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DH wants to stay together but no intimacy

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fedupofcleaning · 23/08/2020 15:15

I've (hopefully) name-changed for this but been around MN for several years.

I’m so confused and dejected, can anyone tell me if they’ve been in a similar situation and managed to turn this around? I’m afraid it’s long but please be kind, I’ve spent most of today in floods of tears over this.

Married to DH for around 16 years, together over 18. Two teen kids still at home. Sex life was always ‘lacking’ but he was very inexperienced and (initially) keen to learn so I thought it would work itself out. Sadly not, and for the past 10 years we’ve been technically sexless, managing only a handful of times per year and with varying degrees of success (often we’d get started, he’d lose his erection and we’d give up, he’d have a massive strop about it all). There have been times when I’ve asked him if he had fallen out of love with me, was seeing someone else, was perhaps gay, and so on. He’s never admitted to any of these.

Over the last 5 years things have degenerated and now he has total ED. He just cannot get even a partial erection and says he doesn’t get them at all, not even early morning erections. He agreed to see the GP once, she tested his testosterone levels and said they were normal, he’s refused to follow up any further (GP wanted to refer him to Urology but he flat out refused to go). We got some Viagra (through Boots) and he tried it once – it didn’t have any effect and he didn’t want to try again.

He is perfectly happy with the status quo. Has said if I never mentioned sex again it would be a ‘massive relief’ for him. Very rarely wants to kiss and cuddle and now I avoid them because I don’t know if it’s supposed to lead on to anything or not. He wants us to stay together, has no desire to find anyone else. I’ve explained this is a massive deal for me, I’m not yet 50 and hadn’t planned on being celibate for the rest of my life, that I’m upset he’s made a unilateral decision for the both of us and expects me to stay faithful but not ever have any kind of physical relationship again; he just becomes upset and says I’m being unfair as ‘he can’t help it’.

The other night he completely out of the blue decided to make a grab for me in bed. Wanted to do things ‘at’ me – I don’t mean he was forcing himself on me, but he just wanted to go through the motions of the stuff he knows I like but didn’t want me to touch him. He just wanted me to lie there and him ‘check the boxes’ on the list of things he knows I like, if that makes sense. There was no closeness. I felt awful afterwards, almost violated although I know that wasn’t his intention. When I asked him the next morning what was going on he just said ‘I thought it was what I was supposed to do’. I asked him whether he started this because he felt aroused, or whether he became aroused at any point during the proceedings (even mentally aroused if he can’t physically get an erection) and he just said no, he just thought it was a nice thing to do for me.

I’m utterly devastated and have a massive lump in my chest. Am I truly married to a man who doesn’t even find me remotely attractive any more? What am I supposed to do, just shut that whole part of me down? I’ve told him it’s not just the physical sex, but it’s like living with a (grumpy) flatmate.

Is there any hope here, or are my choices truly to either leave him, or shut up and put up?

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Keepingthingsinteresting · 23/08/2020 15:23

I’m so sorry OP, that sounds really tough. If he genes in Ely doesn’t want to have a sexual relationship then I guess you’d always feel that way when he made an “effort”. If this isn’t what you want for your life then guess there is only one option - hope you’re ok

Torres10 · 23/08/2020 17:57

Could have written this myself, however my DH just insists this is the way all LTR get..which I don't believe.
I am just waiting for the kids to get back to school to have the next conversation and say, I'm done and can't do this for the rest of my life..
I now don't want him anywhere near me either because it feels false, so there is only one option for me unfortunately:(

theworldhasfallenoutmybottom · 23/08/2020 18:19

Following as I'm in the exact same situation

Marrowfatpeas · 23/08/2020 18:23

Just commenting to say you are not alone. I could also have written your post. I long for a bit of passion (nearly 10yr marriage), but he doesn’t see the issue. Haven’t been happy for a while, but don’t know what to do / whether even to begin unpicking our (otherwise fairly comfortable) life :-/

Backtobasics5 · 23/08/2020 18:25

It sounds awful OP. Next time don’t participate in something you don’t really feel comfortable with tell him during it’s not what you want. To be honest and to get straight to the point as it’s a long standing issue. I would tell my husband divorce is on the cards at this stage if that did not change his lack of motivation well then you have your answer.

Chicchicchicchiclana · 23/08/2020 18:31

It's a really sad situation. Your dh could have married someone who felt the same way about sex as him, but unfortunately for you both he didn't. So his wanting to stay together despite the lack of intimacy isn't right for you. Thousands if not millions of couples have split for the same reason ... there is no shame in it for you if you want to put and end to your relationship and move on. You have to put yourself first in issues as important as this, it will be hard, but don't feel bad Flowers.

category12 · 23/08/2020 18:32

Maybe it's ultimatum time, that he follows up with the urology referral or you split up? If it is a dealbreaker for you.

HerrenaHarridan · 23/08/2020 18:39

You only live once.

Make the most of it. With or without him.

There are no points or prizes for being a miserable martyr... just misery and resentment

username501 · 23/08/2020 18:45

OP the predicator of the future is what's happened in the past. You've had a decade of bad sex and now celibacy apart from fumbling that makes you feel violated.

