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He refuses to end it... but he’s ignoring me

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WineInTheSun · 12/07/2020 14:10

Trying to keep this as brief as I can.

I met a guy on an app, really interesting and successful. A lot older than me (late 40s, I’m in my twenties) but we had so much in common. We FaceTimed for 2 hours a day, for around 3 weeks. He told me his longest relationship was on/off for 2 years, he’s never done the marriage/kids thing.

He seemed perfect- when I requested he had an STI test prior to us meeting he did just that and email me copies of his certificates. He did say he had doubts about my age as he wanted something serious and wondered if at my age I would really want that, I aalssured him I did.

He then paid for me to visit him at his second him in Europe for 5 days- we had an amazing time. Lots of eating out, he toasted over every drinks ‘to many more times here with you’ and even introduced me to his friends, twice! I went for dinner with him and some of his friends and then again I went to a party at his friend’s home. We were introduced as a couple. We only had sex twice in the 5 days as he was honest- with his age and alcohol consumption he can’t always perform. I accepted this as part and parcel of an older man. But he was otherwise still affectionate, cuddling in bed etc. He did mention an ex messaged him asking for money (he is wealthy) and then we had a conversation about exes, etc and he said he had taken my advice and responded to her request based on this. He said his greatest regrets were girls he dated 20 years ago whom he could have had university aged children with by now.

At the party with his friends, a friend of his (female) said to me ‘you know he just really wants kid? He’s with you because he thinks you would be a good mother’. I let this slip and kind of laughed/agreed I hope to have children.

The next day it was time for me to fly back to the U.K., I was hungover but said I had a lovely time and he said ‘it will be great to have you back sometime’ he told me to message him when safely on the flight etc.

So I did... and he asked if I was feeling better. Once home j knew something wasn’t right in the evening, so I messaged saying ‘do you want to see me again as I like you?’ And helps response was ‘we need to talk’. I panicked and tried to call him which he ignored. On the Monday I sent a lengthy message stating I felt anxious about having had unprotected sex, I had trusted he would keep in touch/was serious etc and to say if he does not want to see me again or speak to me to which he responded ‘let’s speak tomorrow’. I then ignored him for 2 days- he then messaged asking how I was saying he was conscious we hadn’t spoken and he hoped I felt better. I then responded saying I felt he had been intentionally cruel to leave me on edge like this, wondering and I felt hurt.

He replied ‘sorry you’re hurt! I’ll call!’
So he called 2 days ago and said essentially that he just needed time, he’s not good at communicating and sometimes he does this. I told him ‘I am not a mind reader and how do I know that? If you don’t want to see me then just say! Because what you have done is cruel’. He was adamant though that he does want to see me, he said ‘ I don’t want this to be the call to end all calls, that’s why I wouldn’t say that. I just needed time.... I hope to see you again.... I might be in the U.K. next week.... I just need time....’

He’s an older guy who has broke up with women in the past, there is no reason why he wouldn’t break up with me. So why is he not? Why the insistence of oh no I don’t want to not see you but now barely contacting me? I pointed out to him that he used to give me 2 hours of his time a day, nothing that significant has changed from what I know to which he replied ‘I know, I just needed time to think, see where this will go etc....’. Why introduce me twice to married friends if the plan was always to end it? I’m so confused. I really liked him and don’t know whether he’s trying to politely dump me (makes no sense why he won’t say this though) or if he is a massive commitment phobe and that’s why he’s never married/kids so is pulling back?

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CallmeAngelina · 12/07/2020 14:13

You had unprotected sex?!
I presume it's now too late for the MAP?
Leave this one be. He sounds flaky and no one needs that

midnightstar66 · 12/07/2020 14:16

Did you travel abroad to stay with him the first ever time you met him? That's aas a risky move. I imagine he's got other people on the go and is keeping his options open. If he doesn't end it you can!

WineInTheSun · 12/07/2020 14:17

Yes Blush I had seen the negative test results from his full STI screening just days before (including blood borne viruses) so I was caught up in the moment really and thought it was safe. Too late for the MAP now but I am due on at the end of this week so can then. I highly doubt I am pregnant, he drinks far too much and has never conceived a child in all his years

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Hoggleludo · 12/07/2020 14:18

I'm sorry

But you sound a lot of work

Why on earth did you have unprotected sex with him?!?? That's just ludicrous!

He doesn't want to know. End it. Take control. Be confident.

WineInTheSun · 12/07/2020 14:19

Yes I traveled to meet him, we got on so well and it was a flexible ticket etc. I was confident. So you think the whole settling down thing is a load of rubbish? If he has multiple people on the go then his married friends must surely be annoyed by his constantly changing female dinner/party guests at their home!

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Hoggleludo · 12/07/2020 14:20

Herpes can lay dormant for 10 years

The test would come back negative unless he had an open sore

That was just. Gosh. You flew to a country abroad. To stay with a guy you don't know. To have unprotected sex and you're worried he's flaky?!?

