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Found hidden booze

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northsouth1 · 27/11/2020 23:41

My fiancé (we were due to get married this year but moved to next year due to COVID) and I have a good relationship. He's kind and caring and respectful and treats me well. We've been together 5 years.

He has a history of using alcohol as a bit of a crutch when life gets too much. He's never been addicted to alcohol but gets very drunk, say once a month, when life gets stressful. He's engaged in reckless behaviour in the past when drunk. I've given him a lot of support with his drinking and been through difficult times. He's also a great support to me in an everyday sense.

He's had a stressful time at work recently. A professional disagreement with his employer. No risk of losing his job but it's been an upsetting experience for him. It was fortunately resolved today after a meeting with his boss that went well. He has a professional job with a good income. We are fortunate that COVID hasn't given us money worries.

He got drunk about 2 weeks ago after a disagreement we had. I can't remember what it was about now - nothing major but small thongs are getting on top of him just now. He was quite nasty although I didn't behave that well either so I accept my share in the row.

I notice that he tends to be a bit unpleasant before a booze blow out. Nothing major - just bites my head off out of the blue. He's been doing that this week.

Recently he's tended to get 2 large bottles of beer (equivalent to 2.5 pints) from the shop when he's stressed. Maybe twice a week on average but one of these is usually on a Friday night - I don't grudge him a couple of beers after a week at work. It does only tend to be when he's stressed though, never to be social. He does tend to drink them before dinner, which I think is to maximise the effect of the booze. He claims he just prefers to have a drink before food, which I think is partially true but, that he also gets more of a dunt that way.

Tonight he went to the shop and came back with 2 beers and some treats for me. He had the 2 beers, then we had dinner. We were just watching TV and I received a call from a friend who's going through a break up. I was on the call for about an hour and when I came off he was in the garage tinkering with his bike.

He was slurring his words which was odd as he'd only had 2 beers and had eaten a meal with them. He then fell asleep on the sofa.

I had a look around the garage and found a bottle of whiskey in the grass box of the lawnmower. I've never known him to drink whiskey, but I know a client sent him a gift to his office recently so suspect that's where he got it. We've been working from home but he had to pop into the office for a meeting about 2 or 3 weeks ago so I suspect he picked it up then.
I've taken a picture of the bottle and put it back. I originally removed it but don't want him to know yet. I have a picture which shows how much is left. There's about a quarter of the 750ml bottle left. The line is right on the bottom of the label so I'll be able to tell if there's more gone. I panicked and went through his phone when he was asleep though so he might sense something is up.

I'm shocked and alarmed about this find. I'm fairly certain this bottle is the first time he's ever done this. He gets drunk very easily so if he had done this before then I'd have noticed. Thinking back, there was a night earlier this week when I did think there was something a bit off, he was speaking as if his mouth was a bit dry. I knew he hadn't been out to get booze. We don't keep any in the house, so I never thought he'd been drinking but looking back I think he probably had some from the bottle. I doubt he had all of what's gone just tonight, although as I say if he's had it on other occasions it must have been small amounts at a time as he gets drunk easily.

He was drunk 2 weeks ago but he openly had a bottle of wine, and he wasn't drunk enough then to have had wine plus a lot of whiskey.

He knows that I don't approve of him drinking to drown his sorrows and that it makes me upset and anxious. I've spoken to him about it. He tends to get very defensive.

What do I do about it? I know that I need to speak to him. I'm heading out to meet a friend tomorrow morning - he'll likely be in bed hungover. I don't think doing it with him hungover is the answer.

Do I speak to him right away or wait so see what happens to the bottle?

Sorry this is long and not particularly concise - I'm tired and my head is spinning just now.

OP posts:
sunshinesheila · 28/11/2020 22:47

Alcoholic rule no1.... learn to lie.
Drink comes first every time.

They are good at hiding it op. Horrible thing to live with the deeper they get.

Thefirsttime · 28/11/2020 23:24

Sorry you’re having a rough time OP. I don’t want to repeat what lots of other posters have said as although I agree with them, I’m not sure you’ll find it that helpful if I add to the chorus.

However, I wanted to say this Someone doesn't just start off hiding booze in the lawnmower. which @glitterfarts said. I am sorry, but there is no way this is the beginning or the first time he’s drunk in secret. Alcoholism doesn’t begin with hiding whiskey in the lawnmower, you’ve got to have developed a serious problem to get to that point. This is the first time you’ve found his hiding place, but I’m certain that this isn’t the first time he’s hidden booze or drunk it covertly.

Badwill · 29/11/2020 07:34

It's evident you haven't dealt with alcoholism in your family background OP.

I wish you well but I hope you leave him. The chances of this ending well for you are slim.

getsomehelp · 29/11/2020 11:04

So did the level go down ?

Their are loads of places to hide booze in full view. decant into other recipients, hidden in boots,
I once found empty vodka bottles behind the washing machine. (rental property)
Whisky however does smell, I'd be surprised if you hadn't smelt it before.
He may (just, may) be hiding it because he knows you watch his every move.
He can easily find the opportunity to drink, you go to the loo, shower, etc
But needing the emergency stash is obviously the beginning of a downward spiral.
What did he say?

Sssloou · 29/11/2020 11:29

@northsouth1 I have noticed how you have worked really hard in a logical / intellectual way to draw distinctions between substance abuse, addiction, alcoholism and problem drinking......and maybe have settle on one descriptor that is tolerable to you.

Really they are just different words describing the same outcome.

AA define alcoholism not by what you drink, how much you drink, when you drink, where you drink, how often you drink etc....but by how this habit impacts the relationships of the people around you.....

Even if he was a lightweight he needs to know and respect his personal limits and how if even after 2.5 pints of beer he ends up slurring, pissing himself, violently throwing up, staggering into a radiator, biting your head off and engineering rows - that this behavioural outcome is not acceptable and that HE needs to change by ditching the two beers.

It sounds like you have tried and tried and tried to manage his drinking in the past - the outcome is that it has gone under ground - when you thought it was resolved.

I am sorry this is so shocking for you and it is understandable and a standard part of shock is disbelief. I suspect you have invested so much in this RS - but you need to emotionally detach in your head - pan back to get perspective and get some support for you to see how you can best get through this - have a look at Al Anon - they are online in place to support the families of those in trouble.

Dummiesarethebiz · 29/11/2020 16:37

Alcoholism is a progressive disease and as time goes on the drinking increases and so does the length the alcoholic goes to hide it. If he ever drinks bottled water give it a sniff it may be vodka, cans of coke could be full of Bacardi. I’d agree with others that the reason he gets drunk easily is that he’s drinking more than you think.

I recognise my former DH in what you write, using drinking when he’s stressed by work but really it could be any reason. In my case the drinking escalated to drink driving and that’s when I called it a day. However, in doing so it caused my DH to seek help and he was sober for over 6 years. He’s relapsed since and is working on his sobriety again but who knows if he can bring it back. But I think it’s worth considering he may never conquer it.

So much of what you’ve written about your partner and your belief about him not drinking secretly reminds me so much of how I was years ago. If you can get yourself to Al Anon I’d recommend it as the stories you hear will reflect your own. Good Luck.

Peanutbutterjelly10 · 29/11/2020 19:23

Op you keep saying you're not naive but you keep making excuses for him. Which is enabling.
Your partner is an alcoholic there is no other way to dress it up. When this started is irrelevant now. It's got to the point where he clearly needs help, he shouldn't be wetting himself and being violently sick.

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