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Final straw and I'm ending it today but I'm just so sad about it.

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ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 09:28

I started a thread about my relationship last weekend. The advice was all good - largely that I should talk to him about it.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/4035084-He-doesnt-love-me-Stay-or-go-WWYD

I didn't have chance to speak to him during the week so I thought I'd wait and see how the weekend played out.

And this is how it has gone.

I arrived at his on Friday evening after an awful week at work. I was exhausted and emotionally drained. He asked how my day had been. I said that it hadn't been great and had cried 3 times at work which is very unlike me. I said I'd spoken to a colleague at the end of the day (as an explanation for arriving at his a bit late) and he said, "oh good. So you've offloaded already. Not that I don't want to hear about it..." but he didn't want to hear about it.

Last night, we went out with friends. We arrived at the pub and he made a quip about my parking along the lines of, "no, it's fine, why take one parking space when you can take up two". I said it was fine and told him to get out and check. I was within the lines but the angle was a bit squiffy. So he 'supposed' it was the perfect parking for someone who drives a convertible.

We got into the pub and he pretty much ignored me. I felt uncomfortable all night and realised it was because the last time we'd seen these friends, he'd made an 'innocent' comment afterwards about me talking too much.

I went outside for a smoke and there were 3 early 20s lads out there who were clearly a bit tipsy. One came over and started chatting to me. He said my boyfriend was a lucky man and earnestly told me I was beautiful several times in that way that drunk lads do 🙄 I told him that, at 45, I was old enough to be his mother and to have a good night. But it made me feel a bit sad to realise that, in the year we've been together, my boyfriend has never told me that or complimented me very much at all really.

I got back inside and there was another mutual friend standing at our table (in a mask of course). Haven't seen him for months. He was telling my boyfriend how lucky he was to be with me, that I'm beautiful, lovely and a keeper etc. I just felt embarrassed and shame at him saying it because I know that isn't how this man sees or feels about me at all.

One of the women asked how work was going and how we were managing with the covid restrictions (which have been why work was so difficult last week). I gave her a brief overview as much as anything because I wanted him to hear just how bad it had been. He said nothing. She was appalled by what she heard (and rightly so) and said at least I had a sympathetic ear and indicated him. I said nothing. But I realised that he just doesn't care.

We got home and chatted for a bit. He described an experience that made him understand why women don't appreciate compliments from random men and we talked about that for a while. He told me that he has often offered compliments to random strangers but wouldn't again. He said that only last week he saw a woman in the supermarket who had "the most amazing hair" he'd ever seen and so he'd told her so. He said he wasn't trying to hit on her but had just thought something nice about her and so wanted to tell her. All I can take from that is that he never thinks anything nice about me given that he doesn't compliments me. I mean, he's told me a few times I look nice before a night out and that my hair looks nice when I've straightened it but that's not a lot in a year when he felt compelled to approach a complete stranger last week.

I was just feeling pretty shit by then so went to sit in another room on my own for a bit. He said he was going up to hed and he'd see me soon and kissed me before he went up. Again, I realised it was the first time he'd kissed me since I arrived the previous day. I sat with my thoughts for a while before going up to bed.

I lay on my back next to him. Normally, I'm quite affectionate but obviously wasn't feeling it. He put his arm around me for a while as usual and then he placed his hand on my stomach for a while and, again, I realised that it was months since he'd done that.

I'm at his now and about to start working. I'm going to talk to him when he wakes and end it.

Sorry for chapter and verse, I just needed to get it out and I need to hear that there isn't an alternative, reasonable, excusable explanation for any of this.

I also think that I want to explain but also think he'll just boil it down to me overreacting, being needy and upset that he said something nice to someone else when it's none of those things.

Thanks.

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MushMonster · 04/10/2020 20:22

It is good that you managed to part as friends. It happens sometimes, there is initial attraction but it fizzes out or you are not compatible enough.
Take care of yourself and hope you find the one soonFlowers

Isolatedizzy · 04/10/2020 20:30

You've done the right thing even if it feels sad now! I actually think you've been very brave.
It would have been so easy to just plod on!
Well done!

ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 20:33

Well, I dont think we'll actually be friends but, as our paths will cross again, it was important that it was friendly at least.

