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I think this it the end.

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YourHandInMyHand · 18/08/2020 10:27

Been with DP 5 years, lived together 3 of them. When we met I was a single mum and he was a bachelor. We now have a 1yr old together as well as my eldest.

Last Friday DP went out "to watch the football with his dad" and didn't come home. He often goes out and comes back at ridiculous times eg 2/3am but has never just not come home. I think he is a problem drinker, he says he's just sociable and I don't get it as I'm not. (I am sociable just on a different level, and my socialising doesn't involve getting totally pissed).

When he came back he said sorry I fell asleep at my mates, whatever I do is wrong, I'm only going out once a week (untrue), it's not like I'm out every night, etc blah blah blah. Basically turned it around on me as though I'm an evil witch that never lets him have fun. He summed up at the end with "I don't want to keep getting things wrong, if you don't think I can maybe we need to have a think about what we both want."

Saturday night he nodded off after getting toddler DS2 to sleep. Sunday night we talked. He said he feels like he doesn't know who he is anymore and he's lost his confidence as we've lost our intimacy.

2020 I think we've had sex twice and even things like hugs have eroded over lockdown. He's an extrovert and I'm an introvert. He's struggled in lockdown not seeing anyone or socialising and I've struggled having a house full of people needing me 24/7. Needy toddler. Eldest has special needs and has had no special school, no time out with a carer no time even at his dad's house since Mid March. I'm completely overhwelmed and overstretched, basically I've shut/broke down. Im now on day 10 of sertraline after approaching my GP about my low mood and anxiety both being at worrying levels.

Monday day I was googling introvert/extrovert relationships, how to regain intimacy in a relationship, etc. Trying to think how we can understand each other better and try and get a plan together of how to get back on track.

Monday night we talked again. I asked him if he had any ideas or thoughts on what we should do, and he said he thinks maybe he needs some time away from home to try and get his old self back. I asked what he missed and what he wanted more/less of and basically he's sad he doesn't watch football as much, rarely watches films, and doesn't go out as much as he'd like. And the sex.

So his solution that he's leaning to is more, go to his mates and have a nice old time I'm presuming.

He also said what if I get the old me back but you still have no sex drive, then I still won't feel happy.

It's all me, me me.

I've always known we were very different, he's right on that one, but I thought we could make it work. I'd hoped we could regain our intimacy and having looked into it it's a sensible plan of how to do so.

But now I'm questioning if I want to. I feel like ont he Saturday morning he wanted me to give him an out. Which he says he doesn't. But he wants to solve HIS unhappiness and then think if he wants to save us I think. Whereas my initial thoughts were how do we get back to both being happy together, his outlook seems somewhat different.

There's things I've been unhappy with too but I feel he just wants to do what he wants and have me be a "cool" girlfriend who let's him go out anytime, etc and not question anything or demand anything.

I'm heartbroken that I may have to split time with my toddler. I never wanted that. I never thought I'd have a second child and only did so as I thought we were solid enough to work through anything that came our way.

I know I can cope as a single mum but it's not what I wanted for DS2. Also we private rent, he's the main tenant, and it's a bigger more expensive house than I had previously.

I feel completely overhwelmed and heartbroken.

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YourHandInMyHand · 18/08/2020 12:07

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ravenmum · 18/08/2020 12:38

I fell asleep at my mates, whatever I do is wrong
he feels like he doesn't know who he is anymore and he's lost his confidence as we've lost our intimacy
he thinks maybe he needs some time away from home to try and get his old self back
Sounds like a man having an affair.
Staying out late and overnight, crap excuse. Blaming you (she made me have an affair). Doesn't know who he is any more = didn't think he would ever have an affair. Needs time away from you = wants to try it out with someone else and see how it goes with her.

Having less sex, blaming you for that, not interested in your ideas for how to re-ignote the spark. All pretty typical, I'm afraid. Would an affair surprise you?

ravenmum · 18/08/2020 12:46

Good that you have been to the GP, and you sound like you are well organised and a sensible planner. Do have a good think about whether this could actually be in your best interests. He sounds like he's actually having a negative effect on you anyway.

MellowBird85 · 18/08/2020 12:52

basically he's sad he doesn't watch football as much, rarely watches films, and doesn't go out as much as he'd like. And the sex.

What an immature, selfish prick. Complete manchild. I’m so angry on your behalf - he’s got the tit on cos he wants to laze about watching telly all day while his behaviour is damaging your health! Tell him to go and have his space - indefinitely. And take his fucking ironing with him.

