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Financial situation. Opinions from housewife /sahm only plz

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Jtblmb · 21/02/2021 14:41

Before I start this I know I'm in a financially abusive relationship and am starting plans to separate so you don't need to tell me to leave etc because I am.
I am interested to hear from other sahm and housewives what is your financial arrangement with your husband, as I think my situation is pretty common and I'd like to hear how you have dealt with it.

I did the age old silly thing of leaving my job to stay at home and raise the children whilst my husband climbed the career ladder and now earns a good salary and has a senior role at work. I have no savings of my own.
Over the 10 years I have done this, I have started to be gradually treated like one of his employees rather than his wife. He expects to me stay at home all day and clean /cook and have tea on the table when he comes in. He doesn't mind me going out somewhere but it can't cost money. So I'm essentially stuck at home. He has never looked after the children himself, never taken them anywhere, never helps around the house, never cooks.

But anyway, he had always given me a small amount of money each month, plus the child benefit I recieve. With this money I have to buy the family food, my petrol, my phone bill. I'm not really left with anything after this. He keeps the rest of the money and pays all of the bills, and things such as holidays for the family, clothes for the children, birthdays, Xmas etc. The children are brought everything no problem, and he has whatever he wants.
But I don't have any money of my own. The only reason he gives me any money at all is because he's always at work so I do the shopping. Otherwise he would give me nothing.
He has always said if I ever need anything just ask him. But when I have he's either said no or given it to me very begrudgingly. By this I mean I was in desperate need of a new winter coat and boots. Mine had holes in and were leaking water. I almost had to beg . I usually buy all my clothes and shoes from charity shops myself (with my little bit left over a month) but charity shops here have been closed for the best part of a year so I haven't been able to get any clothes, I'm also plus size which makes it difficult to get things cheaply.
This morning a prime example, I'm down to zero a week before the end of the month as I had to pay for my cars mot and to be fixed out the money he gives me for food??? He refused to pay for it. So I'm down £100. I said can you pay for the shopping this week as I'm down to zero. He says no, use your overdraft. He has thousands of pounds in the bank, he showed me his balance this morning. Why is he like this???

He wanted me to stop work in the first place because I earned less and it was easier for me to look after the children. He doesn't work set hours. I was happy to do so. But I didn't think it would be like this.
I've spoken to him many times about me going back to work but I haven't for two reasons. 1. He has said my wages would need to go into the joint account with his (that I have no access too) and be used towards the bills the same as his. But none left over for me. I wouldn't be able to spend anything out of it because he would go through every transaction and scrutinise everything I spend. 2. He has said he won't take time off etc to look after the children or pay for any childcare. It would all have to be paid for by me and organised by me. So what is the point?
As I've said we are separating and I will be in a much better position with my own life, but why does this happen? Why does someone feel they can control someone's life this way? I don't deny he probably begrudges paying for everything, but doesn't want me to work either?
Where did I go wrong in all this? For others in similar set ups, how do you deal with the day to day finances etc? Thanks

OP posts:
Keratinsmooth · 22/02/2021 14:11

If you are separating anyway then take him up on the joint card, buy what you need, don’t get a receipt and get some cash back to save. Yes he will moan complain etc but it’s not going to damage your relationship anymore is it?

How much is your “allowance”? DP you know what your grocery bill is per month?

MizMoonshine · 22/02/2021 14:25

My DP actually asked last night if I'm happy with our financial set up and if I want to review it at all.

I am unemployed, I took redundancy when I was due to start my Mat leave. Got a nice enough payout. Planning on being a SAHM for a full 2 years at least and then hopefully moving back into part time work.

My DP works full time and has a comfortable income. We have high outgoings (two houses to upkeep etc - he's still got his ex marital home as well as our home).

In order to give me financial freedom and to prevent me from feeling as though I have to ask for money or like I am in receipt of pocket money, I use my credit card to do all shopping. That's family shopping and my personal shopping. He simply pays the bill when it arrives.

If I want to make any big purchases, we discuss beforehand. But this really allows me all the financial freedom I need.

user1471538283 · 22/02/2021 14:33

My ex was like this as soon as my DS was born. It was all lovely whilst I was earning and he was taking money off me but as soon as I wanted some support for six months, er nah!

The thing is for every penny you have that's less for him. He is the only one who is important! I would have my name on that card and spend as I see fit. So what if he doesn't like it? You are leaving him anyway so you may as well.

It is so disappointing but it is not your fault.

PensionsYes · 22/02/2021 14:34

What would he do if your salary was paid into your personal account? If he responds by cutting off your food shopping allowance you could perhaps just leave at that point?

Have you told his friends and family how he treats you? Do they know you have holes in your shoes?

So glad you’re making preparations to leave OP.

When I was a SAHM and ran out of £ sometime during mat leave we had a chat and opened a new joint account and his salary went into it. We both have debit cards. I work again now but we’ve never looked back. Equal access.

Diadora30 · 22/02/2021 14:37

I’ve read through all the posts, and you’ve had some really helpful replies, so I hope that they are of some help and comfort to you.

The way your husband is treating you, is not normal. I’m sorry that you are being subjected to this. I’m pleased that you are making your plans to leave. Hopefully the weight will be lifted from your shoulders and you will feel the freedom, and begin to enjoy your life.

As an aside, I’m a sahm, my dh is a high earner, so his wages go into our joint account, where all the bills come out, and what is left over, we divide equally and they go into our single accounts, to spend how we wish. We have a joint savings account, and a single savings account each.

theleafandnotthetree · 22/02/2021 14:44

[quote agreyersky]**@bombastical there may also be programmes in your area specifically to help economically inactive people (like you) back into work. Even if you don't feel that is an option now, it may be in the future. I did one of these in my mid 40s. Where I used to live the council runs apprentice schemes for certain jobs with no age limit. Its worth trying to find out about all these types of programmes in your area, try asking at the library (when they open) look at every leaflet they have there or ask staff. Keep your eyes open for this stuff.

You will feel tired and depressed and hopeless, because the life you lead makes you feel like that. But it can change.

You can also see if you can access free counselling through your GP or a local mental health charity or women's aid. There are actually lots of services out there to help and once you get in the system you start to find out about more services to help you. You don't have to go through this alone.[/quote]
Apologies to the OP - hope we're not hijacking your thread - but this is very good advice for @bombastical and really anyone who feels so hopeless about their situation, who are many steps behind where the OP is. There is lots of support out there and the steps to take it might only be baby ones but you have to at least give yourself the chance to bring about change. Your present life is draining of your spirit, confidence and control but please be assured that there are always options and opportunities to make even your current set up more bearable and hopefully ultimately to move on from it in time.

Dacquoise · 22/02/2021 15:06

Hi @bombastical, it would be well worth seeking advice on the prenup as my understanding, having recently gone through the court system, is financials are based on needs with needs of children and by association resident parent taking precedence. Prenups can be taken into consideration but if there isn't enough to house both parties prenups can be set aside. There are very few couples that have excess assets to justify one party walking away with the majority leaving the other party destitute.

Dacquoise · 22/02/2021 15:13

Also prenups have to be updated every five years so may be irrelevant if this hasn't been done in a long marriage.

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