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Upset by friend - forgive or not?

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ThatchersCold · 27/02/2021 15:51

I’m not a confrontational person so don’t know how to deal with this.

A couple of weeks ago it was my 40th. Obviously it’s impossible to do much celebrating at the moment, but my long term best friend said she would throw me a mini ‘party’ at hers. She’s my support bubble (both single parents). Let’s call her friend A.

She said she would also invite friend B (before the covid police start yes I know this was against the rules but it was my 40th and depressing enough, it’s not like we had 30 people over). I’ve only really become good friends with friend B since last summer, which mostly came about because we started seeing 2 blokes who were brothers and working temporarily in this area. Friend A was never very happy about me being friends with friend B, which she admits is daft and she’s been trying to be more understanding and inclusive. So there was always the potential for that to cause problems.

Long story short, the blokes that me and friend B left the area, I carried on seeing the one I met, whereas his brother ended it with her. She really liked him, and has since then found it difficult to accept that I’m still with my bf and she’s not.

However she has been seeing this other guy for a few months, who I haven’t met in person but to be honest from what she’s told me he sounds like a controlling knob. She doesn’t even like him that much and still obsesses over my bf’s brother.

That’s the backstory. So it gets to the night of my 40th, Friend B was already hammered when I got to friend A’s house. She talked a lot about how she was ‘going through a breakup’ - basically this twat that she’s seeing hadn’t texted her for three days. So probably not an actual breakup, he just does this sometimes to punish her (like I say, he’s a knob).

Friend B kept putting her feet on my lap while we were sat on the sofa, I kept asking her not to but she kept doing it and laughing which pissed me off. I don’t like feet and really didn’t want her bare feet on my lap, which I think is fair enough.

Earlier that day I’d received some flowers, with no name on the card. My bf is working abroad at the moment, and I really hoped they were from him, and had messaged him to ask but hadn’t heard back. Friend B kept saying things like ‘oh they could be from anyone’ and ‘be nice if they were from him but I don’t think it’s his style’ - like she wanted them to not be from him. Anyway he finally messaged back and confirmed they were from him, which I think is what pushed friend B over the edge. She really can’t handle that I’m still with him, it’s bonkers.

So then she just started being a right PITA, firstly picking arguments with friend A, saying she don’t know why she was invited as clearly neither of us wanted her there Confused. Then she started going on about how she was going through a breakup again. I tried to be kind and supportive over that but she just really turned on me, stood up and was shouting in my face about how I don’t understand what she’s going through, how it’s fine for me because ‘my life’s perfect’, I’m still with my bf and he sent me flowers etc (the real crux of the matter I think).

For the record, my life is really not perfect. I have ME and PTSD from a really bad time of domestic abuse, and I am a single parent of 2 disabled children. I have a lovely bf but I hardly ever get to see him as he’s rarely in the same country as me. Literally no one has ever described my life as perfect before!

This culminated in friend B storming around getting her things together and saying she was going. I pleaded with her not to, and said please stay, it’s my 40th, but she was determined to flounce off, and went.

Didn’t hear from her for a few days until she messaged suggesting we went for a run. I replied saying I wasn’t well. Since then I’ve had I think 3 messages from her asking how things are, with lots of kisses. Well how I am is pretty pissed off that she behaved like that on my birthday, it put a real downer on what was already a pretty shit 40th.

I like my life to be calm and chilled and I’m selective about who I spend my time with, I hate drama and I haven’t experienced anything like this since secondary school! So I’m torn between just writing her off as a friend, and forgiving her. I realise that what she did comes from a place of drunkenness and jealousy, so maybe the right thing to do is to let it go. It would have been nice to get some kind of acknowledgment or apology from her but that’s obviously not happening. She is generally a kind and nice person so this was out of character for her.

WWYD?

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DelphiniumBlue · 27/02/2021 15:55

Friend B is not a friend if she allows her tantrums to ruin important events in your life.

ThatchersCold · 27/02/2021 15:56

Also to add that seeing as we had broken the rules by having one extra person in our bubble for my birthday, that it was her. Friend A thought she’d be upset if she didn’t invite her (which she would have been). There are other good friends who would have loved to have been there, and not shouted at either of us and flounced home before 10pm!

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statetrooperstacey · 27/02/2021 15:56

If she is generally a nice and kind person I would let it go tbh especially as she was very drunk, she perhaps can’t remember much detail. Shit night for you but sounds like she had a lot on.

OverweightPidgeon · 27/02/2021 15:56

I’d advise everyone to grow up really.

ThatchersCold · 27/02/2021 15:57

@DelphiniumBlue that’s how I feel. I know she finds it hard to accept my relationship with my bf but normally she manages to keep a lid on that, but chose my 40th to let rip about it Sad

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ThatchersCold · 27/02/2021 15:58

@OverweightPidgeon believe me I am finding the whole thing as immature and ludicrous as you are.

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ThatsnotmyBorishishairistoneat · 27/02/2021 16:00

Ditch

ThatchersCold · 27/02/2021 16:01

@statetrooperstacey yes that’s the other side of it and why I am torn about forgiving her.

I think friend A is quite pleased that now she doesn’t have to try and get along with friend B, and suggested in her cynical view that part of the reason friend B is being a bit grovelly (without actually apologising of course) is that if she’s not friends with me then she has no hope of seeing my bf’s brother again, who is obsessed with and freely admits she would drop the guy she’s seeing for in a heartbeat if he showed the remotest bit of interest in wanting to see her again (even if it was just for a shag).

