Need to know what this means...

[Jellykins09]

Name change.
Can wise people of mumsnet tell me what this means?
Does this mean there has been some form of communication in July?
My hands are shaking and I feel sick, apologies for the short post, I can hardly breathe right now.

@Fabpinky

If there had been messages which he deleted without deleting the whole chat, it would says “message was deleted by you”

I’m unsure why the encryption message is showing from feb but if there were messages in that chat between feb and July you would be able to see that they had been deleted

If you delete individual messages, it says "message was deleted", but if you delete the entire conversation in one go, it just clears the entire conversation and doesn't show "message was deleted".

So he has deleted the entire conversation in one go rather than deleting each individual messages one at a time.

@IndieTara

OP this is not about WhatsApp it's about whether or not you trust him

Up until this morning, I had never checked his phone, i checked it after having a few drinks together, the affair came into a discussion we were having, and I guess it brought up all those awful feelings of when I found out.

He went to sleep, and I think I was still tipsy when I had the overwhelming urge to look.

I agree wirh the previous poster who recommends you go out of the house and out of the situation for the moment to clear your head.

He could be telling the truth, or he could have messaged her. I don't think you can tell by just this archived message.

It am going with the fact that you have more suspicions and that it why you asked to check his phone.

I have been there OP and it's an awful position to be in.

Take a deep breathe, leave the room, have a bath, go for a walk or do something other than have this discussion for now. You can come back to it when you aren't feeling so shaken by it.

Who brought up the affair OP? Is he "comfortable" and open about it when you discuss it?
Do you believe him?

Oh gawd - whether or not he’s been talking to her again! Early you have trust issues - why were you in his phone??

You can’t move forward from this affair if you can’t trust him - you’ll drive yourself mad and this will keep happening again and again - you wondering if he’s cheating - needing to check his phone, wondering if he is where he says he is! It’s exhausting!

You either need to trust him and move forward with relationship - or just end it if you can’t.

@Jellykins09

OK... theres another twist.

Hes just shown me an archived message, of a mutual friend.

Same date in February, encrypted message.
Then blocked, same date in July.

He saying it was July he deleted and downloaded whats app again.

Hes is absolutely adamant no contact and is doing everything he can to proove it....

I'm so confused right now...

That only proves that he blocked the mutual friend on the same date that he block the AP.

If he says that he didn't block the mutual friend and that there must be a glitch.. he's bullshitting you. WhatsApp does not block anyone unless you tell it to. The only way that mutual friend could have been blocked would be for DP to do it.

Why would he block the mutual friend? I'd speak to them about that.

I would also ask DP to show all his archived chats to see if the same "glitch" has occurred with any other contact.

@PeachesTheFlamingo

“If you delete individual messages, it says "message was deleted", but if you delete the entire conversation in one go, it just clears the entire conversation and doesn't show "message was deleted".

So he has deleted the entire conversation in one go rather than deleting each individual messages one at a time.”

This is not correct. I can delete individual messages on my Whatsapp (both my own and those sent to me by contacts) and there is no trace of the messages once deleted.

@PeachesTheFlamingo how strange, I have a hauwei phone and a few group chats archived in there which happily bubble on without me. Maybe it is by phone basis I know that they get a couple of messages a day and I never receive notifications or move into main chat

[quote Notanothercherrybakewell]@PeachesTheFlamingo how strange, I have a hauwei phone and a few group chats archived in there which happily bubble on without me. Maybe it is by phone basis I know that they get a couple of messages a day and I never receive notifications or move into main chat[/quote]
That's odd. I wish mine would do that as my archived chats also keep jumping back into active. I have a Huawei as well.

[quote Notanothercherrybakewell]@PeachesTheFlamingo how strange, I have a hauwei phone and a few group chats archived in there which happily bubble on without me. Maybe it is by phone basis I know that they get a couple of messages a day and I never receive notifications or move into main chat[/quote]
I have a Samsung.
I'm in a work group chat which I never really contribute to. I archive it but if someone posts in the group, WhatsApp moves it to my active chat list. I've muted the chat so I never get any notifications when there is a new message, but WhatsApp always automatically moves it from archive to active chats. So annoying. I find I am having to archive the chat over and over again several times a week.

Have this same archiving issue too @PeachesTheFlamingo @isthismylifenowin