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I think this it the end.

87 replies

YourHandInMyHand · 18/08/2020 10:27

Been with DP 5 years, lived together 3 of them. When we met I was a single mum and he was a bachelor. We now have a 1yr old together as well as my eldest.

Last Friday DP went out "to watch the football with his dad" and didn't come home. He often goes out and comes back at ridiculous times eg 2/3am but has never just not come home. I think he is a problem drinker, he says he's just sociable and I don't get it as I'm not. (I am sociable just on a different level, and my socialising doesn't involve getting totally pissed).

When he came back he said sorry I fell asleep at my mates, whatever I do is wrong, I'm only going out once a week (untrue), it's not like I'm out every night, etc blah blah blah. Basically turned it around on me as though I'm an evil witch that never lets him have fun. He summed up at the end with "I don't want to keep getting things wrong, if you don't think I can maybe we need to have a think about what we both want."

Saturday night he nodded off after getting toddler DS2 to sleep. Sunday night we talked. He said he feels like he doesn't know who he is anymore and he's lost his confidence as we've lost our intimacy.

2020 I think we've had sex twice and even things like hugs have eroded over lockdown. He's an extrovert and I'm an introvert. He's struggled in lockdown not seeing anyone or socialising and I've struggled having a house full of people needing me 24/7. Needy toddler. Eldest has special needs and has had no special school, no time out with a carer no time even at his dad's house since Mid March. I'm completely overhwelmed and overstretched, basically I've shut/broke down. Im now on day 10 of sertraline after approaching my GP about my low mood and anxiety both being at worrying levels.

Monday day I was googling introvert/extrovert relationships, how to regain intimacy in a relationship, etc. Trying to think how we can understand each other better and try and get a plan together of how to get back on track.

Monday night we talked again. I asked him if he had any ideas or thoughts on what we should do, and he said he thinks maybe he needs some time away from home to try and get his old self back. I asked what he missed and what he wanted more/less of and basically he's sad he doesn't watch football as much, rarely watches films, and doesn't go out as much as he'd like. And the sex.

So his solution that he's leaning to is more, go to his mates and have a nice old time I'm presuming.

He also said what if I get the old me back but you still have no sex drive, then I still won't feel happy.

It's all me, me me.

I've always known we were very different, he's right on that one, but I thought we could make it work. I'd hoped we could regain our intimacy and having looked into it it's a sensible plan of how to do so.

But now I'm questioning if I want to. I feel like ont he Saturday morning he wanted me to give him an out. Which he says he doesn't. But he wants to solve HIS unhappiness and then think if he wants to save us I think. Whereas my initial thoughts were how do we get back to both being happy together, his outlook seems somewhat different.

There's things I've been unhappy with too but I feel he just wants to do what he wants and have me be a "cool" girlfriend who let's him go out anytime, etc and not question anything or demand anything.

I'm heartbroken that I may have to split time with my toddler. I never wanted that. I never thought I'd have a second child and only did so as I thought we were solid enough to work through anything that came our way.

I know I can cope as a single mum but it's not what I wanted for DS2. Also we private rent, he's the main tenant, and it's a bigger more expensive house than I had previously.

I feel completely overhwelmed and heartbroken.

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YourHandInMyHand · 25/08/2020 15:44

Also, he's told his mum and sis and apparently neither are impressed with him. I think this is why is he is wary of others knowing too. I'm not going to keep quiet about us splitting though. I'm a quiet private person but I will want support from my friends.

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ravenmum · 26/08/2020 09:18

He also mentioned this morning that he doesn't want to "announce" our split.
Just to keep up the alternative POV, he might not want the precise timing to be known to everyone; would rather keep the dates a bit fuzzy, to hide any potential overlaps or the speed of any new relationship.

ravenmum · 26/08/2020 09:19

i.e. if he's been claiming you split up a while ago, an announcement would rather spoil that.

Themadcatparade · 26/08/2020 09:54

Selfish prick.

Here’s a thought. Why don’t you suggest that YOU leave him at home with DC and go and have some girly time and ‘find your old self?’

He sounds utterly uncommitted and selfish. You commit when you decide to have children not pull this shit. If he is unhappy, he should admit it and either try Harder to make this work or leave. Not beg for a free pass for lads time so he can drink beer watch football and shag about. Arse.

fuandylp · 26/08/2020 09:55

Just keep telling him you're not compatible and want different things because all this stuff about "we might realize how important we are to each is other" is just to keep you hanging around as a Plan B if whatever he is up to doesn't work out.
I've had someone do this to me too and at the time wasn't wise or strong enough to tell him to do one.
He was also a big drinker and the way he would blame me for everything sounds similar. He'd say I was controlling because I asked him to cut back on the drinking and not disappear nearly every night of the week with his mates getting wasted - ie. living a single life but having the convenience of someone waiting at home for him to look after him (very much the way some teenage lads are with their mothers).

