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How do you cope when OW is arguably better than you?

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justaftb · 09/04/2021 12:53

Ex and I broke up just before Christmas. We had been together 5 years. He said we should talk about us, we'd become more like friends than a couple, things had 'fizzled out' between us. And there was truth in that, but it had been more on his side than mine. Of course, until I probed, he didn't volunteer the information that he'd been seeing someone behind my back since September. And after more probing, suspicions I had at various times over the past few years were also confirmed.

There was one woman who participated in an a sports club ex and I were part of who just stopped coming about 2 years ago. She and I got on really well. I had welcomed her into the group about 12 months previously, given her advice on equipment, etc. Made sure she knew about social events and so on. We had great conversations and really clicked. She was older than me (about 14 years, closer in age to my ex) and felt like she was someone who gave me good advice from the perspective of someone older. She suddenly stopped attending the club and cut contact with me. I knew deep down it had something to do with my ex. We didn't advertise our relationship at the club and I suspected she hadn't realised and had asked him out, he turned her down, told her he was seeing me, and then she was too embarassed to come back. It turns out that was almost what had happened. She asked him out, he said yes, they went out and only then he told her he was seeing me. She was too embarassed to come back to the club. They didn't start a 'relationship' but they stayed in contact, met for lunch a few times as her office was very near where he lives. He admitted to me that they had sporadic email contact and she would check in to see what his 'situation' was, i.e. was he single yet. I don't believe they slept together while he was still with me.

I don't believe the woman he was cheating on me with just before we broke up is going to develop into anything serious. I think he has probably already embarked on some sort of relationship with the woman above and even if he is 'playing the field' for now, she will ultimately be the one he will start to see exclusively. And it is that that kills me. She is arguably better than me in every way. She is extremely attractive, successful in a prestigious profession, has much better income than me, is interesting and intelligent, lives in a beautiful house, has access to a lovely holiday home. Of course he would prefer her to me. She is amazing. I thought she was amazing! I really, really liked her. Unbelievably, after he confirmed that yes, she had stopped coming to the club because of him, I considered contacting her to say to stop feeling guilty, she didn't know about me and him. Only after a later conversation with him did I find out that she had stayed in contact with him after the initial dinner together.

I feel like he will be proud and chuffed to be associated with her in a way he never was with me, that she is a much better 'catch'. She can offer him so much more. It makes me feel so worthless. My crappy flat and my boring job. My lack of success. I feel I have nothing to offer anyone. I know some of you might say, well at least you are a nice, honest, loyal person who doesn't cheat, unlike her, but she IS arguably a nice person, albeit one who has done something shitty. And I don't doubt she feels a bad about it, but ultimately, she probably really likes him and went with her heart in this case rather than doing the right thing.

So, yeah, how do you cope when OW is arguably better than you in almost every way?

OP posts:
justaftb · 09/04/2021 13:00

I meant to add that I have felt so profoundly sad since we broke up. Not at the loss of the relationship, but because through all his deceit he demonstrated that he thought I was completely worthless.

OP posts:
Coronawireless · 09/04/2021 13:06

She isn’t better than you really. She wasn’t very honest in her dealings with you and nor was your ex.
You do sound lovely and you sound so willing to try to understand and forgive others and put them before yourself. On the one hand I’d like to tell you to toughen up a bit. But on the other hand - hopefully some day you’ll meet someone who truly values you and has the same principles as you - and you don’t want to be all hard and bitter by the time you meet that person!
Get over this, chat to your friends about it, let the grief and dust settle and I hope there is someone lovely for you around the corner🙂

Wanderlusto · 09/04/2021 13:09

Why are you making it all about her op? Really, why give a flying fig about her!

It sounds like hubby was just looking for something else to come along so that he didnt have to be single at all and could just jump straight into another relationship. And she happened to show up.

Didnt you say she was 14 years older than you anyway? Of course she is 'more established'. Big deal.

Neither of them are your problem anymore. It's time to start thinking about your own future. What adventures you'll be able to have as a free, single woman! You could travel the workdhaving steamy affairs with hot hotel waiters. Or you could focus on growing your own career, becoming successful in your own right.

