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Worry about what others think

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Ceriane · 16/02/2021 22:05

I know I shouldn’t worry what people think, but I have been single for years and I don’t know how to explain to people why. I am happy most of the time but don’t know how to explain my situation to people and they seem to expect me to. Maybe I’m overthinking.

I had several relationships in my teenage years. The first one was when I was 13 and it was a really nice relationship for about six months, but ended as we were so young.

The next one was 14-16. It was quite serious for our ages, he was the type of person to take life very seriously and wanted to get engaged at 16, but I felt way too young to make such a big decision. We drifted apart as we got older went to college and had different groups of friends.

Pre that relationship, just after and during a period where we were on a break there were several what I call 3 week wonders... people you hang out with for a few weeks and class each other as boyfriend and girlfriend but you are still really young so not really serious “adult” relationships if that makes any sense.

At 16 I went out with someone who very quickly became extremely possessive and it weirded me out and scared me, so I ended that one after a few weeks.

I dated a couple of people (both of which it fizzled) then got into another relationship at 16/17 for quite a few months. It was going really well at the beginning, but there were a few red flags. We got back together the following year but he made it obvious he just wanted a friends with benefits situation, which I didn’t want. I wanted a relationship.I really liked him. He really hurt me and said things like “why should it all be just about you? We’re not going to have sex just when you want to! If I want to see other girls I should be allowed to see other girls and not just you! If your sleeping with me it should be whenever I want, not just when you want it!” At the time I was a virgin, secretly pretty terrified of actually having sex (I know that’s weird, especially as I had had relationships ) ...we still hadn’t at this point. I was scared of being controlled sexually by a man. I was 18 by this time. For the next few weeks he kept trying to pressure me into a no strings relationship. I completely ended it and then went out with someone a good ten years older than me. My family were not keen on this relationship and saw him as a bit of a predator, which looking back, he probably was. I was shy and had difficulty standing up for myself.

At 18/19 I was single for about a year, after spending most of my teenage years in relationships of one sort or another. I had offers, but found I actually really enjoyed my freedom. I went out with friends and just enjoyed life, building my own self esteem. I was happy and had peace of mind.

At 19 I started to date again, the first two I found myself just letting things fizzle because I didn’t want to be tied down too young and then I met someone who it was turning into a relationship but we ended up being really good friends. I look back and always think of him as the one that got away. I still to this day don’t know why I didn’t stick with him. Maybe the attraction wasn’t there completely? I don’t know.

At 19 I realised that I was pushing guys away as I was scared of being trapped or controlled. I was scared to admit that at 19 I still hadn’t slept with anyone. At the time I thought that was really old. I now realise it isn’t. I’d had relationships where we had done everything but, but for some reason, actual sex, penetration, the possibility of becoming pregnant seemed like such a big deal. (Is it just me?). Partly due to my religious upbringing, maybe or the relationship where I’d felt trapped/controlled as a teenager? I don’t know what it was but if I’m honest, sex scared me a bit.

I had wanted it to be with someone I loved and planned to spend the rest of my life with, someone I felt really relaxed around. That was what I planned throughout my teenage years but by 18 or 19 I thought that maybe I was being unrealistic or old fashioned, and started to feel quite embarrassed that I was a virgin.

I went through this phase between 19 -23 where although I didn’t want to settle down just yet, I wanted to know what I was missing out on/overcome my fear I think. I slept with a male friend a few times. We weren’t in a relationship, and the sex was okay. Not fireworks or anything but a nice enough experience. After that I was seeing someone for a few months, it was a long distance relationship so didn’t work out in the long term, but it was a really nice, quite romantic relationship, we were both quite inexperienced sexually, but we communicated well about this and had quite a lovely sexual relationship. I then got back with my ex from when I was 17/18. We had a very intense sexual relationship, but I realised he was just using me and I ended up quite hurt in this relationship, he cheated on me and was really controlling. He was really not understanding when I had health issues, particularly as I had gynae problems that then caused problems with sex. “You might be in pain, but I have needs!”

