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I don't know what to make of this. Is DP a dick or is my sister being ott.

117 replies

PigBiscuit · 11/06/2021 15:17

Today my sister said it really irritates her how my boyfriend openly flirts with my best friend on facebook. I can see the comments, they don't bother me. My DD chimed in and said when we went out for dinner this week she caught him looking at my bestfriends boobs. I have to admit, I don't really care about either. It just doesn't bother me, men look at other women and she is an attractive woman she also had a top on that had hearts on the nipples so it does grab your attention. I am a pretty laid back person and i feel that both my boyfriend and best friend are more aware than anyone else the hardships I have experienced over the years especially with my ex and I genuinely trust my boyfriend. I don't think he would cheat on me and I don't think either one would intentionally hurt me.......but maybe I am too trusting? Maybe they have just become a bit too familiar with one another? Maybe I am totally naïve and there is something going on? I was just happy that they got on and we all hang out together and its really easy and laid back, my bezzie hated my ex and it caused loads fo arguemtns. I feel like this has made me question everything. Less so about my boyfriend/bestfriend and more so about me. I am just judging everything and going over every convo I've had with my best friend recently.
My boyfriend is a pretty flirty person, he has always been this way. It was actually one of the things I like about him most, he is funny and silly and loves attention from anyone- that however doesn't = a cheat and he has never given me any reason to not trust him. He is just a super friendly person.
I am 6 months pregnant so feeling pretty self conscious about the way I look and these comments have knocked me for 6. My best friend is very pretty, confident and well put together so equally next to her I look homeless, I scrub up ok but I don't tend to make much effort with my day to day appearance- she always looks pristine. Every time I tried to explain stuff or give more context to my sister I just made things worse. I just sat there in a room whilst everyone else tore my relationship apart and right now I feel empty and alone. Dsis made me feel like I obviously don't have any self respect. Said if her DP did the same he's lop his man hood off with a knife......those kind of joyus comments. My boyfriend and I don't have a conventional relationship- we don't live together so have he stays here part of the week and at his the rest. People don't get it. We have been together many years. But it works for us and he plans to move in before the baby arrives. Others have always been very critical of this.
The 2 people I would usually turn to and talk things through with are out of bounds because they are the accused and I am sat here crying.

Yesterday I waddled out of tesco with the weekly shop thinking how lucky I am. How life is finally coming together. I felt particularly lucky to have my boyfriend and my best friend and now I just feel stupid. I think if my sister and DD see their comments on facebook and are making these judgements then what the hell does the rest of the world think?
I wonder if I am just unlovable. My ex damaged me so much. I don't really know what a healthy relationship looks like. I thought what me and my boyfriend had was good but maybe I am deluded.
Equally it feels like every time I am happy someone wants to come along and shit of my party. I feel like shutting myself off from everyone and just doing my own thing because other people just let me down and hurt me constantly and right now I have no resilience to any of it.

I don't think my sister should have made any comments in front of DD. And now DD wants to say something to my boyfriend, I told her that is fine but not to drag me into it. I just don't know how to deal with this. I don't know how to feel or what to do. It has really upset me. I don't even know which part has upset me. I am just sick of my life constantly being picked apart by others equally now I am questioning if I am just totally stupid.

OP posts:
PigBiscuit · 11/06/2021 16:10

this whole conversation was sparked by my sister because DP made a post about being stuck in traffic and my friend liked it......then she said they are always liking and commenting on each other posts.

I keep thinking do I say something to him and just say rein it in? But I don't think he is really doing anything wrong. I've just spent ages scrolling through each of their pages and feel pathetic because there isn't really anything there of any consequence.

I've told DD if she is upset then she should let him know so perhaps I will see what he says to that and talk to him this evening. I know he will be very chilled with her and sort it out.

OP posts:
KurtWilde · 11/06/2021 16:13

Honestly OP if it's all fine with you and you're comfortable and happy in your relationship then it's your sister that's the issue and SHE needs to rein it in. Some people just like to piss on your chips, it's just a shame she couldn't keep her unsupportive comments to herself instead of causing drama where it's not needed.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 11/06/2021 16:13

I think it's more inappropriate to tell someone in front of their 13 year old that their boyfriend looked at someone's tits than it is to look at someone's tits. The fact your sister said this in front of your daughter is such a dick move it makes me think she sounds like a bit of a drama llama who loves an audience...

AltiC · 11/06/2021 16:14

He sounds lovely, supportive and fun, you were happy until other people butted in with unsolicited opinions... Ignore the other people, carry on being happy!

GertietheGherkin · 11/06/2021 16:14

Good Lord 😮 OP I think you sound very sensible. All these comments about him being disrespectful, and a creep are just ridiculous. You are in a relationship with your DP, you know him well enough to choose to have a baby with him.
Men and women naturally look at each other... If we all walked around with blinkers, how would we ever meet our significant others?
You know your best friend, if she's attractive men will look, and so will your DP!
It's even more likely if she's got a top on with two hearts covering her nipples on it. If she's single, she may be hoping to catch the eye of males... That doesn't mean she's dressing in such a way to lure away your DP.
I'm not sure what your DS is playing at, she's seems to be lighting fires, to produce smoke, with no need to do so.

Her making comments in front of your DD has caused friction there too. I don't really think your DD should be discussing the situation with your DP is called for... If you have concerns that's different.

You sound very happy, sensible and grounded OP. Don't let others poison cause upset. I guess now your DD has created a situation, it's going to mean yourself and your DP are going to have to discuss the situation. Get your answers and reassurance from him.
All the best with the baby, you really don't need all of this upset now. Bless you xx

EverythingRuined · 11/06/2021 16:20

I've told DD if she is upset then she should let him know so perhaps I will see what he says to that and talk to him this evening

Blimey, that's not what I would do. If he is doing it so blatantly that your daughter has noticed then I'd be treating it as a actual problem and not just him being 'silly and immature'. I think you should talk to him not your daughter. Personally I'd ask him to reign it. For him to do it in front of your daughter is a bit gross TBH.

