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He refuses to end it... but he’s ignoring me

107 replies

WineInTheSun · 12/07/2020 14:10

Trying to keep this as brief as I can.

I met a guy on an app, really interesting and successful. A lot older than me (late 40s, I’m in my twenties) but we had so much in common. We FaceTimed for 2 hours a day, for around 3 weeks. He told me his longest relationship was on/off for 2 years, he’s never done the marriage/kids thing.

He seemed perfect- when I requested he had an STI test prior to us meeting he did just that and email me copies of his certificates. He did say he had doubts about my age as he wanted something serious and wondered if at my age I would really want that, I aalssured him I did.

He then paid for me to visit him at his second him in Europe for 5 days- we had an amazing time. Lots of eating out, he toasted over every drinks ‘to many more times here with you’ and even introduced me to his friends, twice! I went for dinner with him and some of his friends and then again I went to a party at his friend’s home. We were introduced as a couple. We only had sex twice in the 5 days as he was honest- with his age and alcohol consumption he can’t always perform. I accepted this as part and parcel of an older man. But he was otherwise still affectionate, cuddling in bed etc. He did mention an ex messaged him asking for money (he is wealthy) and then we had a conversation about exes, etc and he said he had taken my advice and responded to her request based on this. He said his greatest regrets were girls he dated 20 years ago whom he could have had university aged children with by now.

At the party with his friends, a friend of his (female) said to me ‘you know he just really wants kid? He’s with you because he thinks you would be a good mother’. I let this slip and kind of laughed/agreed I hope to have children.

The next day it was time for me to fly back to the U.K., I was hungover but said I had a lovely time and he said ‘it will be great to have you back sometime’ he told me to message him when safely on the flight etc.

So I did... and he asked if I was feeling better. Once home j knew something wasn’t right in the evening, so I messaged saying ‘do you want to see me again as I like you?’ And helps response was ‘we need to talk’. I panicked and tried to call him which he ignored. On the Monday I sent a lengthy message stating I felt anxious about having had unprotected sex, I had trusted he would keep in touch/was serious etc and to say if he does not want to see me again or speak to me to which he responded ‘let’s speak tomorrow’. I then ignored him for 2 days- he then messaged asking how I was saying he was conscious we hadn’t spoken and he hoped I felt better. I then responded saying I felt he had been intentionally cruel to leave me on edge like this, wondering and I felt hurt.

He replied ‘sorry you’re hurt! I’ll call!’
So he called 2 days ago and said essentially that he just needed time, he’s not good at communicating and sometimes he does this. I told him ‘I am not a mind reader and how do I know that? If you don’t want to see me then just say! Because what you have done is cruel’. He was adamant though that he does want to see me, he said ‘ I don’t want this to be the call to end all calls, that’s why I wouldn’t say that. I just needed time.... I hope to see you again.... I might be in the U.K. next week.... I just need time....’

He’s an older guy who has broke up with women in the past, there is no reason why he wouldn’t break up with me. So why is he not? Why the insistence of oh no I don’t want to not see you but now barely contacting me? I pointed out to him that he used to give me 2 hours of his time a day, nothing that significant has changed from what I know to which he replied ‘I know, I just needed time to think, see where this will go etc....’. Why introduce me twice to married friends if the plan was always to end it? I’m so confused. I really liked him and don’t know whether he’s trying to politely dump me (makes no sense why he won’t say this though) or if he is a massive commitment phobe and that’s why he’s never married/kids so is pulling back?

OP posts:
RantyAnty · 12/07/2020 15:37

The key thing is you need to assume all men are lying until they prove otherwise.

The guy was and still is a stranger.

CallmeAngelina · 12/07/2020 15:38

I would also suggest that if, by some unlucky chance, you do turn out to be pregnant, do NOT tell him and then think seriously about having a termination.

Headandheart · 12/07/2020 15:42

So you had unprotected sex thinking he would keep in touch afterwards. Does that mean you wanted to get pregnant?

Bodgedboxdye · 12/07/2020 15:44

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The thing is, do you want to be with someone that flakes out on you. If he was having these worries, he could have still spoken to you. Leaving you hanging is just mean.

I appreciate you like him and you’ve had a good weekend with him, but don’t let that cloud your judgement, see his actions now you’re away.

I feel that you want to hold onto him, but I suggest you don’t.

I’m not gunna say “end it” as I’m a stranger on an online forum, that’s your call. I just suggest you take a look at how he’s treated you since you came back here. (:

SleepingStandingUp · 12/07/2020 15:45

Op I'm unsure why you wanted to get pregnant by this guy? Because unprotected sex is exactly that, it's saying hey sperm, come impregnate me!! I thought you were going to suddenly say no stupid MN women, I'm in the coil/implant/pill etc, not yeah I thought it would add a little bit of zizz to see if I get pregnant!

I wouldn't rush to delete anything until you've got your period or poas

user135664323455 · 12/07/2020 15:46

Your background must be really sad for this to have seemed even slightly normal.

