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Bf too dependent on friend?

75 replies

wontgetfooledagain123 · 07/10/2020 21:55

Use MN regularly but NC as details here could be outing. Apologies for length but didn't want to dripfeed.

I'm mid 30s and have a new bf (few months) who's the same age. We get on really well, the chemistry is great, and I really like him. I got divorced some years ago and now ready to settle down and have kids. He knows this, and we both agree this has potential and he has said that he'll be honest with me if he doesn't see a future as he doesn't want to waste my time. We're both happy with how it's progressing.

However, there is something that has me a bit concerned but I'm not sure if I'm just being paranoid. So could use some straight talking MN advice.

He has never had a gf before me. Which did surprise me as he's very attractive, good job, smart, funny, kind etc. When I asked him about it, he said it's because his job has unsociable hours (it does) and he's spent many years working and qualifying. He also lived with his mum till very recently but has now bought his own place and finally living alone. I assumed that living with his mum for many years may have put off some women as well. But he's been a good bf so far so his lack of relationship experience doesn't bother me.

However, I have now clocked that there might be another reason he has been single all these years. He has a very good female friend, who he met as the wife of an old friend. He and the husband were very good mates but he is now closer to her than him. Nothing strange there and I have many male friends so haven't thought anything about it till recently.

A couple of incidents made me wonder though: e.g she discusses things with him that she doesn't with her husband (e.g her worries about periods/not wanting to get pregnant etc). OR he send her selfies of himself when he thinks he's looking good at work OR he gets her to proof read his work emails before he sends them. Also he discusses with me a lot her worries about her husband's job fears. But when i went through something similar to her husband he wasn't that bothered.

I jokingly asked him if the reason he was always single was because she met his emotional needs and made a gf redundant. He admitted that other friends of theirs had said the same thing about their friendship. But there was nothing between them, she was just naturally maternal and cared about him. And he didn't have feelings for her.

The thing that really annoyed me is that he then told her what i had said about their emotional dependency, to get her advice on what to do!!!! He also admits he shares with her screenshots of messages I've sent and details of any little disagreements we have, to get advice.

I think I was willing to write off my own alarm bells as me being insecure, but the fact that her friends and his have said the same, makes me nervous. It feels a bit like there's a 3rd party in our relationship and the level of impact she has on him worries me. E.g we have unprotected sex now (am on pill) but he decided he wanted to use condoms because she had a pregnancy scare and seeing her anxiety over it made him want to avoid that problem. He didn't even ask my opinion on if it's what I wanted. Just sprung it on me during sex.

So, my question is, do you think I am right to be concerned about how close they are? Could it cause problems? Or am I just being paranoid and need a chill pill? Am just wary of time wasting/getting hurt. We haven't met yet but with covid etc we haven't gotten around to the meet friends/family stage anyway.

OP posts:
KurriKawari · 07/10/2020 22:00

I rarely say this but please run!!

noego · 07/10/2020 22:05

Three's a crowd.

Namechangedforthisoct2 · 07/10/2020 22:08

Hills are that way >>>>>

Savemyusername · 07/10/2020 22:08

Very very weird.

hugocat · 07/10/2020 22:10

This is very weird. Creepy in fact , get out now. How dare he tell her such personal stuff about what you two talk about .

TwentyViginti · 07/10/2020 22:11

He also admits he shares with her screenshots of messages I've sent and details of any little disagreements we have, to get advice.

That would be it, for me.

He's far more into her than he is to you.

Aerial2020 · 07/10/2020 22:11

No way.
Don't get dragged into whatever is going on there.

Aerial2020 · 07/10/2020 22:12

Yes, I agree that is creepy. Esp about the condoms

Opentooffers · 07/10/2020 22:17

From what I can see, it's already causing a problem. I think most people would take issue with their BF sharing relationship issues with another woman. You've probably found the reason, he may hold back from the physical out of respect for his friend, but I'll bet he thinks about what could be now and then.

WhatInTheHell · 07/10/2020 22:18

Been through this..

Leave while you still can! It will only get worse and probably more secretive the more you express your concerns.

PostItJoyWeek · 07/10/2020 22:18

I'd dump him for sharing private things. Sending screenshots of your private messages is not OK.

JudyGemstone · 07/10/2020 22:22

I'm not a jealous person but this would piss me right off.

