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Worst story of cheating - but have I over stepped?

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CUniverse · 15/12/2020 23:56

This is a very long story, I will start with the back story as condensed as possible.

I became pregnant after 1 year whirlwind relationship with someone I split up my previous relationship for. I was living Amsterdam at the time where he is from, but moved back to the UK 6 months in.
When I found out I was pregnant, I stayed in the UK, and he was saving money to move with me and we were due to live there.
He arrived when I was 6.5 months, everything was great and we were happy. It turned out though that the 3000 euro he had supposed to have saved for us and baby, he gambled away on online poker so he came empty handed. I funded everything.

Slowly, he started to become recluse, and disappeared after work instead of coming home so that he could find places to play poker, in casinos or online.
When I discovered this, I tried to urge him into GA, he went a few times, but eventually he was suicidal and depressed so I recommended he return back to the Netherlands. Our daughter was 1 by this time.

He went back, and after 3 months decided that he wouldn't return back to the UK, he hated it and missed his friends and family. Therefore the plan was to move there with our daughter. We did this, but it took me a year, long story.

He promised he had stopped gambling and was in a good place. Within weeks of arriving he went straight back into gambling, and also speaking to other women. During this time he was emotionally abusive and even struck me 3 times. I had an abortion because of how badly he treated me. The final straw was the fact that he slept with someone one random night, so I broke it off.
I was determined to stay in Amsterdam but eventually would find somewhere else and move out into my own place with my daughter, then suddenly he found a new girl, one week after I broke up with him on tinder. He told me he was in love with her instantly and that he wanted me and our daughter to leave the house for a week, so that she could move in and work from our place for a few days. This was within 3 days of meeting this girl on tinder. I refused to allow this, and he verbally abuse me to the point where I had to flee the country with our child. He knew we were leaving but he didn't care.

Within 6 weeks, he had broken up with the tinder girl and was begging from to come back, saying that he was depressed and didn't know who he was back then and wanted to give us another go. Of course I objected. For a whole year he tried everything, gave up gambling, became selfless instead of selfish and really showed me he was ready. So I told him I would consider returning mostly for our child.

By May 2020 we were locked down together in Amsterdam and I was working from home there and became pregnant. We were happy about it and he thought it was just what we needed to finally cement the return of our relationship.
I was reluctant to put a label on us though and said I needed time, because I was traumatised from what happened between us before. Especially the physical abuse. But he really seemed like a changed man, and in fact, he had a terribly childhood, so we put it down to that, and he said he would get therapy to address his issues.

In August we went on vacation everything was wonderful, and by September, something changed.

I went back to London for a couple weeks and I sensed something was off. I asked him outrightly, if he was seeing someone else while I was in London still.
He told me no.
I arrived in Amsterdam a week later, and checked his phone while he slept. It was almost completely clean, except he left a tiny piece of evidence, along with blonde hair all over the house and I managed to get a confession out of him after pressing him for a few days.
He had met the girl 3 weeks earlier and was sleeping with her. He told me he did it because I wouldn't go publicly official to our friends and family with him. He felt neglected and stressed after a year of trying to get me back.

I made up my mind there and then that I would get my revenge for him doing this too me again. In addition, he slept with her without protection and slept with me too, before the confession thus putting my health at risk which I couldn't forgive.

This is where it gets twisted.

I told him id forgive him and stay, for the sake of our kids and that I loved him. This was a lie, I was just plotting how to get him back.
Things went great the following weeks, I was acting the part of loving and forgiving girlfriend very easily. At some point I caught him on WhatsApp with the girl ( he had told me they had cut contact). She was pursing him, crying etc.. saying she was in love with him and heartbroken that he had too end it with her.
I took a huge step evading his privacy after this and I managed to install his WhatsApp on my laptop, so I was practically spying on every convo he was having. Eventually I told him he should meet up with her one final time and end it because i had to travel back to the Uk and I didn't want him to see her while I was gone.. or more like, I wanted to test if he would, knowing I would be able to see their convos.

