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Heart or Head, the classic conundrum

83 replies

Lillie1313 · 10/09/2020 08:35

Hi Gorgeous People,

I’d really appreciate advice from you all.

I’m currently taking a big step in my life, buying a house and moving away from my home town. The man I’ve been seeing the past two years is coming with (although I’m the owner of the house)
We have a gorgeous relationship and he’s kinder, lovelier than my past ex’s and we get along so well on so many levels. I could see myself marrying him and having kids, I’ve always wanted kids since I was one myself (always playing the mummy in the game’s at nursery, you know the score ;)) I know he wants marriage and kids too so I can see this all panning out very happily EXCEPT (and this is the head coming in over the heart now) he has 0 work ethic and hates all his jobs. He’s landed a job currently as a carer but hates it and goes on about how much he hates it but also is negative about every single other option that would suit his skill set. He’s been a chef, hated it. He’s been a hotel manager, hated it. He’s been a hollisitic therapist (this is what his degree is in) and hated it (!) and now he’s decided that he’d like to be a career gambler. This means that practically if I wanted to marry him I’d have to have a prenup so that I wouldn’t take on his debts (he already has credit card debt) and in the long run it would probably be me supporting the family fully as I don’t see him ever making a true income from gambling, as he thinks he will.

I’m keeping myself financially independent of it but it’s really hard emotionally because he bring all the stress and tension of loosing - as well as the highs of winning - to the house and I find it really hard not to soak up other people’s emotions and energy. Only last night he was really down and saying how hard it is but he feels he has no other option and it totally burst the great bubble I’d been in that day. I can’t have another conversation with him to suggest ideas for his future that doesn’t involve gambling “what about running a food truck?” “What about being an online dietary consultant” all met with No. I think the core issue is that he is from a long line of wealthy lawyers and had a trust fund basically until he was 35 and now he’s cut off from easy money and can’t handle having a low income job that is hard graft. I, on the other hand, had my first job at 14 and have worked really hard all my life to get to where I am and don’t mind a bit of graft considering I’m the first person in my family to ever go to uni, my dad couldn’t even read and write until the age of 12... so we’re very different in this respect.

Ok unloading done. What do you guys think !?
I’d go so far as to say he’s a soul mate in that we connect on so many things and he looks after me so well and makes me feel so loved and safe (I know he’d never cheat like my ex’s have) and we have so much fun and adventure together. But this work thing is a really big splinter in the foot of our relationship.

Do you think it could work ? Do you think in the age of modern women that I should accept that a man won’t be supporting the family financially and that I can do this myself as a strong fierce female !? Or do you think it spells trouble and that I shouldn’t consider bringing children into a relationship that is already financially unsteady !?

Thank you all for your advice xxxx

OP posts:
JudyGemstone · 11/09/2020 12:27

He sounds like a lazy feckless entitled pain the the arse.

This is why trust funds are a bad idea and do people no favours

Ardnassa · 11/09/2020 12:39

Well done OP for acknowledging your doubts at a critical, make-or-break time and seeking support and advice.

There are some great tips on this thread. If I were you, my next step would be to rapidly enlist help and support from your friends. And then, knowing you have that network and safety net, to have the conversation with him. No ifs, no buts.

Don't let him make you feel like he has a say in whether you break up with him or not - a relationship needs both partners to want it.

There are good men out there, who won't cheat and are fun but who also believe in pulling their weight financially. You will get over this man.

Thinking of you. Am sure I speak for PP on this thread when I say that we are also here if you need some non-RL support too.

Sssloou · 11/09/2020 19:23

How are you doing Lillie1313?

Iamuhtredsonofuhtred · 11/09/2020 23:37

It’s really easy to advise someone to walk away but it’s really hard to do when you’re in love. All those terrible things that may (will) come to pass haven’t happened yet. He’s probably charming, handsome, funny. If he wasn’t you wouldn’t be in love with him. It’s easier to ignore those red flags and believe you loving him is enough to make it work. Keep this thread in the back of your mind always.

For what it’s worth I married someone very similar to your boyfriend, he has a trust fund too, very wealthy family. Zero work ethic and addictions galore. I started my own thread on here a few years ago when I found out he’d cheated on me, he was in rehab when I discovered found out. The responses I got knocked me sideways too. People here are straight talking, no BS. They aren’t charmed or seduced by him. I wasn’t ready to act on the advice I got, it took me nearly 3 years to finally want more for myself then cleaning up his messes and living in his chaos. But the thread I started stayed with me and eventually helped give me the courage to leave. I hope it doesn’t take you 16 years and 4 kids to want more for yourself. A dysfunctional person will not make a good partner. How much time you waste finding this out is up to you.

mummyof2lou · 11/09/2020 23:42

Sorry I think it spells trouble. Do you want your children having that sort of role model? I think you deserve better, and it shows your values don't align

netsybetsy · 12/09/2020 06:07

*Run like the wind!

You have yourself a future cocklodger.*

This. Your future children deserve better.

netsybetsy · 12/09/2020 06:13

Only last night he was really down and saying how hard it is but he feels he has no other option and it totally burst the great bubble I’d been in that day.

Can you imagine the hard work of parenting on top of this? Do you really think he'll do his fair share of that either?

I can’t have another conversation with him to suggest ideas for his future that doesn’t involve gambling “what about running a food truck?” “What about being an online dietary consultant” all met with No.

He sounds like a spoilt teen and you have taken on a mothering role with him. This will corrode your romantic relationship.

You sound lovely OP - I'd go with my head on this oneSmile

KatherineJaneway · 12/09/2020 06:16

he has 0 work ethic and hates all his jobs.

If you stay with him, in 10 years time he'll still be discussing his next 'get rich quick' scheme while asking you to lend him some money as you walk out the door to another long, hard day at work keeping the family finances afloat. Not a pretty picture is it.

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