Good god.

Hoggleludo · 12/07/2020 14:21

I think he's played you

100%. Sorry.

WineInTheSun · 12/07/2020 14:22

If he doesn’t want to know then I wish he would just say! And also when did it change I wonder? Went went from a party at his friend’s home/cuddling in bed and my flying home that morning to this! He was the one who initially even suggested to me we both delete the dating app we met on (I don’t want to check if he’s on there, worried I would be very hurt)

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PatchworkElmer · 12/07/2020 14:22

Of course you could be pregnant!

Regardless, this relationship sounds hard work. Stop giving him all the power here, OP. His actions aren’t tallying up with his words- I’d walk away now I think.

namechange12a · 12/07/2020 14:22

OP it's very concerning that you have such little regard for your safety. You flew to a European city for five days at his expense and had unprotected sex with him. Are you aware that there are sexual predators on Apps that rape and murder people?

He paid for your trip and in return, you had unprotected sex with a stranger. What does that sound like to you?

OP wake up.

omg35 · 12/07/2020 14:24

Regardless of any of the detail in your OP, he's not finishing it with you because he's waiting for you to finish it with him so he doesn't feel like the bad guy. Walk away. If he was actually keen he wouldn't be behaving like this

Floralnomad · 12/07/2020 14:24

What self respecting 20 something goes abroad to have unprotected sex with a middle aged man who drinks so much he can’t always even get it to work ? Seriously OP if one of your friends had done what you’ve done what would you think of them .

CorianderLord · 12/07/2020 14:24

Sounds like a man who loses interest after he sleeps with women

PumpkinP · 12/07/2020 14:27

Is this real? Shock

sonjadog · 12/07/2020 14:27

He has played you. He got a weekend with sex and some fun and that was all he wanted. Walk away from this now, and cross your fingers that you aren't pregnant.

LaurieFairyCake · 12/07/2020 14:28

I'm guessing you're attractive as well as being young

Sounds like he doesn't want to hire a selection of prostituted women and you were (much) cheaper Sad

You don't KNOW him. You don't go away abroad with rich guys 20 years older than you and have unprotected sex.

This is a very hard lesson but you have been used.

namechange12a · 12/07/2020 14:29

She wasn't played she was solicited.

merryhouse · 12/07/2020 14:32

He drinks a lot.

He's "not good at communicating"

He gets bored of women very quickly.

He's two decades older than you and that's already beginning to show.

He thinks it's a perfectly normal part of life for women to want him for his money.

His long-term friends believe that he wants you primarily as a brood mare.

To be honest, he sounds decidedly tedious. I'd just ignore him if I were you. (and buy a pregnancy test and consider whether you would have a termination)

WineInTheSun · 12/07/2020 14:32

So maybe the married friends are used to him doing this with different women? I don’t understand and why the friend’s wife felt the need to make the comment about him just wanting a child. You’re right, he has had his phone. I doubt he’s going to call again asking to meet when he’s in the U.K.? Or do you think he could? He was so insistent he wants something serious and actually had doubts about my age as he felt I wouldn’t want anything serious!

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WineInTheSun · 12/07/2020 14:34

I was insulted by the friend’s comment, it was clear her and her husband had discussed and had she had no issue saying it to me

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midnightstar66 · 12/07/2020 14:35

If he has multiple people on the go then his married friends must surely be annoyed by his constantly changing female dinner/party guests at their home!

They are very likely used to it. And quite possibly acquaintances rather than friends anyway - more common in an ex pat community. Tbh my fear of being raped or murdered would have been far higher than that of catching chlamydia. It's also not common for men in their 40's to have performance issues based on age alone. Sounds like this bloke has all kinds of issues going on! Be glad you're safe and be more careful in future

sonjadog · 12/07/2020 14:36

Yes, I would imagine you aren't the first woman he has done it with. He likes the illusion of having a proper relationship for a few days without the commitment. Why the friend´s wife said, that I don't know. Maybe she is a shit-stirrer, maybe she wanted to give you a warning of sorts? I wouldn't spend any more time thinking about her.

CodenameVillanelle · 12/07/2020 14:37

He lovebombed you. It was all bollocks. And you! Flying out to a country in Europe THE FIRST TIME you meet a man from a dating app and having unprotected sex??? Are you even old enough to go out on your own? That is absolutely, suicidally insane. You are so lucky that the worst thing you got is a touch of rejection.

midnightstar66 · 12/07/2020 14:38

People say all sorts, especially after a few drinks. I wouldn't put any meaning or thought in to what she said. It's very common for men on dating sites to blow very hot then very cold. There is a good reason many of them are single

AgentProvocateur · 12/07/2020 14:41

I can’t think of a polite way to ask this, but did you meet him on a ‘normal’ dating site, or was it more niche - sugar daddy etc?