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Partner's intolerable behaviour

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RuthCM · 14/01/2021 16:12

My partner's behaviour is becoming more and more intolerable. In our long relationship, he has always had a quick temper, so I am not sure whether he is getting worse, or whether I am getting so worn down by it I can't take any more.
I have a catalogue of examples/memories, most of which are engrained in my head.
In the past I think I was persuaded (or bullied) by him into believing I had started the fire and had 'wound him up', but as time has gone on I have begun to realise that he winds himself up, usually in response to something quite innocent that I have said, or done. I can't understand why he acts this way.
I'll give you an example.
It was recently his sister's birthday, which I remembered the day before (yes, HIS SISTER, and yes I REMEMBERED). Fortunately I had a card, but it wouldn't have got there in time in the post, so I intended to take it to her the next day (or we would as a family, whatever was decided really). On the morning of her birthday, as I do normally, I sent a quick message to wish her a happy birthday. Later on in the afternoon, I reminded him that it was her birthday (my intention of starting the conversation was to discuss the fact I would like to take the card and get her some flowers, or the like). He asked me if I'd sent a message in the morning. I said I had and he asked if it was from us all. It wasn't exactly a message from us all as it was me just sending a quick comms in the morning (as I do to all my friends), as I intended to go later in the day to see her, so I truthfully said that it wasn't and started to begin to say that I had the card from us all and was going to get her some flowers or the like. He immediately started on me, saying things like now the family will think he doesn't care, how could I have done that, shouting at me, calling me names, telling me how bad I was to have done it that way, telling me how bad I am (when he gets like this he invariably brings up other irrelevant stuff I do that annoys him), saying she never does anything for him, so why should we go out of our way, and that we don't have time anyway. He wouldn't let me explain why the message wasn't badged from us all (the later card would be). In exasperation, I eventually said that if he didn't like the way I had done the morning message he could always send one himself (it is important that I tell you that I didn't say it aggressively, just as if it was a passing comment). Well, that aggravated him furthermore and gave him more ammo to throw at me. He ranted that he had 'been out all day and his phone had run out of charge and' you know that' (he was out for pleasure and had been back in the house sometime and continued doing things at home for pleasure, and was charging his phone, so could actually have sent a message himself, but that wasn't my point - and I didn't expect him to send his own message - I was exasperated and offended by his behaviour towards me, after having done something with absolutely good intentions).
So this is the type of thing that winds him up. I believe I did nothing wrong and had honerable intentions. On a few occasions since this incident, I have approached him calmly to try and explain how this behaviour makes me feel, but it only lights his touch paper again and things escalate to intolerable levels. This particular 'row' went on for days. He says he has reviewed the incident and believes he was right and I was in the wrong. I have explained that the specific incident is sort of irrelevant now and that I need to help him to understand how this sort of behaviour is destroying me, but he seems to muddy the waters by referring back to it, or as he usually does, brings other things that he perceives I have done wrong (historically) into the conversation (like he is strengthening his argument/position). Sometimes, when I do something he perceives to be wrong, untimely, etc. he will rant at me for over an hour (including name calling and him jumping up and down biting his finger etc.) He also seems to expect me to say things in certain ways and for me to agree with him, even if I don't.
I have started to document when these things happen and it can sometimes be as often as a couple of times a week.
I have got to the stage that I am programmed to not say certain things to him to avoid this behaviour and when I explain to him that I feel I can't talk to him because he might blow up at me, he just says that's my problem.
The other thing to mention is he can get back to thinking everything is normal pretty quickly after one of these spats, but it kills me so much it can take me a long time to come round. This causes more trouble, as he the accuses me of being stoney faced and cold. As you can imagine, we don't have much of an intimate relationship, which he sometimes says is the reason for his outbursts. I understand that, but unfortunately don't have much respect or desire for him.
I feel very depressed, anxious and sad at times. We have a young daughter who is often a bystander to these outbursts and it kills me to know this is affecting her.
I know you will say that I need to leave and I realise eventually it might be my only option, but does anyone have any suggestions for helping me to help him to help us? I spend a lot of time reading up how I can help and I do wonder if he is depressed, or has some other form of mental illness.

OP posts:
Bananalanacake · 14/01/2021 16:16

Does he have any good points. If he is mentally ill it is not your problem to fix.

classiestgal · 14/01/2021 16:17

I don’t but I’m following with interest as I’m in a similar position

PussGirl · 14/01/2021 16:21

He sounds awful. Leave him.

BumbleBiscuit · 14/01/2021 16:21

Life is too short for trash like this! Leave.

Costacoffeeplease · 14/01/2021 16:23

And you’re with him because....?

CatherinedeBourgh · 14/01/2021 16:24

Your question is exactly the problem. You keep thinking what you can do to mprove him and it enables him to keep blaming you for his failings.

If I were you I would just leave but if not or until you do I would just be brutal in telling him how it is, I would respond to every one of his statements with ‘not my fucking problem’ until one of you (or preferably both) starts to internalise it.

Constancevariable · 14/01/2021 16:27

I’ve been in this situation, drinking was also an issue that made things worse.

I have therapy sessions now with a lady who specialises in those areas and it’s something I wish I’d started years ago. I used to live on eggshells with a knot in my stomach, anything could trigger his anger and you’d never know when.

loopyapp · 14/01/2021 16:29

Let me ask you to imagine 20 years from now your daughter is wtitibg this post about her husband and your young granddaughter is a bystander .. What would you want for them?