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ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 20:36

Isolatedizzy

Thanks. I would actually have found it harder to carry on. It was soul destroying really.

Tbh, I couldn't really get any sense of how he felt about it. He said he wasn't surprised and wanted to part on good terms.

To be honest, I thought he sounded a little choked when we said our goodbyes. He was very quiet and his voice cracked. Ironic that that should be the first time I had any sense of emotion from him.

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SoulofanAggron · 04/10/2020 20:45

Some people reserve being cold or obnoxious to those supposedly closest to them.

Not everyone is good at confrontation and that's ok. If you find you want to say more you could email him or something, then block him. It might help if you feel you've been assertive eventually, that way you might find you stew less over all the ways he acted.

But what you've done right now is also reasonable if you feel ok about it, as you say you have mutual friends/might run into him sometimes.

Please don't get back with him at any point. xxx

EvaHoffman · 04/10/2020 20:58

You are presenting all of this as being about him and asking us to analyse his behaviour so we will give you permission to end it.

His behaviour isn't terrible but if it is making you unhappy then you have to end it. It has taken me 60 years to realise this and I want to shout it from the roof tops. ALL that matters is that you feel comfortable and happy in a relationship. Nobody on MN or anywhere else can tell you how you feel. The fact that you have started two threads about this suggests to me that you aren't happy. Listen to YOUR needs and feelings. Stop analysing his behaviour and instead think about how you feel when you are with him. Trust your feelings.

ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 21:03

Please don't get back with him at any point

I won't.

EvaHoffman

I've ended it.

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Bluetrews25 · 04/10/2020 21:13

You've done the right thing.
Please eat chocolate and/or cake. These will heal you. Wink

So, the mutual friend in the pub singing your praises.....single??
Onwards and upwards.

ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 21:27

So, the mutual friend in the pub singing your praises.....single??

No.

And besides, he's great as a mate but wouldn't touch him with a barge pole otherwise.

But I'm staying single now. I only gave this guy a chance because I'd fancied him for years. I'd already decided I was going to be single.

I'm weary of it all now.

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widespreadpanic · 04/10/2020 21:31

Good for you!

My ex was like this and after awhile I was sad and lonely. Some of us need a more demonstrative partner even if they are an all around good person.

Hopefully you will find that one day!

PatchworkElmer · 04/10/2020 21:42

Well done @ColdLeatherSofa you’ve done the right thing. Time to move on now.

justilou1 · 04/10/2020 21:58

Please don’t try to look for depth where there wasn’t. He showed you all he was. When someone shows you and tells you who they are, that’s it.... believe it. There will be a next time though, and it will be glorious.

ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 22:00

There will be a next time though, and it will be glorious.

There won't. There never has been.

It's fine. I guess some people just dont ever find what they're looking for.

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newnameforthis123 · 04/10/2020 23:46

@ColdLeatherSofa

There will be a next time though, and it will be glorious.

There won't. There never has been.

It's fine. I guess some people just dont ever find what they're looking for.

I've been where you are now and it's entirely possible you'll meet someone where it isn't like this. Where there isn't drama and bad feeling and second guessing. Obviously not everyone gets that and fuck me I used to feel so patronised when people said it but I was the biggest cynic and have found it. I feel so lucky but also feel appreciated and vindicated that I was right to leave my previous unhappy relationships and understand that it's better to be single than in a toxic relationship that makes you feel shit. I'm now in a lovely relationship after many abusive ones but if I wasn't I would rather be single and only change that for the right person. Again I would probably think I was a dick saying that when I was fresh out of the others but now I know it's true that you can still meet someone you feel calm, relaxed and appreciated by.
ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 23:58

newnameforthis123

I don't think you're a dick. I appreciate your optimism!! Wink

I just can't see it myself now. I don't date, I'm not looking, I work in an all female environment,none of my friends have single male friends
This guy is literally the only one! Grin

I don't flirt with men, I avoid them in pubs. Seriously, I dont see how the opportunity would arise, tbh.

I'd rather be single.

I'm still sad about it but I also feel like a huge weight has been lifted.