People are different, they all have different faults and merits but a good heart and a strong spirit beats them all. It might not feel like it right now but the world is your oyster, so stop dwelling on who other people are and what they do and think blah blah blah and start looking to what you want to do with your life and who you want to be.

WishICouldThinkOfAGoodName · 09/04/2021 13:11

Don’t let your ex, a cheating scumbag, make you feel worthless. Hold your head high, you don’t need a great job or big house to be happy and live a great life. You are enough.

LaurieFairyCake · 09/04/2021 13:12

Well she's got a lot more 'stuff' than you but most of that is because she's 14 years ahead of you

She's not a better human Thanks

Faith50 · 09/04/2021 13:15

I am sorry for how crap you are feeling op.

I do not believe someone being more attractive, wealthier, educated, cultured is 'better' than another though it may certainly feel this way in a society that places such empathis on appearance, wealth, status. This woman appears to have more to offer but this does not make her a 'better' woman than you.

Sometimes we as women are hard on ourselves when we feel we do not meet the mark. I am neither naturally beautiful or overly academic so have been unable to rely on either in life and it has affected my confidence far more than I would like to admit. Throughout high school I wrongly presumed the pretty, popular, fashionable girls were far better than me. It took me years to stop believing I was less than others and the damage is still evident to this day.

MiddleParking · 09/04/2021 13:16

You sound extremely lovely and well balanced, and great at making friends which is an enviable skill. Plus you’re 14 years younger, you have time to acquire more material things/climb the career ladder etc IF it’s what you want, it doesn’t have to be. Your ex has behaved appallingly but he might well have done you a favour in leaving you free to meet the man for whom you will be ‘the amazing woman’, iyswim.

Roszie · 09/04/2021 13:16

If she was that amazing she would have been snapped up years ago Thanks

AsCoolAsKimDeal · 09/04/2021 13:17

So her reward for being "better" is a man who is constantly exploring new options even when he's not actually cheating?

BIWI · 09/04/2021 13:18

She's not better than you in any way, shape or form.

No manner of looks or achievements or career success (or whatever) will detract from the fact that she's a scheming, inconsiderate cheat.

I'm sorry that you're feeling like this and hope you can get over him sooner rather than later Flowers

AmyLou100 · 09/04/2021 13:18

If she was so amazing, why did she not have someone already?
If she was such a lovely person, then why did she pursue a man who had a partner?
If she was genuinely such a nice person, why did she stop contact with you?
Op you looking at all the material things she has and deciding that it's that which makes her so much better. You have put her on some pedestal, don't be so hard on yourself.

feeficken · 09/04/2021 13:23

Sorry your feeling this way but oh boy do I know that feeling.

Its very easy for us to compare ourselves with other people that we don't really know and its easy for our minds to make a version of someone that's "better" than ourselves. My wife is going off with an older man (I say going off cause shes still living here!) and he is 14 years older than me and its a total head ringer.

It really does have you questioning your own worth and thats really hard, just keep in mind that both of these people from the get go are not honest people and you know what I would take a nice, honest and loyal person who doesn't cheat over anyone else any time of the day.

category12 · 09/04/2021 13:23

A lot of this is in your own head - he's not actually seeing this "better" woman, he's still seeing the one he dumped you for, isn't he?

Your self-worth is in the toilet because it seems like you had the unfortunate luck to meet and fall for a guy who can't keep it in his pants. Not your fault, it's his issue.

You need to rebuild you and work out why you stuck with a guy who it sounds like cheated on you more than once(?) before it all fell apart.

Faith50 · 09/04/2021 13:23

Wanderlusto
You have made a good point in "why make it all about this woman?" OP you are giving her far too much due and admiration. Again, easy to do when your confidence has been shot to shit. I have placed other women on pedestals and myself well below them believing this was my rightful place. I have cared too much about ex partners - the type of women they found attractive, who they did not, where I fitted in (if at all) as if they were the spokesperson for every man on earth.

2bazookas · 09/04/2021 13:27

She's not better than you (or anybody).

