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Have I compromised too much - opinions please

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Willowygirl · 19/09/2020 05:02

So to the scene, sorry this is long, we are not married but have a baby together. We live in an area he grew up a long way from where I grew up. Now to the several separate issues.
We have an adorable easy going baby but I am never away from them. I can count on one hand how many hours I have been without them since they were born. He goes out to work, to see his friends, do his hobby etc. My going out is taking the baby to a baby class. I suggested we maybe ask his family to look after the baby so we could go out for a couple of hours since that is one of the reasons he suggested we need to live so close to them. Anyway we aren’t going out as they are unable to but if we lived near my hometown we would have several babysitters and it would not be an issue. Moving onto my next issue....

I hate the fact that I no longer have a reason to look nice, I have all these lovely clothes that now never get worn, I’m no longer going to work or going out friends as they all live in my home town. I was thinking of doing an exercise class locally with the baby but am wondering what the point is, if I have no reason to look nice. It has been a year since I put a nice dress and heels on and went out completely care free. I don’t hate my figure but just miss dressing up whether that be for work, dinner, drinks. I don’t really suit casual clothes and I don’t like myself in them. A jumper and jeans are fine but the idea of only wearing those for the near future is just depressing. I know things are different now but the idea of just going out and being myself for a few hours now seems like something impossible. Next issue....

We have a baby together but he has said that we are not even close to becoming engaged. A baby is a bigger commitment apparently and yes it is but we had talked about it pre baby and he said he would get married again. We had another chat about engagement rings and any of them I liked he hated. Likes a simple standard ring, not my taste at all. There is nothing wrong with simple diamond and I’m not considering anything outrageous but I like ones that are slightly different, a twist in the band or the stone at an angle. His said he took his ex to several jewellers and she could choose whichever one she wanted. If we even get engaged then he will only get me a ring he likes and since I’m wearing it all the time it would be nice to have one I like. He has also said he would want a very small wedding. That is fine as I see it being about the marriage but again it would all be in his terms with what he likes and wants. I would like to get married before we have any more children and feel that will be on hold and I don’t have much time left, I want a large family but he doesn’t and feel this will be his way around it as I want marriage before anymore. Now for the next problem....,,

I live in his house that he owns, before I moved in his family wanted me to sign something to say that even though I’m paying towards the mortgage I’m not entitled to anything if we were to split. I didn’t sign anything but am not named on the mortgage despite still paying towards it and being on maternity leave. I also asked to have a small space in the spare room that would be for my hobby and got told no, so to sum up I live in this house he bought with his ex wife and I have no space to call my own. I spend so much time in the house that I didn’t choose in an area I didn’t choose with no plans to move and I didn’t think asking for this was unreasonable.

He has lots of lovely qualities, very loving towards me, listens when I have a problem or am upset with him and changes what he says or does if it has upset me. He adjusts his work to fit around us and has let me decorate the house, add things and we do go out a lot as a family but I just can’t help but feel I’m giving so much more, making more compromises, adjusting to fit into his lifestyle and his family and for what? No commitment to me, just the baby. I’m giving up ever moving back home to be near my friends and family and a career to raise children. Am I being unreasonable and are my expectations to high? When I try and talk to him about it he says I already lived in this part of the country which is true I did but it’s different when I had a career and could go out, see friends, travel back home and abroad whenever. I really love him and love how he as a person does do things to make happy, buys little things for me, cooks whatever I suggest, generous with his time and his affection, is honest and trustworthy, always keeps his word so I guess what I’m asking is should I overlook these things and focus on his actions which show how much he loves me as I know he really does.

OP posts:
Racinglikeapronow · 20/09/2020 09:12

@Willowygirl you say “ He has lots of lovely qualities, very loving towards me, listens when I have a problem or am upset with him and changes what he says or does if it has upset me.”

But it’s clearly not true? He hasn’t changed anything about what ring you want, marriage, house, hobby, time out with him, time away from baby. Surely your standards aren’t so low you think a good partner is someone who will make pasta if you suggest it Confused unfortunately you are unmarried with a baby and he can do exactly what he wants as you don’t matter. Either stay as you are living your life dictated by his and his families extensive terms and conditions right down to wearing your horrible engagement ring you don’t like but he wanted whenever he eventually decides you might be worth proposing to and marries you or leave and go back to your family friends lean on them get your career back and date/marry someone who actually values you and your thoughts and opinions.

markzuckerbergsgreytshirt · 20/09/2020 09:18

so I guess what I’m asking is should I overlook these things and focus on his actions which show how much he loves me as I know he really does.

I think you're deluding yourself OP, sorry. You already know that his actions aren't that of someone who really loves you. He's not even on the same page as you (as much as I hate that expression), it has to be said.

Because he's nice sometimes you're glossing over the stark reality which is that you're in a precarious situation.

Stop paying rent/bills.
Get back to your home town for a while.

You'll never get the ring or home you want with him. He sounds very selfish.

THisbackwithavengeance · 20/09/2020 09:25

I disagree that the OP should be named on the mortgage.

I see this on threads too often that a woman in a newish relationship wants a claim on an asset such as a house that the DP already owns and has invested in.

