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Final straw and I'm ending it today but I'm just so sad about it.

98 replies

ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 09:28

I started a thread about my relationship last weekend. The advice was all good - largely that I should talk to him about it.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/4035084-He-doesnt-love-me-Stay-or-go-WWYD

I didn't have chance to speak to him during the week so I thought I'd wait and see how the weekend played out.

And this is how it has gone.

I arrived at his on Friday evening after an awful week at work. I was exhausted and emotionally drained. He asked how my day had been. I said that it hadn't been great and had cried 3 times at work which is very unlike me. I said I'd spoken to a colleague at the end of the day (as an explanation for arriving at his a bit late) and he said, "oh good. So you've offloaded already. Not that I don't want to hear about it..." but he didn't want to hear about it.

Last night, we went out with friends. We arrived at the pub and he made a quip about my parking along the lines of, "no, it's fine, why take one parking space when you can take up two". I said it was fine and told him to get out and check. I was within the lines but the angle was a bit squiffy. So he 'supposed' it was the perfect parking for someone who drives a convertible.

We got into the pub and he pretty much ignored me. I felt uncomfortable all night and realised it was because the last time we'd seen these friends, he'd made an 'innocent' comment afterwards about me talking too much.

I went outside for a smoke and there were 3 early 20s lads out there who were clearly a bit tipsy. One came over and started chatting to me. He said my boyfriend was a lucky man and earnestly told me I was beautiful several times in that way that drunk lads do 🙄 I told him that, at 45, I was old enough to be his mother and to have a good night. But it made me feel a bit sad to realise that, in the year we've been together, my boyfriend has never told me that or complimented me very much at all really.

I got back inside and there was another mutual friend standing at our table (in a mask of course). Haven't seen him for months. He was telling my boyfriend how lucky he was to be with me, that I'm beautiful, lovely and a keeper etc. I just felt embarrassed and shame at him saying it because I know that isn't how this man sees or feels about me at all.

One of the women asked how work was going and how we were managing with the covid restrictions (which have been why work was so difficult last week). I gave her a brief overview as much as anything because I wanted him to hear just how bad it had been. He said nothing. She was appalled by what she heard (and rightly so) and said at least I had a sympathetic ear and indicated him. I said nothing. But I realised that he just doesn't care.

We got home and chatted for a bit. He described an experience that made him understand why women don't appreciate compliments from random men and we talked about that for a while. He told me that he has often offered compliments to random strangers but wouldn't again. He said that only last week he saw a woman in the supermarket who had "the most amazing hair" he'd ever seen and so he'd told her so. He said he wasn't trying to hit on her but had just thought something nice about her and so wanted to tell her. All I can take from that is that he never thinks anything nice about me given that he doesn't compliments me. I mean, he's told me a few times I look nice before a night out and that my hair looks nice when I've straightened it but that's not a lot in a year when he felt compelled to approach a complete stranger last week.

I was just feeling pretty shit by then so went to sit in another room on my own for a bit. He said he was going up to hed and he'd see me soon and kissed me before he went up. Again, I realised it was the first time he'd kissed me since I arrived the previous day. I sat with my thoughts for a while before going up to bed.

I lay on my back next to him. Normally, I'm quite affectionate but obviously wasn't feeling it. He put his arm around me for a while as usual and then he placed his hand on my stomach for a while and, again, I realised that it was months since he'd done that.

I'm at his now and about to start working. I'm going to talk to him when he wakes and end it.

Sorry for chapter and verse, I just needed to get it out and I need to hear that there isn't an alternative, reasonable, excusable explanation for any of this.

I also think that I want to explain but also think he'll just boil it down to me overreacting, being needy and upset that he said something nice to someone else when it's none of those things.

Thanks.

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SuzieCarmichael · 04/10/2020 12:18

It can be really lonely being with a guy who’s one of those external-perception pleaser types. I’ve known a few men who care far more about being thought to be a good guy by the external audience he’s performing for than by the people he’s meant to be closest to. It manifests itself fairly obviously in the kind of really obvious dissonances between his actions towards people he knows less well and wants to impress, versus the amount of effort he will put in for his partner/wife. Once you spot the dynamic you can quite often also spot a very demoralised, frustrated woman in the background who can’t put her finger on what annoys her so much about this ‘good guy’ who will ‘go out of his way to help anybody’ and is such a ‘pillar of the community’.

In short OP, you’re not getting what you need. Just move on.

Yaottie · 04/10/2020 12:24

It's hard leaving someone. Even someone you come to despise, because being with them has become a habit. You just have to break the fact that he's your habit.

This. A thousand times this. You deserve someone who will drop everything to be with you if you need it, not this bloke.

He's not good enough for you.