Beautiful3 · 11/06/2021 16:21

I honestly dont know, no-one knows, but them. Tell him that you daughter and sister have talked about his flirting and ask if there's anything in it. If he seems shocked and laughs, then you know its all okay. If he gets angry and defensive, then you know there's an element of truth.

pog100 · 11/06/2021 16:22

You need to trust your own feelings. You are the only one that it really matters to and you are the only one that can really judge. All the people on here, and your sister and daughter have their own opinions but they are of much less consequence then yours. I know your said your ex damaged you, but part of the healing is to trust yourself. He sounds like a pretty good bloke to me. Not to everyone's taste but he is to yours. Just get on with it!

kurtney · 11/06/2021 16:24

@youvegottenminuteslynn

I think it's more inappropriate to tell someone in front of their 13 year old that their boyfriend looked at someone's tits than it is to look at someone's tits. The fact your sister said this in front of your daughter is such a dick move it makes me think she sounds like a bit of a drama llama who loves an audience...
From the OP:

My DD chimed in and said when we went out for dinner this week she caught him looking at my bestfriends boobs

OP's DSis made a comment about DP flirting which looks like it gave DD an opportunity to mention that she caught him looking at friend's boobs.

aSofaNearYou · 11/06/2021 16:26

All these comments about him being disrespectful, and a creep are just ridiculous. You are in a relationship with your DP, you know him well enough to choose to have a baby with him.
Men and women naturally look at each other...

I do think it can be pretty disrespectful to keep staring at someone's boobs beyond just a cursory glance. OP has since clarified that she doesn't think he's that bad for it but I don't see what is ridiculous about saying that is disrespectful?

SpaceshiptoMars · 11/06/2021 16:26

You're making significant changes in your life. Soon to have a baby, soon your dp will be moving in with you. These changes impact others - your sister, your daughter.

People push back in odd ways when they see their comfy old life being threatened. How will a new baby affect your sister? Your daughter? Is your daughter anxious about dp moving in?

Sometimes people stir it up to try and prevent changes they don't want.

Hoppinggreen · 11/06/2021 16:28

So your daughter and sister think he’s a sleaze but you are justifying it.
I suppose with a baby on the way you can’t really afford to see him for what he really is

Greenspleen · 11/06/2021 16:28

How do you normally get on with your sister?

Lollypop701 · 11/06/2021 16:30

Your dsis shouldnt have had that discussion in front on your dd tbh.if she’s concerned she could have spoken to you separately. With regards to staring at boobs, I’m straight but find it hard not to look when I see girls out with lots of side or under boob on show…,if someone has their body on show then it happens. The only thing I would say is if the situation were reversed and you had a similar relationship with Dp best friend, or bf boyfriend would that be ok with him/her? Just wondering!

KurtWilde · 11/06/2021 16:38

@Hoppinggreen

So your daughter and sister think he’s a sleaze but you are justifying it. I suppose with a baby on the way you can’t really afford to see him for what he really is
Oh lay off.
Doodlebug71 · 11/06/2021 16:43

@Lollypop701 So OP's daughter shouldn't be allowed to express her concerns about her mum's partner? When a 13 year-old girl is picking up on creepy/inappropriate behaviour, the inappropriate behaviour needs dealing with, not the people noticing it.

OP, your daughter has told you what she's seen. Your partner is presumably not her dad, but as your DP, is supposed to be a role model for your daughter. It sounds as if he's being the complete opposite.

FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack · 11/06/2021 16:43

I've told DD if she is upset then she should let him know so perhaps I will see what he says to that and talk to him this evening.

This seems a lot to put on a 13 year old girl. If you're not comfortable raising it yourself it's not fair to expect her to do it.

Doodlebug71 · 11/06/2021 16:47

@Hoppinggreen

So your daughter and sister think he’s a sleaze but you are justifying it. I suppose with a baby on the way you can’t really afford to see him for what he really is
This. Your teen daughter has told you what she's seen. Is this man a good role model, or not?

@KurtWilde: Lay off what, precisely?

Sometimesfraught82 · 11/06/2021 16:47

Sorry if missed
How old is your DD

Bellringer · 11/06/2021 16:47

Sister jealous?

Sometimesfraught82 · 11/06/2021 16:47

13

Sometimesfraught82 · 11/06/2021 16:47

My goodness op

You’re 13 year old Sad

Sometimesfraught82 · 11/06/2021 16:48

Your

Sometimesfraught82 · 11/06/2021 16:48

Although this entire scenario is akin to that of 13 year olds

Nocutenamesleft · 11/06/2021 16:48

So I’m quite unique. Like you. I don’t get jealous. Something just turned one day when I was about 19 and boom. Never felt it again. I just find it’s such a useless emotion so I don’t spend time on it. But people find it weird. My husband could be naked in bed with another woman and I’d trust him to the end of the earth. Even if she was on his list. Wouldn’t bother me. But I understand why people think it’s strange. In fact I find it a huge compliment when others chat him up! Or send him flirty messages. It doesn’t bother me. He’s never ever stepped over the line. Not even once. He does know that if he ever did cheat. That would be it. He says he finds it the most attractive part of me is the fact that I’m confident like that and that I don’t stand for anyone’s crap. But he also finds the fact that I’m not jealous attractive too.

So I get how you feel. If you ever want a friendly ear. Im here for you

Own who you are! You sound like a wonderful person who is complete in their lives. Ignore the haters. It’s usually jealously that starts those conversations! They probably feel jealous that you are the way you are!