You've split. That's the end of it. He is not moving back in ever.
Stick to it otherwise he'll be back in a few months time and the cycle will begin again.

TwentyViginti · 26/08/2020 10:30

He wants to string you along as plan B if he decides the grass isn't greener.

YourHandInMyHand · 26/08/2020 18:41

Oh please do not worry. I'm a seasoned MNer and won't be conned or swayed. I'm well aware of what a selfish tosser he's being and we are over. He won't be coming back!!

Also - he keeps mentioning can we do this together with the kids. Stuff like days out, meals, etc - basically the fun stuff. Hmm I've been non committal as I'm at a point now where I just want him to go on Friday and I'm worried he'll get cold feet if he doesn't see it all being rosy.

I WON'T be doing stuff like days out and meals out with him with the kids. Surely that's not unreasonable?! I'd maybe make an exception for a meal with MIL together purely as I feel for her and she loves both of my boys so much. But why should he get to enjoy all the fun time parts??! He can obviously take them for days out and meals himself but if its his time with the kids surely that's for him to focus on them and me being there will give mixed messages??

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YourHandInMyHand · 26/08/2020 18:43

I hadn't thought about announcing it might mean he had perhaps already told people or made people think we had already split. That is definitely another option. Who knows!

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fuandylp · 26/08/2020 19:09

I WON'T be doing stuff like days out and meals out with him with the kids. Surely that's not unreasonable?!

Not unreasonable at all. If he wants to go out on a fun day out with the kids then he can do that when he has them.
You all going out and playing happy families is too confusing for everyone.

MulticolourMophead · 26/08/2020 20:36

@YourHandInMyHand

I hadn't thought about announcing it might mean he had perhaps already told people or made people think we had already split. That is definitely another option. Who knows!
But once he's gone, he doesn't get to decide that you can't announce the split. He can't dictate, can he....
YourHandInMyHand · 27/08/2020 09:03

Multicolourmophead - nope he can't can he. I'll be simply changing my fb status. Will be interesting to see if that brings any further information out of the woodwork won't it.

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BrowncoatWaffles · 27/08/2020 14:30

Definitely interesting to see what the reaction is to a status change.

1304togo · 27/08/2020 15:47

the more i read the more i think the posters saying he wants all the perks of having a family/being in a relationship but none of the actual limitations (it sounds like he goes out a LOT, vs your barely ever, if at all?)... glad to see the later posts from the OP having mentally checked out of the relationship.

funnel your energy into people that deserve your energy op - your kids. anything further on him is going to be a waste.

MulticolourMophead · 27/08/2020 20:41

@YourHandInMyHand

Multicolourmophead - nope he can't can he. I'll be simply changing my fb status. Will be interesting to see if that brings any further information out of the woodwork won't it.
I guess it will be interesting.

In any case, here's to you having a better future than you thought. Thanks

LordOfTheOnionRings · 27/08/2020 20:51

Did you ask him if there was anyone else?

YourHandInMyHand · 28/08/2020 05:22

LordOfTheOnionRings yes I've asked him on a couple of separate occasions and been told no. I've asked if he has feelings for anyone else, has anyone happened with anyone else etc and stated I'd rather know now than it eventually come out. He's said no there is no one else /nothing has happened with anyone else.

Tbh it could just be the lure of the pub with his mates. Sad Who knows.

I'm laid awake. It's 5:20am. DS2 woke up at 4 with his teething and I've not been able to get back to sleep. Today is the day he moved his office stuff back to his actual office, and he goes to his friends.

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YourHandInMyHand · 28/08/2020 05:22

Moves not moved. Damn autocorrect.

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AverageNSad · 28/08/2020 07:13

Flowers for you OP. I think you are doing the best thing. You sound so strong. I wish you well.

unicornsarereal72 · 28/08/2020 07:51

Hope you have something nice planned for yourself tonight or over the weekend.

Your situation was like reading my life a few years ago. Ex would go out all night and not come back. Falling asleep on friends sofas. Someone's birthday. Always something. He wasnt happy with us and I should try harder he wanted more fun in his life. When actually he was doing coke and shagging someone 12 years younger than him.

He also wanted us to do things with the kids together. It was so he didn't have to actually think or parent. But ow/gf does that for him now.

