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How do you end a relationship with someone who adores you?

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barmybird · 18/11/2007 20:11

I'm struggling. I have been seeing someone for 18 months. We get on well, he is great with my dd, supportive caring and honest- sounds great! problem is he and I are very different and although to begin with this was part of the attraction now it is driving me mad. I'm frustrated, feeling a little swamped and seriously thinking about ending our relationship. I just don't know how. I know that sounds stupid but I have tried to end it previously and he makes me feel so guilty and awful that I cave in. I know he loves me and that he would never hurt me (unlike my 2 xh) but thats not enough. How do I do this?? I feel awful just thinking about it.

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NappiesLaChristmasGit · 19/11/2007 23:59

what does jj mean? [baffled]

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Columbia · 20/11/2007 06:02

I think if you have tried to end it several times already and he is still annoying the hell out of you, there is a reason.

I wonder if you are like me and afraid that it might be just you being scared of someone committed - I've felt that way, and been worrie it was just me. However that is something you would need to explore in greater detail on your own - if it is the case. He does sound like a very clingy person and you don't sound like you love him.
That is one reason I would say just end it.

I am always concerned that my instincts lead me to men whom I know are not very available. So I try to counteract this pull. not very successfully I hasten to add...

But whatever your motives for not really being comfortable, he is being strange, no doubt about that. It's not a healthy relationship, please don't stay in it any longer.

Re the ignoring, yes exactly, he is refusing to give you the chance to try and finish with him again. He knows what's coming. It's part of the game. Annoy you, get you to the brink of splitting up with him, get angry with you for rejecting him, and try to make you feel really guilty so you back down and the whole thing can start over. He enjoys it on a deeper level.

eek! Poor you, good luck!

barmybird · 20/11/2007 21:46

Its not so much I'm being selfish (I don't think)its that I don't know if I'm looking for the impossible, if that makes any sense. I have a man who loves me, is committed to me and my child and who's company I enjoy and yes sometimes I feel like I love him. At times I feel like a future is possible. But then this feeling of being trapped comes back and I look at the future and all I see is very hard work to try and achieve the things I want to achieve. I do work hard and I want to enjoy the salary I earn, I want to travel and do fun things with my child, but to do that in a realtionship with him I will have to work extra hard to pay for us all, I will have to arrange it and sort everyone out on the day. I know it sounds trivial but I want someone to take care of me sometimes. But then I think am I throwing away something which is good in a search for 'perfection'. I just feel in a complete mess.

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warthog · 20/11/2007 22:16

i've been in a similar situation before. in my experience those feelings of being trapped, having to work harder don't go away, they get stronger. end it now, while you're not too far down the line.

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barmybird · 21/11/2007 11:23

Well, I have finally bitten the bullet and told him we should break up, by text I might add as he is not answering his phone. I've also left messages clarifying why and asking him to call me if he wants to talk any further. I feel pretty awful becuase I know he will be upset, but I also feel lighter somehow. I just need to keep going now and not be worn down by it all.

Thanks again for all your support and advice.

Starlight how are things for you now?

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Columbia · 21/11/2007 13:45

Ohhhh well done, thank goodness, I'm so pleased you found the courage.

Lighter perhaps because you've been honest. People like your don't allow you to be honest as it always 'hurts' them. He has problems and they are his, not yours...well done

MrsTittleMouse · 21/11/2007 19:29

Hurray! I'm so glad you did it. The fact that you feel lighter is prove positive that you did the right thing.
FWIW, I once finished a relationship and he had a nervous breakdown. It was still the right thing to do; I was proping him up and preventing him from really getting help. Once everything went pear-shaped he had to admit that there was something wrong. I bumped into him a year later, and he was absolutely fine. Finishing a relationship is always the right thing if that person isn't the right one for you.

barmybird · 21/11/2007 22:15

I have said I will drop his stuff off on Saturday, I am dreading it but think its easier if I go up there rather than him coming here. He's obviously furious with me as he won't actually speak to me. He has not responded to my messages except to say how will he get his stuff back.

