksomewhere · 11/06/2021 18:38

@KurtWilde

Honestly OP if it's all fine with you and you're comfortable and happy in your relationship then it's your sister that's the issue and SHE needs to rein it in. Some people just like to piss on your chips, it's just a shame she couldn't keep her unsupportive comments to herself instead of causing drama where it's not needed.
This. Your sister sounds like a dick, tbh. You've told her it doesn't bother you and she continues to make it an issue. No she's making you doubt yourself.
Faevern · 11/06/2021 18:39

I agree with StAndrews it’s hard not to look if someone has hearts on their nipples. Is this the only time your DD saw him looking?

I can’t comment on the flirting as you haven’t given any examples. But you’ve been together a long time and your DP sounds very supportive, does your DSis not see any of that?

Hoppinggreen · 11/06/2021 18:40

@Nocutenamesleft

So I’m quite unique. Like you. I don’t get jealous. Something just turned one day when I was about 19 and boom. Never felt it again. I just find it’s such a useless emotion so I don’t spend time on it. But people find it weird. My husband could be naked in bed with another woman and I’d trust him to the end of the earth. Even if she was on his list. Wouldn’t bother me. But I understand why people think it’s strange. In fact I find it a huge compliment when others chat him up! Or send him flirty messages. It doesn’t bother me. He’s never ever stepped over the line. Not even once. He does know that if he ever did cheat. That would be it. He says he finds it the most attractive part of me is the fact that I’m confident like that and that I don’t stand for anyone’s crap. But he also finds the fact that I’m not jealous attractive too.

So I get how you feel. If you ever want a friendly ear. Im here for you

Own who you are! You sound like a wonderful person who is complete in their lives. Ignore the haters. It’s usually jealously that starts those conversations! They probably feel jealous that you are the way you are!

Wow, you are so cool
AnImposter · 11/06/2021 18:49

I think if my 13 year old daughter brought up behaviour that SHE thought was sexually inappropriate I'd be paying a bit more attention to that.. whether I thought so or not.

OrangeSharked · 11/06/2021 18:52

I think if someone was wearing a top with hearts on the nipples I'd also look!

Look you felt happy and secure until your sister said anything. You've been together years and she's chosen now when your 6 months pregnant to tell you she doesn't like his behaviour? Is your sister trustworthy or is she jealous? Do you genuinely not see anything in the Facebook posts?

SunshineCake · 11/06/2021 18:52

I think it is a bit different a straight woman looking at another woman's top because it has eye catching pictures on it, than a straight man looking at the woman.

Everydayisawindingroad · 11/06/2021 18:53

@VimFuego101

Your partner doesn't seem to respect you much if he does this openly in front of you.
This
OrangeSharked · 11/06/2021 18:58

Your sister also chose a time when your 13 year old daughter was around. It doesn't really scream concerned for their sisters welfare tbh.

13 year olds can misread things. If she's been having a hard time this year its possible shes feeling insecure and reflecting this back on your relationship.

Its very hard to say really as we don't know the people. I agree you should speak to your DP, explain that your Dd feels uncomfortable and ask if he could reign it in a little around your best friend. How he reacts to that and acts from then on will give you your answer I reckon

Faevern · 11/06/2021 19:01

@SunshineCake

I think it is a bit different a straight woman looking at another woman's top because it has eye catching pictures on it, than a straight man looking at the woman.
Why?

I said I would look I didn’t say I was straight.

GertietheGherkin · 11/06/2021 19:06

@SpaceshiptoMars

I'd ask dd if there is anything she needs to make her more comfortable with moving dp in. Lock on bedroom door, bathroom door? Is she getting hassle from the lads at school - upskirting, groping, comments she can't handle? Is she worried about more of the same at home?
Blimey! That's one Hell of a stretch. 🙄
SunshineCake · 11/06/2021 19:07

It's obvious why.

SunshineCake · 11/06/2021 19:08

And you are.

TotorosCatBus · 11/06/2021 19:22

Those sorts of tops draw my eyes to the nipples too. However I would catch myself and stop looking and definitely not look again.

While a 13yo has lots to learn about relationships she is right to think that looking at another woman's boobs isn't a good sign. If he really embarrassed that she noticed tbh It sounds like your bf loves you and is committed to you but he sounds sleazy rather than flirty. You and him are role modeling relationships for your dd whether you like it or not

As for the social media- I have male friends who use x on their message to me but there is absolutely no sexual and romantic feelings on either side. They are happily in love and I am happily single. It's hard to say if he's being inappropriate without examples