When they met up he came back and asked me if I would consider a 3 way relationship with the two of them. Me being the primary. I told him I would consider it when returned from London.
Of course I had no intention to do so, but just wanted to see this girl face to face, (sick I know) so we all met up, discussed things, and well it was painful, but at the end, I told them they were not to see one another while I was away and I would consider the 3way after I had the baby.

While I was there, I was still connected to his WhatsApp as I mentioned and saw they had met 3 times. Which he lied about to my face.

Upon returning though, he ended it with her and said he wanted to focus on his family. Due to the fact that he met up with her while I was away, again displaying how little he respected me, I was driven even further by seeking revenge, so much that I didn't let on that I knew anything. So all these months of knowing what he has been up to, he is none the wiser.

The current situation is that he wants for sure that I move here permanently to Amsterdam once baby is born (in London) with our other child and we buy a new house, and start a fresh... however, of course, there is no way in hell I can do this after all this deceit. I cannot believe how badly I have allowed myself to be treated.

So, because I told him I had forgiven him, I was finding it impossible to go back on my word without admitting that I was spying the whole time. So I have been creatively (insanely) thinking of other ways out... of ways that will allow me to break up with him and him not having any power to force me to stay.

One night, after not checking his actual phone for a long time, I saw he had a dating app installed on his phone, but only once. after 6 consecutive days of checking, I didn't see it anymore. But I initially did check his phone because he was acting weird again all of a sudden.
So, I decided to re install the app I saw while he slept, and then I saw he was speaking to multiple women for 6 months, but had not met any of them. This inspired me to make a fake profile, with photos of a friend of mine he doesn't know.
He matched with my profile and is planning to meet up with this girl on Friday ( I am going back to the UK tomorrow for Christmas)...

Now, if you have gotten this far you may think this is the craziest story ever (and I have missed some crazy bits out)...and may be thinking I am insane for staying and more insane for spying...however, when you're with someone who won't let you go, it is so so so very hard to get out. Especially as his family are all so adamant that I give him chance after chance, and he guilt trips me constantly with his issues and tells me I am the only person who can make him happy. I know I have over stepped by spying on him this intensely, but, I became desperate. It has been a horrible few months being pregnant and dealing with all these revelations that I have made myself privy to by having so much access to his privacy.

I expect to be scolded and told how wrong I am and that I have overstepped, but, for the first time in months I finally feel like I can throw this at him (planning to meet the girl on the app) and he will accept that I can no longer stay with him after this and give in. I don't know how I will expose the fact that I know he has planned to meet a girl, but at this point, I just need to get out.

OP posts:
BigBaublesGalore · 16/12/2020 00:05

You need to leave him and stop playing games. It's not worth your own mental health is it? And it is absolutely cruel to put your children through this mess!

Move back to the Uk, block him (sorry but doesn't sound like he will give a shit) work on being a great mum to your babies

AIMD · 16/12/2020 00:06

I really hope this is a fake post. Sorry if it isn’t Op it just all seems so extreme. If this is all true then I feel really sorry for the child, soon to be children, stuck in the middle of this complete and utter mess.

Personally if I were you I would stay in London and look at setting up a home there for my children. Then tell him the relationship is over because he’s clearly not going to change and because the children deserve some stability!

The plotting is a bad idea and you don’t need to find reasons to leave him because you have plenty of reasons from the last few years.

Aquamarine1029 · 16/12/2020 00:11

Why do you think you need some big AH HA moment to finally leave this horrible man? He's given you more reasons than I can count to dump his sorry arse. You should have done so years ago. Aren't you sick of all these absurd games and lies?

sofato5miles · 16/12/2020 00:14

What have i just read? OP sort your shit out, leave this useless dickhead and get your kids sorted.