I plan to do something nice afterwards as this will not be pleasant, think of me on Saturday!

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Columbia · 22/11/2007 05:56

Yes, better if you just leave it outside if you ask me! He might try and inveigle you in for a 'chat' otherwise...avoid at all costs!

Of course he is furious and probably quite enjoying it...it was the plan...he feels you 'owe' him. You plainly don't

Take someone with you if you can. Just in case he throws a fit. He won't if there's someone else there. And I hate to say it but men like that have been known to get a bit psycho if you leave them, that's unlikely but be aware and take someone in case.

Will be thinking of you!

(I bet now it seems strange that you were considering staying with him!!)

barmybird · 22/11/2007 06:38

Wish I did have someone to take with me but unfortunately I don't. I'll just have to brace myself for the hassle which I know will be waiting for me. Being at his home will strengthen my resolve though. I will just want to drop the stuff and run!

I still feel lighter- must have been the right decision

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Columbia · 22/11/2007 09:42

Just be angry when you go. Think about the fact he has no right to try and manipulate you, how dare he etc. That way you'll be prepared for anything he tries

Anniegetyourgun · 22/11/2007 11:45

Coming to this thread late: I married one of those. I can't say total mistake because we had four lovely children, but really, if you want any kind of lifestyle, don't go there. Lack of ambition is one thing, total disinterest in paying his share is another. He was sort of a SAHD, with a repair business on the side, in theory, so that I would commute five days a week and he'd potter off to the garage at evenings and weekends. In a good year he made as much as £1500 and was very proud of himself. In a bad year my salary subsidised the business. Probably made about 500 quid per annum on average. He didn't get a real job until he realised I was serious about divorcing him, and even now he's made a half-assed excuse to work part-time while Muggins commutes full time to London as always (except for the 3 months I've just had off with depression).

I'm not greedy (except for chocolate!), I don't demand a holiday every year or a new (or even 10 year old) car, I can do without evenings out or alcohol for months at a time, as long as the children are fed and clothed that's my duty done, I don't expect the house tidy as long as nothing's actually rotting in the corners, etc. With my not-very-brilliant salary and the money my parents left me we managed to have our own house and only ran into serious debt every few years, fortunately usually bailed out by some other relative falling off the perch and leaving us a bit of money. I spent 23 years like that, until some issues that had been building up finally boiled over (mainly over his extreme jealousy concerning all the men I MIGHT have been sleeping with, but wasn't) - and then I admitted to myself how totally frustrating the last few years had been, how unnecessary the squalour was that we lived in, how he'd use any excuse not to get a paid job ("you never make money working for other people" was a favourite saying), and most awfully, how I had just closed my eyes to it all. It was only when our eldest two went off to university that they started to realise this was NOT NORMAL. They came back and tried to tidy the place up, but he wouldn't let them throw anything away because it might be useful.

I'm divorcing him at last. He will have to have half my pension as he never did that for himself, he will have half the value of the house, which should be enough to set him up with a little place of his own, but he absolutely has to have a three bedroom house with a garage (!). He's having a good whine about the amount I'm making him pay a solicitor because of this "stupid divorce business", and basically it's become evident that he isn't all that nice at all when things aren't going his way. That ring a bell, BB?

I asked him the other week what he thought his life would have been like if we hadn't married. He described various scenarios and options he had had at the time, but I realised: they all involved some woman providing him with somewhere to live. Not one of the options included him doing some kind of job that would make enough money to even feed himself, let alone buy his own place. Good thing he doesn't have any expensive habits. And yet he's a talented person, he more or less built the house we're currently living in, he could make money doing so many things. He'd just rather potter while someone else pays the bills.

No, you don't want this for yourself and your children, you really don't. Good thing he's behaving like an ass now so you know giving him the elbow was justified.

barmybird · 22/11/2007 21:22

Blimey! no wonder you are getting your gun .