Would you want your daughter to remain sad, anxious and confused as she tries to help her abusive husband with changes he is obviously utterly disinterested in making and continue to expose your grandchild to hugely toxic life lessons? Or would you prefer them to happy and safe away from tip toeing on eggshells to protect the fragile ego of an insecure bully?

gamerchick · 14/01/2021 16:30

We have a young daughter who is often a bystander to these outbursts and it kills me to know this is affecting her

You have a child watching all of this? Teaching her what kind of man she's going to hook up in the future if her mental health makes it out intact?

No. You can't help him, you need to remove that child away from this asap.

Alexandernevermind · 14/01/2021 16:30

I'm not usually one to shout LTB, but you need to get yourself and your daughter away from this bad tempered, abusive, controlling man immediately!

Alexandernevermind · 14/01/2021 16:31

@classiestgal please leave Flowers

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 14/01/2021 16:33

He jumps up and down biting himself in anger? Confused he's a grown man! Icojldmt put up with that. Honestly he needs to realise he has a problem and help himself. You can't fix him.

Tal45 · 14/01/2021 16:33

If you can't leave I'd really recommend trying to find a good counsellor, ours was very good when necessary at making OH realise that the problem actually lay with him.

Singlenotsingle · 14/01/2021 16:34

You've so so much patience, more than I would ever have. I'd have been gone long ago. Get out now. There's something gone wrong in his head, and it's not something you can fix!

Constancevariable · 14/01/2021 16:35

...and I always used to try and help, or research how I could help. In the end I had to realise that unless he wanted to change, or felt that he needed to then NOTHING that I did would help. At all. All it did was make him feel that I was being critical or controlling.

Codependent no more by Melody Beattie may be a good read...IMO it’s not just relevant to those in an alcohol problem situation but does tackle the issue of boundaries and why we try and fix other people.

ThisTooShallBe · 14/01/2021 16:35

The best way you can ‘help’ him OP is to tell him the consequence of him not helping himself to amend his behaviour: the break up of his family. This might make him think again. I doubt it though. He sounds like my XH, who never ‘got’ it. His behaviour was damaging to me and his DC so I ended it. We were both equally unhappy as we were in the wrong relationship, pure and simple. All is calm and happy now 😊

Aimee1987 · 14/01/2021 16:35

I think you need to talk to womens aid. He is verbally abusive and this has a high risk of escalating further into physical abuse. Read up on the cycle of abuse. Abusive men are not abusive all the time they have outburst that are explained away by xy and z. Then there the perfect partner untill the tension starts to build leading to the next outburst.
There is no fixing him. Please take your daughter and get out.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/01/2021 16:36

How can you be helped into leaving your abusive partner?. What is preventing you?.

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?. Did your dad abuse your mum too?. Present day that is what your DD is seeing now at first hand.

The only acceptable level of abuse in a relationship is none so this car crash of a relationship is over anyway.

You cannot act as a rescuer or saviour in any relationship and anyone who taught you that particular relationship lesson was wrong. Trying to will only destroy you and in turn your child who is seeing her mother being abused. What do you want to teach her about relationships and what is she learning here?.

noirchatsdeux · 14/01/2021 16:42

The only behavior you can control is your own. You can't fix him, he can only fix himself. You stated in your post that even after time has passed, he still sees himself as being in the right, and you are wrong. Those are not the words of a man who is going to acknowledge he has a problem to fix. He's going to say you are the one who needs to fix their behaviour, and he is right - the fix is removing yourself and your daughter from his abuse.

DeeCeeCherry · 14/01/2021 16:47

He is a nasty bully and he has taken away your voice. Rude, disrespectful, unmannerly, verbally aggressive. That's not love and care for your wife.

He is noise in your head that you've had to put up with for years.

I'm so very tired of these bullies that manage perfectly well to be civil to their mates and work colleagues, being described as possibly "mentally ill" because they're acting offensively towards their wives🙄

What about a woman's mental and emotional health, worn down by these types who see women as convenient, easy targets for bullying?

You have one life OP. There's no rewind. I hope one day you do leave him, for yourself and your daughter's sake, and live the life you deserve.

Don't grow old looking back over your life crying bitter tears over the waste of your good years for a man who doesn't deserve you, and will bring you no peace in years to come.

You're worth more than that.

goldfinchfan · 14/01/2021 16:59

OP your DP is harming you and your daughter but please also stop going out, this is how Covid is spreading

There is a lot of going out that is not essential for a Lockdown in a Pandemic.

Sassypants82 · 14/01/2021 17:06

Good God, genuinely, life is short. Why are you willing to waste yours being abused by this angry man? One day soon, ypu won't recognise yourself because he will have sucked all your joy from you. And your daughter, it's just all kinds of grim as to what she is learning by watching you both... LTB

katy1213 · 14/01/2021 17:14

Life is too short as others have said.Presumably, when things don't go his way at work, he has to rein in his behaviour. So if he can control himself there, he can control himself at home.
You'll soon be one of those pathetic women who apologises for her own shadow. Don't let him suck the life out of you!
Remember the person you were before you met him?

BadBear · 14/01/2021 17:15

Sorry OP but his behaviour is emotional abuse. You are now walking on eggshells so you don't end up displeasing him or worse aggravate him and that is no way to live your life.

It may be difficult to leave him since kids are involved but believe me you will feel so relieved once you're not around him. You may feel that you love him and you want to fix him but he can only fix himself and statistically emotional abusers never change even after years of therapy.

@goldfinchfan - you're assuming she's in the UK. Also domestic abuse, which is what this man is subjecting her to is a massive problem right now. Imagine being trapped with him in the house all day long.

evenBetter · 14/01/2021 17:18

It’ll be causing lifelong damage to the child to be in an abusive house, can she go and stay somewhere better, until you dump your shit boyfriend? Is she having counselling yet?

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