I've got loads of good male friends but I'm fucked if I'd talk to them in depth about my periods!

Weird

Plumplumbadum · 07/10/2020 22:25

You're the third person in their relationship.
This means you will always be the number two woman in his life. My advice is to get out before you get in too deep.

Blavatskyite · 07/10/2020 22:27

I would peg him as having been single forever because he finds it easier to delegate ownership of his emotional life to a woman who ‘mothers’ him and requires no commitment in return. It’s a bit like the kind of person who stays living at home well into their thirties, despite being in relationships, because someone cooks their dinner and they can watch tv in peace. Both fundamentally juvenile. He takes your tiffs to her like a five year old bringing home craftwork from school, or getting a grownup to tie his shoelaces.

I would find this about as attractive as a cup of cold sick. Quite apart from not particularly wanting my private communications with my boyfriend being shown to and analysed by someone else.

seensome · 07/10/2020 22:28

Too emotionally connected to her, drop him
Pictures, period and pregnancy talk is all too much, I don't blame you for not liking that level of intimacy.

onemorecupofcoffeefortheroad · 07/10/2020 22:29

Yep get out while u can. I never say this but trust me I've been there and made that mistake and it was awful.

rorosemary · 07/10/2020 22:29

It sounds like she and her opinions is his priority, so that would be a dealbreaker for me. I would tell him (and her) that. They need to decide between themselves to cool it off or go on like this. But I wouldn't want to be a part of it.

seensome · 07/10/2020 22:33

Also who would want another women sticking her ore in when you've had a disagreement, he screen shots messages of yours to her? He's not capable to have a relationship without her being part of it, too much!

Blavatskyite · 07/10/2020 22:34

I mean, I don’t they’re having an affair, even an emotional one. But he’s fundamentally emotionally unintelligent if he’s thick enough to tell you he’s using a condom because of her pregnancy scare, and probably expects you to find it thoughtful.

Will you be happy if you have children to have him consulting her about sleep training and quoting her reverently, regardless of whether she has children or any experience of childcare?

AfterSchoolWorry · 07/10/2020 22:35

Oh hell no.

Opentooffers · 07/10/2020 22:35

It's one of a few things that irked me about an ex, he could say or do something out of order, but wouldn't be able to take my word for it, however, after talking one incident through with his best mate, who actually came down on my side, he was then all apologetic, totally saw my point of view. He's taken other mates advice on dealing with situations as gospel, it's like he doesn't have a mind of his own and has to check with others. These are male friends, but it's still irritating.

TeamLannister · 07/10/2020 22:35

All sounds a bit Charles and Camilla. I'd be away like the wind.

Dollyrocket · 07/10/2020 22:38

This would really put me off him and would unnerve me wondering what else she knew about me. Sharing your messages is such a breach of trust. Surely this woman’s husband must find the whole thing strange too.

I’d walk away now and be very clear why.

Also, him living at home with mummy till recently (at his age) would also be a major turn off for me. He seems to have surrounded himself with mummy’sConfused

Blavatskyite · 07/10/2020 22:41

@Opentooffers

It's one of a few things that irked me about an ex, he could say or do something out of order, but wouldn't be able to take my word for it, however, after talking one incident through with his best mate, who actually came down on my side, he was then all apologetic, totally saw my point of view. He's taken other mates advice on dealing with situations as gospel, it's like he doesn't have a mind of his own and has to check with others. These are male friends, but it's still irritating.
Yes, this is my father, alas. His friend (in fact a rather ignorant man but with a penchant for giving advice) is his personal guru on everything from electrical goods to mortgages, and nothing is in fact true till Tony has passed it as legit. I have made myself deeply unpopular by pointing out that I have a PhD in the field where a Tony has done a quick google, that Tony is frequently wrong, and to beg to be omitted from Tony’s latest aperçu into Covid or Brexit.

Probably why the OP’s boyfriend annoyed me so much!

ladykuga · 07/10/2020 22:45

E.g we have unprotected sex now (am on pill) but he decided he wanted to use condoms because she had a pregnancy scare and seeing her anxiety over it made him want to avoid that problem. He didn't even ask my opinion on if it's what I wanted. Just sprung it on me during sex.

BIN HIM OFF! What has her supposed pregnancy anxiety got to do with your sex life? Is her "anxiety" contagious? This is all sorts of wrong.

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