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ThatchersCold · 27/02/2021 16:02

Sorry about all the typos, this new phone is not my friend either it would seem!

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Myworldyourworld · 27/02/2021 16:05

If it was Me I would give it a chance drink was involved and people can be a bit silly when they have had a few drinks. I also think her messages. are her trying to reach out to you. Maybe she wants to make it up to you.

snowblower · 27/02/2021 16:11

Wow that's a really long winded way to say friend B got pissed and acted like a twat. Sounds like she's generally a decent person. I would let it slide. It's been a rough year all round I'm sure we've all had our moments.

ThatchersCold · 27/02/2021 16:14

@snowblower Grin sorry I tried to make it as concise as possible. So if I’m going for the making it up approach would you have a conversation about what happened or just forget about it?

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MrsBrunch · 27/02/2021 16:16

You all need to grow up.

FunnyWonder · 27/02/2021 16:18

Do you like having B as a friend overall? Frankly she sounds like more trouble than she's worth, but only you can weigh that up. I would find it hard to get past the fact that she hasn't apologised or even acknowledged her poor behaviour. I have a lot more respect for someone who owns up to behaving like an idiot. It's something to move on from. But the whole thing where she is jealous because you're still in a relationship with her ex's brother rings alarm bells for me because that signals a lack of maturity and if she's around the 40 mark, then that's a trait which is unlikely to change..

ThatchersCold · 27/02/2021 16:23

@FunnyWonder - yes usually I do, she’s very different from most of my friends, and we only really became friends through the blokes we met, although I have known her to say hello to for years. We live in a very small town, kids go to the same school, there’s only one pub here and she lives in the next street so it’s not like I’m not going to see her around.

She was in a relationship from when she was 16 until a year or so ago and I think her emotional maturity level got stuck at that point.

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snowblower · 27/02/2021 16:28

I would mention it probably in a 'how you doing?, you seemed really down on yourself the other night' way. Her sending you messages makes me think she's feeling a bit embarrassed about her pissed behavior. We've all been there.

Tempusfudgeit · 27/02/2021 16:29

40 or 14?

KeyboardMash · 27/02/2021 16:37

I think I would give her a chance... Maybe message something like "Are you feeling better after the other night? You didn't seem in a great place but I couldn't tell if you were just very pissed!" It gives her an opening to say sorry - or to admit it if she was so wrecked she doesn't actually remember being such a cow. I'd then make a decision based on her reaction. Depending on how much I liked her, I might accept "sorry if I was a twat, I was hammered". If she was whiny, self-centred or tried to turn it back on me ("you clearly didn't want me there" etc) then I'd consider whether she was really worth the hassle.

KeyboardMash · 27/02/2021 16:37

Cross post with snowblower!

Cokie3 · 27/02/2021 16:43

It seems friend A was right about her all along. Maybe friend A had a woman's intuition about her, a 6th sense.

I don't buy that friend B is 'embarrassed' about her behaviour. If she was, she'd have the decency to address it in the message and apologise. Not message as if nothing happened which is exactly what she is doing. Not mentioning it in the hopes you 'let it go'. And there is no way that friend B doesn't remember, and even if she doesn't, surely she'd ask 'what happened at your party? I don't remember'. She should at least apologise on point of first contact ie first time she messaged you after. That she didn't shows she doesn't care. And I certainly would not do what snowblower said, that reinforces in friend B's mind that she herself is the victim and has the OP bending over feeling sorry for her, and basically being a doormat and ingratiating yourself to her. When it should be the other way around.

I would message her, tell her that you thought she was your friend and she spitefully ruined your 40th, that you are very hurt and have no intention of meeting up with her. Then act depending on what she says back in a reply (if she does reply).

In short, NO. Absolutely do not forgive her, until she apologises at least, and she hasn't even had the decency to do that. Show respect for yourself and for your boundaries.

Honeyroar · 27/02/2021 16:44

Yes Keyboardmash is probably right. I’d give her a gentle nudge that she can either take as an opportunity to apologise or she can show her colours again if they were true!

ElspethFlashman · 27/02/2021 16:46

Honestly I think A is right about B.

You've only known her a year and she's managed to ruin your birthday. Imagine in a normal year with regular nights out! Imagine how many of them she would have ruined!

She hasn't apologised and has absolutely no intention of it. Who needs a friend who can't even acknowledge when they were an absolute cow?

I don't know if I'd drop her entirely if it's a small place but I would definitely downgrade her to a Tier 2 friend. In other words, friendly but not going out of your way. And not stressing about texting.

gutful · 27/02/2021 16:48

It seems obvious why your BF’s brother left her

You should cut the cord & drop her ASAP

If it’s going to go anywhere with your boyfriend it will fizzle out with her anyway.

She ruined your gathering, even being drunk doesn’t excuse that selfishness

She sound emotionally unstable & a liability

Your instincts to now have an aversion towards her seem spot on.

After a certain age who can deal with this kind of immature drama?

HighHeelBoots · 27/02/2021 16:49

She sounds a bit spoilt brattish to me making your birthday all about her and jealousy over you having a bf

earlyforties · 27/02/2021 16:51

Why did you try to get her to stay after she ruined your 40th? Why did you lie about not being able to go for a run? If you don't want to end the friendship tell her your pissed off at how she acted & get an apology out of her at least before bothering to spend time with her again.