Techway · 04/10/2020 13:21

@SuzieCarmichael, spot on, especially if they intermittently behave kindly to you. You end up lonely, drained, confused and questioning yourself.

His last gf may not have started off needy but ended up that way after years of emotional neglect.

LunaTheCat · 04/10/2020 13:28

I am sorry OP it sounds gut reaching.
Be honest and simple -“ I don’t sense any real love or affection..”
💐.

HollowTalk · 04/10/2020 13:31

Just thinking... does this guy drive himself?

ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 13:41

Just thinking... does this guy drive himself?

Yes. And he has a far nicer car than I do.

LunaTheCat

That is the bottom line. Although I'd feel silly even mentioning love. Like there's a presumption that he might have loved me.

He's up now but haven't said anything. I just can't find the words to start it.

I think he can sense something is up. He's been very nice to me and ran me a bath.

Sad thing is, sitting in the bath, I recalled the times we've done that together. He's managed to avoid touching me even then.

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ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 13:41

I am sorry OP it sounds gut reaching.

It is Sad

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cherrybakewelllll · 04/10/2020 13:51

OP, let's face it. You're not going to end it today. Playing along, taking the bath etc is just stupid.

Rgy3250999 · 04/10/2020 13:53

I agree with poster above, you’re not going to end it. By wanting to list the reasons you’re leaving, you’re doing the pick me dance and hoping he will beg you not to leave and promise to change. It doesn’t sound like you want to leave but this is neediness. It isn’t showing him that he should value you.

gamerchick · 04/10/2020 13:55

It's love init..

justilou1 · 04/10/2020 14:10

I’ve just read the whole thing, but not your previous post. It feels like he wants a girlfriend, and he likes the reflection of you (what everyone says about you, etc) but isn’t in love with who you are. This doesn’t make you needy, this makes you smart to recognize this and want more for yourself. No wonder you feel like there is something lacking here. He is capable of putting in bursts of emotional energy for shorter periods of time (friends, strangers, family) then retreat back to his “real” self with you. He’s actually quite detached and self-absorbed. Probably somewhat narcissistic. I also can’t blame you for making yourself vulnerable to him by playing the instrument he is more proficient in, and being subject to humiliation. You know that is the purpose of this game, or it wouldn’t be an issue for you. I think you need to tell him that his behaviour is cold and nasty and you know you deserve better.

somewheresorted · 04/10/2020 14:15

How many more threads are you going to start about this..?

Inthemuckheap · 04/10/2020 14:40

Having read your other thread you sound like hard work. Jeez. Not sure what you are looking for exists tbh but good luck in finding it.

newnameforthis123 · 04/10/2020 14:52

You're worried if you dump him for the reasons you are (which are totally fair) then he'll judge you for being needy... that's totally backwards. Yes you'd be needy to stay and seethe and seek affection where it's not there - it's not needy to recognise you aren't getting what works for you and to therefore end the relationship. That's the opposite of needy, it's being self reliant and taking control. I have a horrible feeling you're going to keep putting this off. He's not nearly as into you were into him - that power / emotional investment imbalance never works.

Isolatedizzy · 04/10/2020 15:02

I hope things are going ok there and you get what you need from the conversation which ever way it goes! Thanks

ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 17:15

Ok. I didn't bring it up when I was there. I couldn't find the right words. I'd normally stay until the evening but left around 2.30pm. He didnt wake until 1pm so I was only with him for a short while.

I phoned when i got home but he'd gone out so I'm calling back this evening.

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Carrotgirl87 · 04/10/2020 17:45

Good luck xx

Nousernameforme · 04/10/2020 18:17

Honestly in the nicest possible way I think he wants out but is too "nice" to do it himself. That might be why his mate was talking you up in front of him. He had been told by partner or the mate had noticed something.

Just text him saying this isn't working out take care see you around.
You didn't leave anything of yours at his did you?

cherrybakewelllll · 04/10/2020 19:19
Hmm
ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 19:59

Nousernameforme
No it was nothing like that. They haven't spoken for months and he's always very effusive.

Anyway, I've spoken to him now and ended it. He said he knew it was coming because I took slippers home with me and the phone call wasnt a surprise.

I feel much better but still very sad.

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AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 04/10/2020 20:01

Did he try and fight for you at all? X

ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 20:01

*my slippers. I didn't just take a random pair.

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ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 20:06

AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit

No. I didn't say very much tbh. Just told him that when our friend had been speaking effusively about us it threw into sharp relief that things weren't right.

We've parted on good terms. Our paths will crossed again so we've parted in friendship and the phone call ended on a positive note.

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AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 04/10/2020 20:09

Sounds like you handled it very gracefully. I hope you're okay OP give yourself lots of time to heal x

ColdLeatherSofa · 04/10/2020 20:21

Thanks.

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