She's a cheat, a snake who can't be trusted , a thief , selfish, dishonest. Just a matter of time until she does the same all over again to your ex.

Tomyoneandonly · 09/04/2021 13:30

I'm sorry your feeling this way op. Please remember that there is no such emotion as better then. She is not better then you no matter what. The Queen isn't better then you. We are all made the same ie of blood water etc. You are feeling so low ATM as there's been a cheat in your life who by the sounds of things was waiting for someone/something different. He didn't value you or put you first. You deserve someone who will put you first and make you feel that you are the best woman in the world. Op you are being very kind about the ow which is way better than most I know I'm still angry about the OW.

thecolourpurpleandpink · 09/04/2021 13:30

Always remember op that this woman had no problem
Seeing your partner behind your back knowing that he was in a relationship and knowing how kind and welcoming you were to her.
That character does not a good or better woman, make .
She will always wonder when he will cheat on her and never sleep peacefully again in the full knowledge of what a conceited, deceitful cheat she has hooked up with .
Hand him over and be thankful that your ex has freed you for better .

DodgeRainClouds · 09/04/2021 13:31

He sounds awful and I really hope you step away and look back and realise this. You deserve so much better and she deserves him to be honest. She doesn’t sound nice at all if she operates like this.

Please move on as he is stopping you actually meeting someone who will truly make you happy.

Marmaladeagain · 09/04/2021 13:32

She is not better than you, she's better than how you feel about yourself at the moment. That will change with time and you'll see things clearer.

Allow yourself time and don't focus on her as she is busy in "wooing" mode of those around her, usually lasts about two years tops and then the real person emerges faults and all - there will be many faults, as mentioned above - she wasn't somebody's no. 1 until she was lucky enough to stumble upon your husband.

Once you're no longer interested in him, no doubt her interest will wain too - usually after a prize for their own ego - not such fun when no-one other than them wants the prize.

GrumpyHoonMain · 09/04/2021 13:33

Honestly you’re better off. And you need to know man who likes to date women 14 or more years younger than him isn’t necessarily going to be interested in someone closer to his age for the long term. It’ll be a fling and then he’ll move on. Don’t give it another thought and focus on you.

Marmaladeagain · 09/04/2021 13:33

should say "lucky" enough as certainly not actually lucky!

thecolourpurpleandpink · 09/04/2021 13:34

To add, I'm not bitter or resentful towards my exh ow. He is her problem
Now , God help her.
However, any woman who encroaches on a marriage/ relationship in the full knowledge that it is a supposed committed one is not only less in terms of character, but her fundamental core values, morals and principles do not align with the majority of those in commited relationships.
Or as my dear Mother used to say ... poor quality.

MarshmallowAra · 09/04/2021 13:36

because through all his deceit he demonstrated that he thought I was completely worthless.

His deceit doesn't say anything about you or what he thought about you; all it says is that he's one of those people who can't (won't) end a relationship before he's got another one set up!!!

Wanderlusto · 09/04/2021 13:37

@2bazookas

She's not better than you (or anybody).

She's a cheat, a snake who can't be trusted , a thief , selfish, dishonest. Just a matter of time until she does the same all over again to your ex.

Or until he goes sniffing around for something better.

Its been my experience that when men are punching above their weight, it doesnt make them think 'lucky me, how have I done that? I better hold on for dear life'. It makes them think 'If I could have this...what else can I have? I'm going to keep looking for something else that's shiny'.

He should have valued you, a kind, caring, much younger woman! But he didn't. He took it as an ego boost to look for something else that was too good for him. Not better. Just something else.

He treats women like objects he can acquire that make him feel good about himself. It's sad really.
Because he'll never really understand their value.

Maybe she is awesome. Maybe she is a fucking bitch. Maybe it's a bit of both. But he just likes her because she is new and shiny. He doesnt have the capacity to love her. And he'll lose interest once his ego is boosted by the acquisition. And do to heras he did to you. If she doesn't get rid first.

MarshmallowAra · 09/04/2021 13:37

He's a monkey brancher .... In fact he's a cheater, and they says everything about who he is .. nothing to do with you at all.

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