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I'm so fed up of this crap. Is it acceptable behaviour?

103 replies

RadeTheSweets · 17/07/2020 06:59

H has always been reserved and introverted, likes his own space etc. But lately he is getting worse and worse.

Doesn't seem to want us round the house during the day when he's working and constantly asks if we're off yet or have plans for the day. I lost my job so not even working PT right now.

This morning DS got up early and went over to his side of the bed, touched something like a pair of earphones or whatever. DH screamed 'Noooo!' In the nastiest way. His tone was awful. I said why on earth are you speaking to him this way?! He said he's a cunt waking him up and touching stuff. I said how about me sleeping? He said he should be asleep for another 2 hours because that's how it works. I said so you think you have a right to sleep in until 8am every week day? He said yep, I do. He gives me a lay in on a Sunday but I pay for it

I'm so fed up of H'd behaviour. Won't even come to a Sunday roast at his own families houses and everyone is upset by him turning their offers down constantly.

His moods got worse since starting to smoke weed about a year ago. Now he's doing it a lot and I'm convinced it's making him more Moody. I thought it was suppose to make people more chilled out. He's too chilled out and as a result seems irritated by family life.

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GilbertMarkham · 17/07/2020 11:07

People like this (selfish, lazy (in terms of household, kids etc.), antisocial have three choices when it becomes clear how incompatible family life is with character & priorities ....

  • step up.
  • inflict a shitty life on their part of and children
  • separate and male their partner carry more than they ever should have as a single parent.

He appears to be going for option two or three (though he'll make you make the decision around three).

GilbertMarkham · 17/07/2020 11:08

*make

BurtsBeesKnees · 17/07/2020 11:12

Haha he'll have dc 50% if the time if you leave, don't make me laugh. He can't even get up with his own kids at the best of times.

He sounds like a junkie loser, who's selfish and self centred and boldly rude to boot.

I'm not sure what you or your dc get out if the relationship

funnylittlefloozie · 17/07/2020 11:13

He would have to pay you maintenance if you split up, so you wouldnt necessarily suffer financially. Also i am sorry, but i think you would see a HUGE change in your son when he isnt around an unpredictable abuser every day.

SoulofanAggron · 17/07/2020 11:18

Weed can be very damaging to people's mental health and interpersonal skills. It'll increase his tendency to be selfish and lazy.

Then I said it again and His response was shut up. I said excuse me?! He said shut up. Shut up. Calm voice

This is verbal abuse, even if it was in a calm voice. He was also verbally abusive to your son. Weed doesn't make someone verbally abusive- that's his choice.

Sometimes abusers are 'nice' for a bit- they have to be or we'd separate from them earlier.

BlingLoving · 17/07/2020 11:33

Plus he's after DS 50/50 and I've never really spent hours away from him, let alone days

No, he's just saying the to control you. He has no intention of having DS 50/50.

He's a complete waste of space. As far as he's concerned, his needs are more important - whether that's sleeping, visiting others, having a social life, engaging with DS or whatever. I doubt he'll change, particularly while he's smoking that much.

RedOasis · 17/07/2020 11:38

It’s you or the weed. Y do I want to live a miserable life op? Don’t do that. Unfortunately as he’s being so unreasonable the kids well being falls to you and you must consider them in this.

SallyWD · 17/07/2020 12:09

He called your child a cunt?! Did your son hear? That's awful. I like my own space and get irritated by everyone being around all the time but I can still speak kindly to my family!

Ingridla · 17/07/2020 13:10

He called your son a cunt? I wouldn't stand for that regardless of the other stuff, did he want to have children?

He wants you both out of the house so he can be alone and smoke weed yeh?

Well I'd give him exactly that. Tell him he can get to fuck and move out then he has all the lay ins he needs and you and your son can move on together without his bullshit.

RadeTheSweets · 17/07/2020 14:32

Okay, I just need to clarify I few things. I really do have the best intentions for my son but I feel so stuck it's very difficult Sad

You need to look harder at why your son is so different in a different household

As I keep saying, he isn't any different in another house beyond the way he's acting around other children. Which is going to happen since we don't have any other children in ours. He doesn't approach other children at nursery or go near them. But he's a different child at SIL's in the sense that he will follow the children there and tolerate them playing alongside with him, which is a Huge achievement for our DS

H is really close to DS. In the sense that other than me, he's the only person he trusts and will behave like himself around at home beyond me. I feel horrible at the thought of taking DS from that. But I understand H often doesn't have the time of day for DS. And is extremely annoyed by him. But DS doesn't see that (yet) so he's his bubbly self regardless and just thinks his dad loves and treats him like me

I suppose I could list quite a few things I love about H but they are what should be 'normal' in a relationship so they'll only get shot down. I understand that. I always liked that he's never lied to me (as far as I'm aware), never come up short with a lie. Never been dishonest to me. I know I can trust him 100%. Which should be a given in any marriage but I see so so many friends and family with men that lie to them constantly

Obviously I feel inclined to let the C word from this morning go since he's apologised and does seem very guilty about it. But he isn't phased about how he has spoken to me.