Such double standards. If the sexes were reversed here and it was the OP who owned the house, everyone e would be telling her to protect her capital and make sure he's not on the mortgage.

wewereliars · 20/09/2020 09:53

You need your own income if he won't marry you. You have zero financial security at the moment. If you are not on the house deeds you will have no entitlement to it no matter how many mortgage payments you make. You are facing a future of poverty if you are not careful.

wewereliars · 20/09/2020 09:56

Thisbackwithavegeance she has just had his baby and he wont marry her so who is being taken advantage of here?

Notcoolmum · 20/09/2020 10:12

@THisbackwithavengeance the main difference being that the majority of women are the ones left holding the baby and limiting their earning power and career prospects.

In what ways is he generous OP? He won't let you choose a ring (being engaged is no more legal protection) or have a room in your home. He won't ask his parents to babysit so you can go out together. He didn't consider a compromise on where to live when you had a baby.

What happened to his ex's share of assets? Has he now bought her out and paid her part of his pension? Do they have children together?

I would go home with your baby whilst on mat leave. Let your family bond with your baby and take some time away from him and his family to think clearly.

THisbackwithavengeance · 20/09/2020 10:26

I agree that it doesn't sound like he's massively committed here and if the OP isn't happy, she can choose to end the relationship.

And she shouldn't be paying towards the mortgage.

But the OP knew the situation when she got pregnant. I know I sound harsh but if you want marriage, 50% ownership etc etc then having a baby does not enforce those things.

I own my own home outright and hell would freeze over before I handed 50% of it to a new partner.

TorkTorkBam · 20/09/2020 10:27

It's a moot point anyway. There is no chance in hell he will give her part ownership of anything except his laundry.

Notcoolmum · 20/09/2020 10:30

@THisbackwithavengeance and i would never get married again to protect my pension. But I wouldn't be starting a family with someone. And I would (have been) very clear about my position on marriage with new partners.

A baby isn't a commitment. It's a commitment to the baby (sometimes) but not to you OP.

differentnameforthis · 20/09/2020 11:22

@THisbackwithavengeance

I disagree that the OP should be named on the mortgage.

I see this on threads too often that a woman in a newish relationship wants a claim on an asset such as a house that the DP already owns and has invested in.

Such double standards. If the sexes were reversed here and it was the OP who owned the house, everyone e would be telling her to protect her capital and make sure he's not on the mortgage.

Op says quite clearly that she is contributing towards the mortgage, is that not her investing in it too?
BlueThistles · 20/09/2020 11:53

Op says quite clearly that she is contributing towards the mortgage, is that not her investing in it too?

absolutely 🌺

IJustWantSomeBees · 22/09/2020 15:09

At the end of the day people who want to commit do. If you have a child together and he still isn't ready to commit and marry you I don't think he ever will and I think you deserve better than that

I'm glad to hear that you're going to insist on joint ownership of the home, I'll echo a pp and say that the best way to improve your relationship is to increase your self-worth, self investment and your boundaries

workhomesleeprepeat · 22/09/2020 15:41

OP your first post was so full of the typical red flags you see on here that I honestly thought you were a troll!

Doesn’t he care if YOU like your engagement ring? Why does he have to like it? Tbh if he thinks you are very far away from getting married and you already have a baby...I don’t think he’ll ever be up for it with you. That’s such an odd thing to say to the mother of your child!

Also what is your hobby? Why can’t you have a little space for it?

OP I know you say he is generous and a good Dad, but I would ask you to re-read your first post as if it was by a stranger. It makes for quite sad reading especially as you’ve said all you want is marriage and a big family. You really have compromised a lot. Like A LOT.

IndieTara · 22/09/2020 15:59

Whilst I agree there are huge red flags everywhere OP it was still your choice to move into that house in that location, you can't abdicate responsibility for that.
However even if you want a large family. You def shouldn't have one with him.

thelegohooverer · 23/09/2020 04:32

@THisbackwithavengeance

I disagree that the OP should be named on the mortgage.

I see this on threads too often that a woman in a newish relationship wants a claim on an asset such as a house that the DP already owns and has invested in.

Such double standards. If the sexes were reversed here and it was the OP who owned the house, everyone e would be telling her to protect her capital and make sure he's not on the mortgage.

It’s not double standards because, in reverse, the situation isn’t comparable. The financial impact of having a child falls disproportionately on women. His career is growing continuously; hers is being undermined, and while she provides free childcare for his child, lives on a % of her salary, and pays towards an asset that only he will benefit from.

In the “reverse” situation, posters are often advising a woman to protect her (and her dc’s) financial assets from a non-contributing man who isn’t risking his health having dc, providing free childcare or supporting her career at the expense of his own. At least they’re the threads I see.

differentnameforthis · 23/09/2020 05:36

@IndieTara

Whilst I agree there are huge red flags everywhere OP it was still your choice to move into that house in that location, you can't abdicate responsibility for that. However even if you want a large family. You def shouldn't have one with him.
She probably didn't realise at the time how toxic this is... or it has crept up on her. No need to make it all her fault..
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