I decided to take a break from relationships, by this time I was 23. I thought either the real thing or just be completely single, no casual sex or confusing, in between stuff. I wanted to find that person I could spend the rest of my life with. I was a bit of a serial dater during that year. I went out with people, but just didn’t find anyone I had the “this is it” feeling about or I didn’t fancy them , or I wasn’t the one for them so they didn’t contact me. I would just go out with guys and get to know them. I mainly had good experiences but one or two were quite pushy, including one who wouldn’t take no for an answer and tried to force me. That experience shook me up for quite a while, and put me off dating for a long time.

At 24 for about a year and a half I just swore off all men. I was battling physical and mental health problems, including gynae issues. I just wanted to just not be in the situation as I was dealing with enough. Certain members of my family gave me a really hard time about this, as they felt I was at the age where I should be settling down. My parents were very much of the mindset “in our day you got married at 20 and you stopped married and so and so so and so’s daughter is getting married! How can I hold my head up in the supermarket!” kind of attitude. I had moved back home for a while and they really piled the pressure on and said some really hurtful things. That put me off relationships even more. Looking back I’m quite angry that they made such a deal of the fact I way single at 24! That seems so young and I bet every other person is single at that age these days! This was 2007, not the dark ages.

Between 25 and 29 I then got into a relationship with someone. We were together for four years, started out as friends and developed into more. We got a house together, talked about possibly getting married and starting a family. As time went on I realised that for a long time my heart was never really in that relationship, I was going through the motions and then when my illness got really bad....sex became a HUGE problem, there had never been a strong attraction if I was honest. The whole relationship began to stress me out and in the end we split up.

I was single, physically unwell and really suffering with anxiety, depression and not knowing what I wanted. Due to gynae issues I knew I was off sex big time and felt that to get into a relationship while I felt like that wouldn’t be fair on the other person.

I then dated someone from work and even did online dating because I felt like I “should” as I was at the age where I “should” be getting married and having kids, but really I just needed to focus on getting well, do that’s what I did.

For the next year I stayed single, and concentrated on getting my health back (I won’t go into too much detail here about my illness as that’s a whole other story). I just had to ignore the people who seemed to think being “on my own” was my biggest problem and that I needed to “get out there and find myself someone” as it really did feel like the last thing I wanted. I was single on purpose FFS why don’t people understand that!

I got better and went into my 30’s completely single, but it felt like a brand new start. For the next few years I felt so much healthier, happier, more peaceful in my mind and more confident in myself than ever before! I went on the odd date here and there but I wasn’t actively looking. I was open to a relationship but just in a happy to be me, it will happen naturally if it’s meant to.

I have been single for most of my 30’s and swing between being happy and open to love or not wanting a relationship at all or periods of actively looking/dating and periods of not looking or being that bothered. I have questioned my sexuality as I had an intense (and I mean intense) crush on a much older female colleague at a previous job.

I tried OLD... not impressed to say the least!!!

I was 37 when we went into lockdown and although I enjoyed it to start with I will admit that I did panic a bit that I may not meet someone and I’m getting older! I’m 38 now and the chances of me having a family are now slim. I’m 50/50 as to whether I want kids if I’m honest. I’m aware I have left it late. If I did it would really have to be the right person, there is someone I talk to online and he seems nice and maybe we will meet up after the lockdown? Who knows.

I just don’t know what I want. Or what to say to people when they ask “so why are you single?” “How long have you been single for?” I fear being judged by people. I feel like most people’s story is “I met John when I was 17 and we’ve been together ever since” it at least “I was with someone for years and we split up last year” that’s the norm.... I just clam up when asked about my love life. I get pitied and single shamed so much and it’s the main thing I’m dreading when we come out of lockdown m. My love life/relationship history is so patch and complicated and I feel such shame about my situation. Don’t even know what I’m asking really. Just felt I wanted to make sense of it all and get it out really.

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Megansocks · 17/02/2021 19:09

Don’t dwell on it! Or what you ‘should’ be doing. And everyone else looks happy or sorted from the outside looking in. You never know what their life is like. We are usually swapping one set of stress for another, just be kind and accepting of yourself, like I say most people aren’t bothered unless they have some issue and are projecting. Don’t waste mental energy on others mental lives, they aren’t usually doing the same most of the time.