And, every day, there is a very clear tone and feeling that I'm expected to take the heaviest load of all in terms of parenting. He's joked a lot before about being 'leader of the pack' and 'the man of the house' but said it as if he was pissing around. He's never said that to me with a straight face. But his general tone makes me feel there is a lot of truth in it.

I think he genuinely loves me but clearly doesn't find me funny or interesting as a person. Rarely asks for my opinion on anything (world topics etc).

I think we would be better off separated by financially I can't see the light yet. I don't have another job yet. He doesn't own this house. My name isn't on it. I don't have family to live with. If we were mortgaged I would be far more inclined to separate as I know I'd get half and could start up new without such huge uncertainty.

My mum lived in a hostel with me when I was a little girl and I still remember now as a mother myself just how brave she was. I remember thinking it was all some big adventure but looking back, she was often at breaking point

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BlingLoving · 17/07/2020 14:47

Aaah OP, it sounds so hard and soul destroying. You don't have to make a decision today because a bunch of strangers on the internet told you to. Tkae your time to figure out what you want and what's acceptable.

I'm guessing your Ds is more comfortable with family because he knows them and feels safe. So of course you want to spend time with them. Can you go alone?

funnylittlefloozie · 17/07/2020 14:48

If everything is fine, why did you post? Come on, love, you KNOW its all wrong. He treats you badly, speaks to you as if you're an idiot, uses disgusting language to your son, doesn't pull his weight around the house, smokes weed all the time... there is NOTHING appealing about him, really, is there? You were sick of his crap this morning, arent you still sick of it?

hellsbellsmelons · 17/07/2020 14:54

What do you mean, he doesn't own this house?
Is it rented?

As a PP said.
You are gonna need some time to get everything in order.
No-one is expecting you to leave right now.
But do seriously consider all your options.
Have a good look at what separation would look like.
You will be entitled to benefits, housing maybe and maintenance from him.
Take your time.
Make some calls and see where you stand.
This weekend, go on your own with DS to see BIL and enjoy yourself.
Just get some distance between you this weekend and think about everything.
Think about THIS for the rest of your life.
Or for the next 10-20 years!
Sounds exhausting!

RandomMess · 17/07/2020 14:56

He isn't going to get any happier...

He is incredibly selfish - he will only do what he wants, no compromise, no care about what you or DS deserve.

I suspect the weed has made him worse and the man you fell in love has slowly disappeared. The being unpredictable towards DS is very cruel Sad

TwilightPeace · 17/07/2020 15:20

I think he genuinely loves me but clearly doesn't find me funny or interesting as a person. Rarely asks for my opinion on anything (world topics etc).

In what way does he love you then? Or does he just love what you do for him? Within his narrow parameters of how he expects you to behave....

jessstan2 · 17/07/2020 15:24

He and his language sound absolutely dreadful. I understand being startled if woken up suddenly but he should learn to curb it, it is part of family life.

funnylittlefloozie · 17/07/2020 16:25

He doesn't own this house. My name isn't on it.

Is it a house tied to his job?

RadeTheSweets · 17/07/2020 17:02

No, it's private a rent

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RadeTheSweets · 17/07/2020 17:03

That should say a private rent! I turnt French there Grin

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Sidou · 17/07/2020 17:39

If he has not always behaved like this then clearly there is something going wrong for him at the moment, why has he started smoking weed in the last year, are you sure his not suffering from depression? if this is the norm though then I would tell him to sort himself out or all those little luxuries he seems to get as a man and you dont will suddenly disappear for good.

AlternativePerspective · 17/07/2020 17:47

I’m sorry but you are partly to blame here.

Your DH is a loser who is a druggy and calls your DS a cunt and you haven’t done anything about it.

If you stand by and let this happen then you are facilitating his abuse of your child.

You need to get rid of him.

differentnameforthis · 18/07/2020 02:51

Stop focusing on what you ds is like at other people's houses...your son is being verbally attacked by his own father, in his safe space.

If you dh can call his child such a nasty name at three, what is he capable of when he is a teen?

You say his moods are getting worse, he doesn't want to be with you or his family, doesn't even to seem to want you around.

Yet you are going to let it go?

RadeTheSweets · 18/07/2020 08:24

I focused on what he's like at other people's houses because previous posters were saying 'that tells you all you need to know'. When it really doesn't. It's mixing what I said. People have made it sound like I've said he's timid at home and happy elsewhere

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ShesMadeATwatOfMePam · 18/07/2020 11:18

Whats your next steps op?

RadeTheSweets · 18/07/2020 15:28

I don't really have a clear plan. I spoke to his family extensively about this last night. They are really fed up and are talking to him this weekend (I'm away at my Nan's this weekend). Apparently they're going to the house and not leaving until he agrees to talk

I told him this morning he either changes for good or we leave, for good

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