I am out of the relationship, I feel horribly guilty, he is not texting me, or emailing so I have obviously really upset him. I know I have made the right decision but it doesn't make it any easier. Just got to get Saturday out the way then I can start and move forward.

Long term I know I wouldn't have made him happy I would have turned into a nag trying to make him something he isn't. Just got to hang on to that.

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Elasticwoman · 22/11/2007 21:33

Annie and Barmy, didn't your parents discourage you from taking on your respective non-contributory partners?

barmybird · 22/11/2007 22:01

Nope, my parents loved him! they said he was lovely and that I am too fussy

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Columbia · 23/11/2007 06:44

Oh Barmy. Pleeeease don't feel guilty.

'I have obviously really upset him'

erm, no! He is obviously upset, because of what has come about. I firmly believe it is his doing as much as anything. It takes two, and you were not happy, and he knew it, and was clinging onto you and pressuring you to stay when he knew you were not happy, by using emotional blackmail.

I would not feel it was my fault if I were you!!!

I am really hoping he doesn't drag you back in to the relationship when you go to drop off his stuff. Men like this are very clever at making you feel to blame...a bit like electricity salesmen who are offended when you say no thanks and shut the door!

Don't fall for it. I felt like you did with one of my ex's, and fully expected to be harrassed after we split. He barely tried really. A few calls saying he 'loved' me, trying to get into an argument, which just convinced me more that I was well out of it!

Yes, cling to your knowledge that it wasn't working. You'll be glad you did

barmybird · 23/11/2007 14:42

The texts have started! bloody hell

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Fimbo · 23/11/2007 14:52

Barmy hope you are ok.

My bf went out with guy for 10 years, ending up marrying and he was full of crap about ending his life if she ever dumped him etc.

6 months after they got married he had an affair and left here.

Ignore the texts. Don't respond to them in anyway.

Can't you put his stuff in a taxi tomorrow?

Columbia · 23/11/2007 15:19

Ok, calm, breathe...

Don't respond or enter into discussion. He wants that. He's playing games. Say 'I'm sorry, it is over, I don't want to argue. ' and turn off your mobile, or do what I said earlier, change number by calling your provider's Ncb - nuisance calls bureau. I thought they'd laugh at me but they were great!

He won't be saying anything important, just the usual. So turn it off if you can. stick to original plan, leave his stuff at his house, then move on

don't get rude or cross, either - smiling and calm and OVER him!!!!

Columbia · 23/11/2007 15:24

This should strengthen your resolve. Do you really want to be with someone who makes you feel this bad, knowing you feel this bad??

IMO that is unacceptable. You wouldn't do that to him so he shouldn't be doing it to you. If he loved you he would care how you felt and behave honourably, respecting your decision. He is very immature, very selfish. Don't stand for it.

Anniegetyourgun · 23/11/2007 18:12

Sorry, haven't been on MN since yesterday. Why didn't my parents discourage me? Well my mother wasn't alive at the time, so that kind of lets her off, and my father merely dropped dark hints. I was old enough to make my own decisions anyway, so I did that; and being a stubborn cuss, I stuck with it for two decades. I believe in loyalty, see, and trying to make things work, and giving people the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes that is not as good as it sounds.

And yes, that is why I picked the name!

suey2 · 23/11/2007 18:30

barmy i would go round a 5am and leave his stuff on the doorstep. Not like you will sleep tonight anyway.

I went out with a lovely man who had no ambition. He was still living in the area he was born, went to the same pub every saturday and worked for the same boss, despite being unhappy and underpaid. I got back with him once as he kept turning up on my doorstep in tears and i wondered if i had made a mistake. However, it was a disaster.

Trust your own feelings. You were not happy, and that is the bottom line. You cannot have fear of being on your own as a reason to hang on. Your irritation would have increased exponentially. You will feel so light tomorrow after droppping off his stuff. I would then turn off your phone and go out for the day with DD. If you can survive the weekend i am sure you will be so relieved. Or be with your family, or someone you can trust not to talk about it. Go to a movie. whatever. Just don't be home alone. good luck

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