Have you not heard of trafficking?

gypsywater · 12/07/2020 15:47

You flew abroad and had sex with him? He got it a bit easy...surely? You're better than that OP, you're not a fly out escort service!

BertiesLanding · 12/07/2020 15:47

@WineInTheSun

Will ignore him and delete the chat with him so I cannot obsessively check
Block him. Take back some of the control you willingly hurled at his feet; learn to empower yourself.
gypsywater · 12/07/2020 15:55

Also he is totally married.

BuffaloMozzerella · 12/07/2020 15:55

He will contact you again when he feels like it. All this keeping you on your toes is just him making sure the entire relationship is on his terms, not yours.

He is not the catch or nice guy that you think he is. He will destroy your self confidence with this on/off shit. Walk away now and be grateful he showed his hand so early. Dont be fooled when he comes back saying all the right things.

Loads of men are a really good guy to their friends and make a shit partner. There's a reason why he hasn't had any longterm relationships at his age.

KetoWinnie · 12/07/2020 16:06

Trafficking 🙄

He's an ageing player.

OP if he calls you again be breezy but firm, oh, you? Kind of vibe. "sorry when i didnt hear from you i moved on". Be really certain

"Uncertainty is not for me!"

"Mixed messages are not for me. Good luck".

Take back control.

Ori37 · 12/07/2020 16:06

This guy sounds like trouble all over. He’s emotionally manipulating you so that he’s in control. He doesn’t sound like The One. Put this down to experience & move swiftly on. You should not waste a second more on him. It’ll end in tears, & I predict they’ll be yours unfortunately. Protect yourself from this outcome & don’t make contact again. That would be my advice to you reading your descriptions of his behaviour.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 12/07/2020 16:15

So many red flags!! Dump his ass. Hope you are not pregnant. Let this be a lesson to you to not do something stupid next time

Nearlyalmost50 · 12/07/2020 16:21

I find it kind of weird that you were making him show a certificate for STDs before you got out there- what if you got there and didn't fancy him, or didn't want to have sex with him?

Basically by making it seem like he was pursuing you, and you were playing hard to get, he got what he wanted which is a lovely young twenty something to have sex with and a fun few days in his holiday home (obviously he's married). Now, to keep you as part of that stable, especially as you have seen him and he's a bit older and probably shit in bed (this is not the norm I wouldn't say for all late forties), he's making you feel uncertain so you cling to the idea of not losing him and his holiday home...otherwise you might wake up and smell the roses!

OP, we all do silly things when young, this is sillier than some but you can learn. Block him and look for a more genuine connection.

DianaT1969 · 12/07/2020 16:23

Gosh, he saved about £3000 in sex worker fees. OP, you seriously need to wise up. Either become a well-paid sex worker and fly around Europe during Covid having unprotected sex with strangers, or stop doing this risky sh*t. Don't you have any friends or family to tell you when you are doing bonkers things?
You had a lot of gentle responses on this thread, but you need to understand that none of that was ever real or based on anything. How long do you think it takes to choose a life partner? A few day?? You lying in bed with him joking about future children with him...one day you will cringe at that.
Thank goodness you are home safe. Draw a line under this today and consider it a lesson learned.

AreYouLocal2 · 12/07/2020 16:27

You need to realise that some guys like to pump and dump.

iften · 12/07/2020 16:42

I think he's keeping you hanging on until he knows whether you're pregnant or not.

Message him in a week and tell him you've had a positive test, see what happens.

JammyHands · 12/07/2020 16:49

You met him at his second home in Europe? Where's his first home? Are you sure he hasn't got a wife/girlfriend and kids there?

WineInTheSun · 12/07/2020 16:51

His first home is in the U.K. but he has business interests in this particular European location. I know the address of the U.K. home but have not been there. He’s been in the European home note due to business/lockdown being better and lifted earlier there

OP posts:
2bazookas · 12/07/2020 16:58

You failed the job interview but he 's keeping you on hold for a free shag next time he's in UK

iften · 12/07/2020 17:06

He's looking for a young, healthy, brood mare. You were told this by someone who knows.

That's what he's waiting for.

Gawdzilla · 12/07/2020 17:09

@WineInTheSun

Will ignore him and delete the chat with him so I cannot obsessively check
But you will. Why are you waiting for him to decide? Have you been blinded by the £££? If he contacted you and offered another weekend away would you go? Your self respect will thank you if you message him and tell him you are no longer interested. This has disaster written all over it.
gypsywater · 12/07/2020 17:09

No such thing as a free lunch / trip to Europe...

tenlittlecygnets · 12/07/2020 17:17

What do you like shoot him? Why are you attracted to him? That's a huge age difference.

Sounds like there's a reason why he's never started down- he's a commitment phobe.

But if this isn't working for you, stop writing about what he's thinking - end it yourself. He sounds immature and uncaring tbh.

And what were you thinking, having unprotected sex?? You don't know him!

tenlittlecygnets · 12/07/2020 17:17

What do you like about him? That should say Hmm