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Partner not contributing enough

98 replies

yourstruley · 26/11/2020 11:06

My partner thinks I'm being completely unreasonable. So I could do with some advice.

My partner works full time and earns about 1600 a month.
I'm on UC and do not work, I've recently given birth to my 2nd DD.
We have been separated for quite a while and decided to give things another go.
My issue is he sends me 500 a month to help towards the house bills and the kids.
He says that the kids are already being supported via UC so they're set.
The bills come out of my account and I use my benefits to pay off the utilities etc.
Which totals up to 350.
Sometimes more due to being in debt.
However my issue is from his salary he only contributes 500 out of the month.

Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
TheFormerPorpentinaScamander · 26/11/2020 12:55

Its still CM though and therefore not included for UC calculations.

Pumpkinpied · 26/11/2020 12:58

So he wants the benefit system to house him and his family?

4starbie · 26/11/2020 12:59

My advice is, you tell him he either contributes more... as in he makes up the loss you lose from uc if you're on a joint claim, or he simply can't move back in and has to leave and live separately and pay maintenance instead (which isn't counted on uc). Do this before you declare to uc he's living with you again. If you've already done that, don't worry, just get him out and tell uc you made a mistake and need to go back to single claim, lots of people do this, it's not good but it happens.

Me and my partner don't live together yet, but when we do he's aware he needs to pay the rent and bills because I earn very little and my uc will reduce massively with him here. It's not fair what your partner is doing. It's actually a form of financial abuse.

movingonup20 · 26/11/2020 13:06

If you live together you need to immediately tell uc otherwise it's fraud.

movingonup20 · 26/11/2020 13:09

Personally I think you need to ask him to leave if he's not willing to pool resources, end of

yourstruley · 26/11/2020 13:13

I actually applied for CM a few months ago when2nd DD was born and they've gotten back to me with £560 a month entitlement, they calculated his wage before any deductions.
He opted in a investment scheme at his job which he pays £300, and he has a car allowance Which is £400, so they've calculated it based on his income before any deductions.

I'd still be getting my full UC/ child benefit towards everything so I'd ménage better without him.
My only issue now is i feel played and lied to, I told him I don't want to commit benefit fraud and that I'd like to calculate everything and sort out our finances.

He seems more than happy to just send me 500 a month and keep whatever he's getting to himself. He claims that I'd be earning more as well so it works out better for the both of us Confused I'm pretty sure he's only looking out for himself.

I've already notified UC, and I'm just waiting for them to get back to me.

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TheFormerPorpentinaScamander · 26/11/2020 13:16

He must earn far more than £1600 per month if that's what the CMS calculated!

yourstruley · 26/11/2020 13:18

I pay all the bills including the council tax which I'm behind on using my benefits.
As I have no other source of income.
I applied for CM and they've sent me what I was entitled for but he has begged me not to to take it further.
And agreed he'd only send 400. Which is what he was giving me whilst we were separated.
Now it's only been a few weeks that he's been back( sorry I know I said says earlier in my post) and he just sent me 500.
All the household bills (inc bills I'm behind on) comes to 500 anyway so.

OP posts:
Heyahun · 26/11/2020 13:20

How is he supposed to pay his own rent and bills if he gives you all his money?

IndecentFeminist · 26/11/2020 13:21

How much is the rent or is that included in the £500?

yourstruley · 26/11/2020 13:21

Yes he earns way more than that, but after deductions including extra tax and student finance it all comes to 1600 per month and he also pays 300 towards a saving pot / investment I think 💭 at his work.

I feel like I'm just blabbing on but I it seems like he's benefiting much more than I am

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IndecentFeminist · 26/11/2020 13:21

"all his money" 😂

He lives there too.

Heyahun · 26/11/2020 13:23

ah i see he's moved back in - the first post made it seem they lived separately

Heyahun · 26/11/2020 13:23

if you live together then yeah pool all the money!

Do you plan on going back to work at all?

MsTSwift · 26/11/2020 13:27

Angers me these feckless men abdicate supporting their families to the tax payer.

knittingaddict · 26/11/2020 13:27

@Heyahun

How is he supposed to pay his own rent and bills if he gives you all his money?
Have you actually read the thread? I assume not.
WellIWasInTheNeighbourhoo · 26/11/2020 13:28

So his actual salary is more like £2.5k / month - which means your UC claim will be over as you wont get anything on that salary. So he is expecting all your joint rent, bills, food, child expenses to be covered by £500 while he pockets £2k. Get rid.

yourstruley · 26/11/2020 13:44

He would be paying his own bills, because he never paid any bills whether it's with me or at his parents, so he'll be good either way.
The rent is 400 but uc pay that, I'm currently not working and haven't been for two years since giving birth to my 1st DD.

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yourstruley · 26/11/2020 13:45

*wouldnt

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Pumpkinpied · 26/11/2020 13:48

That's even worse. You'll already owe a lot from the overpayment and it's unlikely you'll be entitled to any UC going forward and he wants to pay £500! You can't afford to have him there.

mineandyours · 26/11/2020 14:03

Erm... sounds like you're committing benefits fraud.

Like PP have said, you're better off financially living separately. Unless you continue to plan on committing benefits fraud. And him paying you £500 from a £1600 wage is pretty good going.

yourstruley · 26/11/2020 14:11

Errrmm.... no one is committing benefit fraud as UC know he's back now.

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yourstruley · 26/11/2020 14:14

I'd never do that I'm just shocked at his lack of responsibility whilst wanting me to do 100% of the cooking and cleaning SadConfused

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Groovinpeanut · 26/11/2020 14:18

OP... For yours and your kids sales get rid!
You're going to end up in real trouble and serious debt if you're found to be commiting benefit fraud and having to pay back the overpayment of UC.
He's onto a cushy number and he knows it. He's basically living with you, having all his comforts met, investing in his future, and all for the princely sum of £500 a month.
You're right he's played you, and he's quite happy you potentially being prosecuted, and UC keeping his kids. He's not with you for love or family life. He's onto a good thing, you need to get rid.
Just contact UC and say that you have decided that a relationship isn't progressing to living together now, and get your finances back. You'll be having to ask him for every penny if you have to rely on him, and it'll only be £500 a month. It's YOU getting into debt not him.

frewer · 26/11/2020 14:25

What a shame OP! He's conned you big time, you're far too nice for a scrounger like him.

How often did his mum he have the children when he lived at his parents?

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