Cpl1586407 · 17/02/2021 19:38

Where do you live that everyone has settled down with their childhood sweetheart Confused

I know virtually no one like that. One friend who's been with her DH since 20, and one couple from uni who are still together. That's it.

I have a number of single female friends - I was among them a few years ago, so I get the people can be rude. But tbh it was just my mom's sisters being judgy.

You need to practice a comeback that shuts people up. When people asked me why I hadn't settled down I would say "because life is too good!" that kept most people quiet lol. And it was true too. Loved being single. Hand to think long and hard before committing to my current dp.

litterbird · 17/02/2021 21:18

I have never married and have been single before for years, now mid 50s....I used to get all the comments you have had too. It was soooooo boring after a while. When people (usually married people), started asking me the question about still being single, I just used to say “how lucky am I? I got away from the institution of marriage and I am so lucky”...it usually shut them up 😂

Ceriane · 17/02/2021 21:49

Thank you. Without giving too much away, a suburban area in the midlands.

Most of my school and college friends, cousins and all of my mum and dad’s friends and their brothers and sisters and people I know in the area, in the main have been with the same person since their teenage years. People I know through uni and work...completely different story with their relationship history being a lot more varied with longer periods of being single and an attitude of “it’s not the be all and end all”. Like me really.

The people who are judgemental and go on at me about it, I have realised there are about 5 or 6 main culprits for this, when I actually think about it, they are all people with issues who are quite insecure in themselves and can’t get their head around the fact that unless I really genuinely like someone and have feelings for them I’m just not that bothered.

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Ceriane · 17/02/2021 22:05

Litterbird that is brilliant!!!

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IsIgnoranceBliss · 17/02/2021 22:53

In a way I’m glad I don’t seem to have the “oh he likes me, he’ll do” clinging vine gene that most of the women I know seem to have

Are you saying things like that to others? Perhaps they are making comments about your single status in retaliation.

bevm72yellow · 18/02/2021 00:30

Are you in an area you grew up in ? I think that is very difficult for someone as you would not be asked the same questions if you lived in another area altogether. So therefore you feel judged. Plus families can be difficult with unnecessary questioning and "jokes". Don't even pretend laugh at people's jokes or remarks...give a blank uninterested face. Are you nervous about "making a bad" choice in partner or introducing a boyfriend can make someone feel judged? It's ok to make a mistake.....maybe change your environment, it may help the feeling of judgement you receive.

gutful · 18/02/2021 02:03

“I think everyone is different, some people meet young and they grow together, other people have several relationships and periods of being single and that’s fine, some meet later in life and some are happy on their own, there’s no one size fits all”

I find it really telling that you have missed out on the “people who meet & marry young then get divorced”

You seem to really be romanticising marrying your childhood seeetheart.

A lot of people marry young only to be divorced by 25/30 & often with kids in tow, then have to navigate the dating world as a single parent.

Not everyone who meets & marries young will grow together - the likelihood is they will grow apart & split up actually.

Also while us singles may grumble about social media & tinder wrecking dating relations a ton of marriages have failed because when those things came about it created a temptation for those people who have been in long term relationships & didn’t date much if at all - they hear stories about tinder & how easy / fun it is to meet random people on it and many relationships have suffered because of it.

Your concept that you wish you had met your person young is just a fantasy.

You could also be feeling trapped in a stale relationship with someone who now physically Repulses you because you have grown to see them like a sibling not a lover, with kids/house tying you down & making it hard to leave, feeling short changed & upset because you didn’t really understand what “the rest of your life” would actually be like....and now that road feels long & you’ve wasted your life.

Sure some people meet young & grow old together but chances are not in their favour. They are the exception not the rule.

Ceriane · 18/02/2021 11:11

Ignoranceisbliss: No, I don't say it to them, I'm way too polite...but I do think it, probably in retaliation to them.

I think it's because that is the ideal I've had pushed down my throat since childhood, and not in a good way.

I think I need to take a deep breath, let the comments and judgements I've had from people go and start afresh!

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