The fact that he doesn't block you from leaving the Netherlands with your child is the only good thing about him. Honestly. And that could change

CUniverse · 16/12/2020 00:14

@BigBaublesGalore thank you for saying it the way you see it. It sounds like a total mess when I say it out aloud. Thing is, it has gotten so bad, that I have only managed to tell one friend the whole truth about everything over these 7 years. I cannot tell my parents who are wonderful people because I am scared of hurting them, and them being afraid for me and everything I am putting myself and daughter through thus far. I walked away from him once, and this time just seems so much harder. He is guilting me into staying, and making me feel blame for his actions. Its so stifling that these games have been the only way I have seen to be be able to get out. I hate that I have taken it this far, and I for certain I won't be coming back to live here. It's just that he is expected to come to London to stay at my family home from next Tuesday and stay there with me and our daughter until the new baby is born. It brings me so much pain to have him insist on being there, that I have been desperately trying to find a way. that forces him to leave me alone and just allow me to parent our children in England.
I am prepared for him to have as much access to the kids as he possibly can, but I cannot live in Amsterdam with him, just so he can get his way.

@AIMD I wish this was a fake post. Actually reading it back, knowing I have missed even more crucial points, makes me feel sad to my core. I cannot believe that this story is my life. And yes, I think I have enough reasons to leave him without this last plot, but he doesn't.. he refuses to allow me to end it.

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Unicant · 16/12/2020 00:15

please just go back to London and block him on every channel of communication and never think of him again. This man hit you and repeatedly cheated on you. And he's an addict. He won't change. You are just enabling him not getting any type of revenge... theres no revenge you can get apart from moving on from this completely and living a happy and productive life free of this abuser.
Go and dont give him your address or your new phone number.

Unicant · 16/12/2020 00:16

And you need to tell your parents and friends everything.. you need their support. If you won't do this for yourself do it for your kids because this relationship is utterly toxic. Your kids will grow up watching their mother be abused and completely disrespected. Is that what you want?

Lora88 · 16/12/2020 00:17

This is ridiculous Why are you playing games with a serial cheat! Just move back to U.K. let him stay in Netherlands you and your child are better off without , block his number problem solved

AIMD · 16/12/2020 00:17

You don’t need his permission to end the relationship op. If your worries about him convincing you to stay then only tell him you have left for good once you are already in London.

Is he controlling.

SimplySusanna · 16/12/2020 00:17

Jeez.

Stop playing games, there are children involved. Take your dc back to the UK and once arrived message him and say you've decided you won't be going back and end it once and for all.

You don't need to justify it. He sounds like a loser and a scumbag.

CUniverse · 16/12/2020 00:18

@Aquamarine1029 because he refuses to acknowledge that I have reason enough already. He thinks that I should be able to forgive him. Due to the fact that he has not always been in his right mind when these horrible things have occured. And in between these bad times, we have a greta time together. So he has convinced himself that things aren't THAT bad. He thinks be leaving will be to purposely hurt him and out kids.

sofato5miles this is what I am scared of. His mum is quite informed and has already started speaking to him about his rights with our children. Luckily I am leaving tomorrow and I do not plan on moving back. I have not been able to admit any of this to him otherwise I know they would try to stop me. And frankly, I am a little scared of them, especially as I do not have any family here.

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MsDogLady · 16/12/2020 00:21

You don’t have to throw anything at him. He doesn’t have to accept anything. You can leave this gambling addicted, violent, emotionally abusive cheat at any time. Tell him this no longer works for you and get out. You need to protect your children. They will be so damaged from exposure to this train wreck.

BrimfulOfBaba · 16/12/2020 00:21

You are really naive if you think he will accept that you must now leave, when he has a pattern of always winning you back.

He can't make you come back to him, that's up to you. Just leave.

zeddybrek · 16/12/2020 00:21

OP, you sound like you have become someone or something else because of this man.

I don't say this often but LTB.

You deserve so much better and this man has treated you very badly.

CUniverse · 16/12/2020 00:24

@Unicant this is what I did the first time in 2018... I left and had no communication with him, other than he was sending money for our daughter every month.

Along with the gambling he has developed a cocaine addiction too. As in, the weeks we were not with him, he was binging for 3 days each week on it with friends. I was told this boy someone who was witness to it all. They all were worried how he was expecting to have his family move back to living with him after he has spiralled into this lifestyle. However, when we are here, he doesn't do it, and he doesn't know I am aware of it either.
It is so much worse that I can even begin to explain. And this is why I wanted to get revenge. Last time he got away with destroying me, I was so unwell mentally after what I endured... and he got away with it. He pulled me back into his life, and now, with another baby in tow, he is going to get away with it again.