YourHandInMyHand · 18/08/2020 13:25

The films and football thing blew me away.
Like something a teenager would moan about not a dad in his mid 30s. He feels he's lost who he used to be and has no identity or confidence apparently.

He does stuff around the house and with the kids eg we take it in turns to do bedtime, he does the bathroom I do the kitchen, etc. But I feel I do more probably and I've always felt like he thinks doing it is for me and isn't he good rather than just thinking it should be done. He used to live on his own capably so I didn't see that coming.

Our finances cause me resentment too. I know I'm worse off financially now than I was living as a single mum. However the unknown of having to claim UC and a higher rent etc really worries me. I don't even know if I would be allowed to stay here as a sole tenant on UC tbh. They put him as the lead tenant on the tenancy due to higher income.

He's working from home for the next 2 weeks then he will be going back to the office. He floated the idea that in 2 weeks time he goes off to a mates for a few weeks! So I've 2 weeks of limbo, then a few weeks of him having a lovely time at his mates. And then his worry of what if he comes home and my libido hasn't magically returned.

Argh!! I'm so angry!

He's just gone off to the gym, gave me a kiss on the cheek as he left, was talking about how he's off out sat and sun eve but can we all do something together sat or Sun day.

Afair - who knows! He's always been massively private with his phone. I don't know any of his pins or passwords and his phone has finger print AND pin set up on it. Nothing would surprise me at the moment as I feel like I don't know what's going on in his head.

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YourHandInMyHand · 18/08/2020 13:28

@MellowBird85 ha that made me laugh. I don't iron but I do cook us all lovely meals. Other than that though it seems I'm a bit of a crap prospect. Hmm

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YourHandInMyHand · 18/08/2020 13:28

I did ask him last night if he has feelings for someone else and he said no. But like I say, who knows!

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VettiyaIruken · 18/08/2020 13:31

Sounds like he wants out but he's too much of a coward to be honest.

ravenmum · 18/08/2020 13:32

If he is going off to an OW, disguised as "finding himself" at his mate's, then he had to come up with some reason for it, didn't he? If football was the only thing he could think of, that just shows that actually he has it fine with you. In the affair scenario, the thing about having lost his confidence because of you is actually the reason he is giving his OW for having an affair despite being such a Lovely Guy. This story is frequently then shared with the confused partner or wife.

FizzyGreenWater · 18/08/2020 13:32

He floated the idea that in 2 weeks time he goes off to a mates for a few weeks!

'Where will DS2 sleep for the 50% of the time when he's with you for those weeks? Does your mate have a proper spare room to put him up?'

:)

ravenmum · 18/08/2020 13:34

In 2 weeks' time huh. Maybe try altering the schedule and see what happens.

YourHandInMyHand · 18/08/2020 13:36

He was thinking he'd come back a few nights a week to help with the boys?! It's like he's lost all rational thought. Don't think so pal. How's he gonna "find himself" if he's back and forth. Plus that's confusing for the kids.

I've said to him I think his comment that morning is him wanting an out. I think he wants ME to tell him to fuck off so he can be the sad, injured party.

I wish I could look at his phone but it won't happen. Its well secured and he's a light sleeper. If he has been with someone else or testing the waters for someone else I'd rather know now.

The idea of not being with ds2 half the week makes me feel sick to my stomach. But I won't stay in a shit relationship either.

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YourHandInMyHand · 18/08/2020 19:11

I keep going over what has been said by him and I just feel so sad. Am I really so awful to live with? I feel like he's almost cast me as cold and controlling? When realistically I think I'm quite laid back and feel like I compromise a LOT.

It also disappoints me how little he seems to have considered why my libido is low and why I've shut down from physical contact during lockdown. I'm at breaking point, constantly amongst people who all need me, want to talk, hug, have my attention. My business got closed at the start of lockdown so I've had that financial stress too. I still feel he is physically attractive but I think that everytime he's come home steaming drunk or late or both I've lost a little respect and trust for him each time, and obviously that is going to affect things. He is painting it as I've not been showing him sexual attraction and therefore he's questioned his attractiveness/confidence.

He's been very focused during lockdown on running, getting fit and slimming down a little. He's done this before while I was pregnant he got fixated on the gym and calorie counting while I got more and more pregnant. Hmm

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craggymaggie · 18/08/2020 19:19

I think you need to make some concrete plans to end this relationship and set up on your own with the children. He sounds very immature. You've got a year old baby FFS. Does he understand anything about how pregnancy and childbirth affect libido?