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newnameforthis123 · 05/10/2020 00:38

Preferring to be single is actually a plus IMO as it means you won't be with just anyone, you'll wait for someone who convinces you otherwise! I also had some counselling and really invested in self care after my last break up and my god it made such a difference. When I dated again I felt no guilt about having clear boundaries and sticking to them. Google the shark cage analogy too, I found that really helpful. You sound great, maybe you just need a rest and a reboot and see how you feel after that Thanks

justilou1 · 05/10/2020 07:02

Please listen to @newnameforthis123. She’s exactly right, and she’s basically telling my story too. The lack of second-guessing and game-playing is key. When you are unclenched around someone and don’t hesitate to ask questions because it doesn’t matter if it’s dumb. (Sometimes it’s even better if it is because you can laugh at yourself with that person, and know he’s not laughing AT you, but along with you - nothing snide or sneery or superior.) Maybe the difference is that the kindness is in fact, genuine - and aimed in your direction, instead of being used as a mirror to make him feel better about himself.

ColdLeatherSofa · 05/10/2020 17:09

Thanks. Yes, I know.

I've never had that in a relationship really.

I'm just to weary to try again. I keep thinking of all the stuff I can do in the house now I have my weekends back!

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justilou1 · 06/10/2020 10:59

Well, don’t rush into anything, obviously... or get caught up in the excitement of anything new. Just potter along doing things that make you happy. This is honestly what works. Find your things.

something2say · 06/10/2020 13:32

Hello xxx how are you op?

I'm sorry you went thro this. Hugs xxx so shit isnt it xx

But you said you're feeling better?? What have you been up to?

Re the music thing, I hadve to say, I too dated a rock musician for 5 years and was mortified at being at best an intermediate guitar player, utterly refusing to let him hear me play or sing. I'd watch him on YouTube of massive gigs with fabulous female singers up front and just think, how could I ever ever play when he was there?

It culminated in my leaving a gig to cry in my car, and then waste a day feeling shit and stalking his mates on social media, at all their 'we love ourselves' posts...BUT then also their positive posts. I shook myself off and thought, they were once at my level. And they practiced practiced practiced. In fact my boyfriend used to say that the successful ones who were still in the game are just the ones who didn't give up.

So from there I started approaching the more approachable friends and asking for their advice and help. One said this, one said that, one told me to always use a metronome. One stood at a piano in the dressing room and in front of the whole band we tried to work out a way to play these chord inversions on the piano.

I wish I'd not been so down on myself. Dont you be either. If you love your instrument, now is the time to throw yourself into a practice regime which will pay dividends...

And, music is a great way to meet men. We cant right now yes, but you're heart broken anyway, so have the winter off and then take up your love of music again and get back out there. X

HumptyD · 06/10/2020 15:08

Well done OP, hope your ok? Has he tried to contact you at all, keep yourself busy! The weekends doing the house up sound like a good distraction! Xxx

ColdLeatherSofa · 06/10/2020 16:42

justilou1

I have plenty of my own things going on. I always have had - well before everything stopped recently!! I've been mainly single for years. Every couple of years, I meet someone and think it's worth giving it a go.

I'd actually liked him from afar for a few years and we have mutual friends so it really seemed worth giving it a shot. I couldn't believe luck when he asked me out if I'm honest. Which is probably why I've been so reluctant to end it until now.

But I've had such a peaceful couple of days, headwise; I feel so much better!

I really dont think I want to put myself through it again.

something2say

You're right, of course.

Work is a bit manic this week but from the weekend that's what I intend to do. I've only been playing for a couple of years and I'm in a band, so I'm pretty good, but he's been playing for nearly 30 - it's a big difference!! I'll never be in his league.

It's a horrible feeling though, isnt it? I can well understand your reaction at the gig.

HumptyD

We had a bit of a text exchange yesterday. We are both keen to not fall out and to remain on friendly terms at least. After all, unless we deliberately avoid each other, our paths will cross again. And potentially quite soon.

I just feel so much more at ease in myself now. I could quite comfortable spend an evening in his company and not be upset by it. I'm sure I'll feel a pang of regret that it didn't work out - as I'm sure he will too - but we just weren't well suited as a couple.

I'm actually far better off single.

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justilou1 · 07/10/2020 04:32

So pleased you’re feeling better. It was obviously the right thing to do! 🥰

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