Why should she get off Scott free? Somehow, I will feel some kind of relief if I am able to pull the rug from underneath him. Call me crazy, but me just blocking him isn't enough. I want to expose him.. and eventually will tell all his friends and family too. Which he has begged me not to.

OP posts:
BigBaublesGalore · 16/12/2020 00:25

[quote CUniverse]@BigBaublesGalore thank you for saying it the way you see it. It sounds like a total mess when I say it out aloud. Thing is, it has gotten so bad, that I have only managed to tell one friend the whole truth about everything over these 7 years. I cannot tell my parents who are wonderful people because I am scared of hurting them, and them being afraid for me and everything I am putting myself and daughter through thus far. I walked away from him once, and this time just seems so much harder. He is guilting me into staying, and making me feel blame for his actions. Its so stifling that these games have been the only way I have seen to be be able to get out. I hate that I have taken it this far, and I for certain I won't be coming back to live here. It's just that he is expected to come to London to stay at my family home from next Tuesday and stay there with me and our daughter until the new baby is born. It brings me so much pain to have him insist on being there, that I have been desperately trying to find a way. that forces him to leave me alone and just allow me to parent our children in England.
I am prepared for him to have as much access to the kids as he possibly can, but I cannot live in Amsterdam with him, just so he can get his way.

@AIMD I wish this was a fake post. Actually reading it back, knowing I have missed even more crucial points, makes me feel sad to my core. I cannot believe that this story is my life. And yes, I think I have enough reasons to leave him without this last plot, but he doesn't.. he refuses to allow me to end it.[/quote]
Get to the Uk and report him to the police immediately for the 3 times he hit you and file a restraining order against him.

Forget what your parents think and how guilty you feel for them and what you have and haven't told them... what about your children? They need to come first.

Many women keep dv secret and don't tell their friends and family but it really matters not what anyone else thinks, you need to get away from him and so do your children

Notapheasantplucker · 16/12/2020 00:25

Ffs I've got a headache after reading that.
I'm glad you're leaving tomorrow and I really hope you won't be daft enough to have a relationship with him anymore nevermind move back there!
He sounds like a waste of space.

CUniverse · 16/12/2020 00:29

I have become a wreck. I admit. It has gone completely out of control. However, from tomorrow I am free of him.
I have already looked into Child maintenance from abroad.. because he doesn't deserve to not pay for his kids, and I have already warned my family I won't be returning with him But just not told them why.

My only problem left, if that how do I get him not to join me in London in a few days? This is why I made the fake profile to have a reason to stop him from coming. Now that I can prove he is planning to meet yet another woman on Friday, 2 days after I leave.

OP posts:
CUniverse · 16/12/2020 00:30

@zeddybrek.. what does LTB mean?

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Thickhead · 16/12/2020 00:31

Jesus Christ op just leave him and get your kids away from him as soon as you can. Don't waste time on stupid games.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 16/12/2020 00:31

Ffs OP, you need to grow up this is so ridiculous and unnecessary. Just take your child back to the UK and block him and his family. I don't understand why you don't justice him how you know. Get home, then text and tell him what you know and block.
This is just so ridiculous! I can't believe someone would play these games.

MaizeBlouse · 16/12/2020 00:32

Jesus. This would he a mess if children weren't involved, I'm sorry OP but I pity your poor child in the middle of this.

Seriously, grow up and take some responsibility for your child.

Who gives a fuck if he deems the relationship over or not? Just leave, for all the reasons the other posters have said.

Imagine if all that time and energy you invested in spying and plotting on your loser boyfriend had been spent on your kid instead, who is stuck in the middle of all this. Honestly, if I were you I'd be ashamed.

Badwill · 16/12/2020 00:33

I think you need some help OP... really I do Sad these games are nonsensical. The man is a wife beater. Just take your child and go. Stop inventing crazy scenarios and excuses. Either you were unstable when you met him or you've been caught up in this abusive madness for so long you've lost your grip on reality.

Just go, contact a solicitor and speak with him through legal channels only.

Badwill · 16/12/2020 00:34

Tell your family

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