The sertraline will soon start to help you with your anxiety and when you feel able, start planning to leave. Don't let him call the shots. If he wants to live like a teenager, out with his mates, so be it. It will be his loss and not yours.

Do you have a mum, sister, best friend who you can lean on right now?

Sunnydaysandsalad · 18/08/2020 19:22

Do you know his friends? Their fb may reveal details of all his nights out...

ToyKitchenSink · 18/08/2020 19:28

It's unclear from your posts whether you gave your perspective and outlined the pressures you're under too. I'm interested in his response. If he disregards those pressures then there's no hope. If you didn't even raise them in detail then that's your next steps. Spell it out to him.

AllTheWhoresOfMalta · 18/08/2020 19:28

Another one asking if you’ve got a close friend or sister or mum you can talk to about this. Because I can tell you, if my bf, sister or daughter came to me with this joker as a partner I’d be telling her to sack him right off. He sounds like a 15yo boy!

crimsonlake · 18/08/2020 19:33

This sounds horribly familiar, talking about his social life, discussing his next event when he has a family to consider...This was my ex!
It makes me mad on your behalf just reading this, the bare faced cheek ...living the life of a single person yet getting all the comforts of a relationship with you.
One early evening to celebrate a promotion at work I agreed to go out for a drink where he proceeded to regale me with plans he had made for this and that...as if we were not married. A conversation followed which I will not bore you with. However he suggested he might move in to a flat for a few months, get it out of his system so to speak and then return.
He did move out, little did he anticipate he would never be welcomed back. I never communicated with him ever again apart from inside a courtroom. I do not think he saw that one coming...and yes as it turned out there was another woman. Take care op and do not accept any nonsense.

BrowncoatWaffles · 18/08/2020 19:35

I've said to him I think his comment that morning is him wanting an out. I think he wants ME to tell him to fuck off so he can be the sad, injured party.

That's how I'd read it too. If it were me I'd be telling him to cock off - he can be in a relationship and deal with everything that means (being a parent means less time watching films and doing fun stuff - breaking news!) or he can go be single and find out that it's not all X-Box, cinema trips and roses.

You deserve better than this.

Sunnydaysandsalad · 18/08/2020 19:44

End it op.
Cms should cut down his spending on alcohol.

Dollyrocket · 18/08/2020 19:52

This all sounds very fishy like he’s cheating - it’s following a lot of ‘the script’.

Sorry @YourHandInMyHand - He sounds like a silly little manchild who thinks he can do exactly as he pleases.

IncrediblySadToo · 18/08/2020 19:52

I'm sorry you're going through this - it's shit. He's not who you thought he was!

I think it's time to take control here, don't allow him to dictate how this is going to be 'sorted'.

Him going to stay 'with a friend' and 'find himself' would NOT be happening. I'd EITHER make it clear that if he goes, he doesn't come back (if I wanted to try to work it out with him) OR (if I knew it was over) let him go 'for a break' knowing I wouldn't let him come back.

There's no way on God's Little Green Earth he's be off to live the single life, going out, fucking around, Partying hard, while I sat at home waiting for him to decide whether he wanted to come back or not. NO fucking way!

Too many individual things to pull them one by one, but the way he's been treating you I'd find totally. TOTALLY unacceptable.

Whilst you didn't want to be a single mum to DS2 I'm sure what you have isn't what you wanted either! It's not a choice between how you wanted things to be and being a single mum (again), it between how things ARE & being a single Mum.

Plus I'm discounting him turning into the man/Dad you'd thought he'd be because that is NOT going to happen

Single mum & a life of your own OR another 50 years of this bellend - I know what I'd be choosing!

craggymaggie · 18/08/2020 20:01

Being a single mum will be 100% better than being stuck with this juvenile loser. You deserve better. Be kind to yourself and get away from him as soon as you can.

CC12x · 18/08/2020 20:37

He sounds selfish Op. I no i wouldn't want to be with someone who went out drinking every weekend especially when we have kids. I no it doesn't seem like it at the moment but u will be happier if you end it and move on. Not right awat but in the long run you while have peace of mind of not having to worry about what hes up to. Its his loss, Good luck x

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 18/08/2020 20:51

It sounds to me like he is living in a fantasy land where you get to have kids and also live the life of a teenager. No adult gets to have kids and still go out as much and watch as many video games and go out on the piss as often. And if they somehow manage that because their partner facilitates it, there is no way their partner wants to shag them after doing the work for both of them.

Are you sure he'd want to take your toddler half the time? Sounds like he is more suited on being an every other weekend dad