Do you want another decade of this because that's the direction things are going?

Sweetsangria · 23/08/2020 18:50

Following because this is me also.
Not had sex for ages, don’t really want to anymore, can’t decide if it’s selfish to destroy my family over it but I don’t want to never have sex again and I don’t want sex with dh.

PicsInRed · 23/08/2020 18:52

He sounds completely uninterested in sex and he likely never has been.

Have you considered that he's asexual?

Regularsizedrudy · 23/08/2020 18:52

It’s not about your attractiveness or even his attraction to you, it all sounds a bit more complex.

It’s true when he says he can help it but he IS choosing to do nothing about it. He should be open with you, he should be going to his GP and exploring why this is happening. It’s certainly not normal. He is putting all the strain of this on you by refusing to engage with it and that is not only unfair but cruel.

You deserve better than this.

Ryah76 · 23/08/2020 18:56

Have you considered having an open marriage? I know it’s not for everyone but if the only thing you miss is sexual contact and your husband has no desire, how would he feel if you found that outside of the marriage. No affair , a consensual agreement?

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 23/08/2020 18:57

You need to work out what is and isn’t acceptable for you going forward and then work from there. If this is it, and it’s not how you want to live, then you are done...

fedupofcleaning · 23/08/2020 20:39

Thank you for all your replies, lots to think about here.

I have to figure out whether this is a deal-breaker for me, as a couple of you have said. I think it may be. I actually feel like I'm grieving, like someone has died. I tear up and get physical pains in my chest every time I think about this being 'it' for another 30 years.

But it's so hard when there are kids involved. I don't know if I can face breaking up their lives just so I can get some love/a shag. He's a very angry man, it won't be a calm breakup and as I out-earn him several times over he'll expect me to support him, buy him out of the house etc. I could do it but it would be a stretch.

Ryan he has actually suggested that I 'go get laid' if I need to. I'm not sure that's what I want, though - I want a loving and close relationship with someone who wants to be with me. And actually I want my husband to not want me sleeping around! Nothing wrong with an open relationship if that's what both of you want, but that isn't the case here. It feels as though he just wants to outsource a job he can't be bothered to do.

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Ragwort · 23/08/2020 20:46

It's just so sad that there are so many marriages with partners that are mismatched sexually - hate to admit this but I would love a marriage like that Blush, but my DH is still, after 30 years of marriage, very keen on our sex life .....

morriseysquif · 23/08/2020 20:51

You are not alone, no sex here in forever. There is nothing wrong with wanting sex and intimacy, it's human, it's normal.

daisychain01 · 23/08/2020 20:56

he has actually suggested that I 'go get laid' if I need to. I'm not sure that's what I want, though - I want a loving and close relationship with someone who wants to be with me. And actually I want my husband to not want me sleeping around! Nothing wrong with an open relationship if that's what both of you want, but that isn't the case here.

@fedupofcleaning he sounds a very unpleasant person. You should never be forced to violate your own values - there are far fewer people, men and women, who want an open relationship if there is a choice, for me it would feel empty and a significant compromise on the closeness of a 1:1 exclusive relationship.

It sounds like your marriage has run its course, there is so much more to life than feeling neglected and unloved. I'd cut and run, even if it means being on your own for a while, to have some headspace to work out what next in your life.

Okki · 23/08/2020 21:15

Can I ask if he's unusual in any other respects? Within my very close family there was a similar situation. We (and he) believed he was undiagnosed ASD and anecdotal evidence shows that persons on the spectrum quite often have lower to non existant sex drives.

SandyY2K · 23/08/2020 21:27

He's asexual from the sound of things.

Aside from this, it also doesn't sound like a loving relationship in other ways....if it was you might be able to manage it till the kids are older.

Janejones12 · 23/08/2020 21:32

It isnt about 'getting a shag' though
You need a loving intimacy to live a fulfilling life if you are in a relationship. This sounds soul destroying for you and you deserve to be fully happy

M0mmzee · 23/08/2020 21:37

He could be autistic or asexual. I would have a look at the autistic option if I were you. The words, “ When I asked him the next morning what was going on he just said ‘I thought it was what I was supposed to do’. I asked him whether he started this because he felt aroused, or whether he became aroused at any point during the proceedings (even mentally aroused if he can’t physically get an erection) and he just said no, he just thought it was a nice thing to do for me,” rang alarm bells for me.

Widowodiw · 23/08/2020 21:40

Um I’m going to go against the grain here and say he hasn’t really chosen now has he his body has chosen. It’s the fact that he doesn’t want to do anything about it is the issue. But if he can’t get aroused perhaps that’s why he’s not bothered about it if that makes sense. Perhaps you need a gentle talk, visit to the doctor together, marriage counselling?

fedupofcleaning · 23/08/2020 21:48

Okki he's never been diagnosed but had told me more than once he suspects he is on 'some spectrum or other' (his words!)....he is a loner, struggles to make friends, can't tolerate changes to routine, physically can't do spontaneity and the like. Maybe I should look into this more.... although it wouldn't change anything.

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Gingaaarghpussy · 23/08/2020 21:48

Have a look at some lbtq stuff, he may be asexual.