You sounds very strong and I hope today goes as smoothly as it can. You know you will all come out the other side.

Make sure he takes everything he can today. No coming back for this and that. Where it goes isn't your problem. Have you put in a claim
For UC. Single person deduction on your council tax. Go through the bills. Make sure you aren't paying his phone bill or car insurance for example.

Arrange how contact is going to be. I know your youngest is only little so a day out a week would work. With one over night once he has his place. As the baby gets older this can be built on. The day and time is set in stone. I know how hard this is. But my ex really messed us about. Not turning up or being on his way which then took thee hours to come a mile. Chopping and changing to suit his social life. I was flexible at the start but soon realised it was too much for the children. So went to eow if he was 30 mins late we went out and he would have to wait until next eow. He raged and swore at me at the start but quickly learnt his temper tantrums didn't work on me anymore.

Gather good people around you for support. If that means moving so be it. A fresh start is a good thing. Just take each day as it comes and look after yourself.

Menopausalgoddess · 28/08/2020 08:49

Hope you're doing ok. This lockdown/pandemic has had a weird effect on people. Was he a decent partner before this? Did he even message you to let you know he was staying over at a friend's house?

YourHandInMyHand · 29/08/2020 08:28

Yes him coming on days out and meals with me means me doing all the thinking planning and driving etc with him just showing up and enjoying the fun. He can plan and handle these things with the kids himself.

Maybe down the line I will want us to have the odd meal out together or day out but not as a regular thing and definitely not while we are all adjusting to this.

Sadly our issues where there before lockdown, and lockdown just magnified things. As did the pubs reopening after lockdown.

He is a very hands on dad and pitches in with things like pots and bedtime etc but as I've mentioned further upthread it always feels like he thinks this is "being good" or earning brownie points or something rather than being something equal we should both do.

I'm feeling very torn about no one knowing we've split. I want people to know! I feel like I need support. I also don't want to bump into people and have to tell them in person. And yes, a tiny part of me wants people to know as I know they will understand and he will feel judged.

What would others do?? I'm a quiet and private person but I want my friends to know so they can be there and know what I've got going on.

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Username2010 · 29/08/2020 09:28

Hi OP.
I’ve just read the whole thread!
Wow, what a complete knob he is. I haven’t been in this position personally HOWEVER, I have been the OW ( they was separated, apparently ) I don’t know if your ex has another woman but it’s very similar to the situation I went through.
Just wanted to give you an insight to what could possibly be.
My ex was together with his ex for 10 years had 1 DD - they split and he told me that it was all her fault why they split bla bla, however, they’d still spend loads of time together when they had separated for the sake of their DD. Days out / meals out, she would stay at his Xmas eve etc etc ( by this point we wasn’t actually together but live close by so I could see 😂 ) whatever you do ( I know you’ve said you won’t ) but do not agree to loving a life like that, I know 100% the reason why my ex was so happy having her still in his life ( even though he said he didn’t like her 🙄 ) was purely to keep an eye on her and prevent her from moving on. Men can be thick but also very very Manipulative. Don’t allow him to have any insight on your life. This will stop your life and if and when you find someone else You’ll see his true colours for sure!! I know it can be nice for the children to see mum and sad together but in time it’s worse I believe anyway!
I hope everything goes well today. Thinking of you!

YourHandInMyHand · 29/08/2020 09:38

Thank you. We won't be spending time together with the kids. I think at this stage that would be confusing for them.

I'd maybe consider later down the line sharing say, a birthday tea out for example but that would be about it.

What are your views on him not wanting to announce it? I've changed my status on fb to single but it doesn't show the change in people's feeds/timelines apparently. I feel I want people to kbow:
A) so I have emotional support from friends
B) so he is accountable if he has lied to anyone
C) so he realises I won't be letting him back

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BuffyTheBuffetSlayer · 29/08/2020 11:29

I dont think you should allow him to dictate anything. He wants to be single so he's got it. You are also now single, you dont have to appease him anymore. Enjoy being free and making your own decisions. Text or phone your friends, tell your family, try and arrange a night off with the kids and get friends around you because you need them, have wine, a laugh and a cry. If he moans shut him right down. Tell him he did this. He is free to cope however he wants but so are you.
I'm still shocked at how he has behaved, and how self centred he is, just wow! What an absolute child!!
Let him live with all the consequences, especially judgement from others.

unicornsarereal72 · 29/08/2020 11:40

Your loyalty towards him stopped when he decided your weren't a priority to him.

Gather support around you. Don't lie or cover up for him. Your priority is you and the children.