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Please help am drowning

77 replies

Whatonearth2020 · 24/06/2020 23:27

DH said at start of lockdown he wanted divorce after 15yrs. We have 3 DS. Have to tell them next week. I can’t function.

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PornStarHotChocolate · 25/06/2020 12:12

@Whatonearth2020

I have spoken to 5 solicitors - same advice from all: he has to give x% of his salary for child maintenance (an unbelievably petty sum given his earnings. And then because of length of marriage some spousal until DC3 in secondary school in 2yrs. After that am expected to support myself. We have to be housed but not in the large house we have now - apparently it’s based on need. Our pensions are not dissimilar right now - I paid a lot in when younger and he’s only just sitting his out although in a year or two it will be massive. But that doesn’t matter now. All advised me to leave the house now to get bulk of equity as when DS are grown it will have to be 50:50. I am struggling to see how this can be the situation and agree heartily with the lady who posted on another thread that you should never give up your financial independence. If I had the funds I would kick him out of our lives as much as possible- but for now as I see it he holds all the cards...
That's the bare minimum though OP - you should work out what you will need and present that to him. Perhaps inflate a bit so that when he knocks it down it's still enough. Try and keep everything practical (avoid emotional if you can) and just deliver it as what you need for the children.
Whatonearth2020 · 25/06/2020 12:29

Sorry I didn’t make it clear re house - I meant sell it. If we sell now I can expect large proportion of equity (albeit not enough to buy another in this area). If I wait then I get less - I believe it’s called ‘Mesher trap’

I have just read the script - OMG - it’s exactly correct - even down to the gardening! Is this a well know thing then??? Sorry to be so naive!

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endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2020 12:30

No! Do not leave the house. Perhaps they mean sell the house, so that you can buy one in your own name. But you must not leave the house.

endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2020 12:31

Xpost.
You need a really good solicitor. It will be worth it.

Carlottacoffee · 25/06/2020 12:38

I think they are advising you to sell the house ASAP so you get the bulk of equity. Which makes sense. Bigger house bigger bills to pay as he won’t be expected to pay it all. I was/am in a similar position.

Carlottacoffee · 25/06/2020 12:45

@Whatonearth2020

Sorry I didn’t make it clear re house - I meant sell it. If we sell now I can expect large proportion of equity (albeit not enough to buy another in this area). If I wait then I get less - I believe it’s called ‘Mesher trap’

I have just read the script - OMG - it’s exactly correct - even down to the gardening! Is this a well know thing then??? Sorry to be so naive!

Sorry I missed this. I’m in your position, although your children are young they are older than mine - 3 & 7. They are doing ok.

You need to toughen up, I know your heads in bits but you’ve got to get your act together and think about what’s going to happen in the future. I’ve had that ‘fuck what am I going to do now for money’ feeling, bit I’m now preparing to start my own business in September. Our two kids go to private school so going off dh wage he can’t pay for that and CS and support his own life. So I’ve got to pull my finger out.

It’s shit but get back on your feet. That independence will give you back strength Flowers

hellsbellsmelons · 25/06/2020 12:46

Yes it's very well known on here.
We see it play out over and over again.
They are all the bloody same.
None are original.
They all follow this bullshit.
And so many of us have experienced it first hand.
Not me mind you - my ExH never blamed me. He took full responsibility.
Could never explain why he had done it as he had it so good with me.
Then he fucked off to another country and lived off grid and I had to raise our DD alone with no financial help from him at all!
They all fuck up majorly in some way or another!

FinallyHere · 25/06/2020 14:31

I am sorry you are being put through this and hope that finding out about 'The Script' whole it must be hard to face up to, provides some consolation and guidance. You are not alone and in time will be so.much.better without him.

VivaVegas · 25/06/2020 17:00

Feel for you, been there just over 2 years ago after 18 years of marriage.
He followed the script to the letter, messed with my head, it made me lose lots of weight and I struggled to cope, I was broken hearted, he didn't care.
My main regret is I let him do this to me and I carried on fighting for our marriage, one he had no intent of staying in. But again, he let me, he was happy having 2 woman want him.
He too wanted us to tell our DC it was a joint decision, by that point I had wised up a little and refused and said he had to take responsibility. Took him 3 months before he could man up and do that, such a coward.
2 years on, divorce now going through.
I hate him with a passion, I hate her for her part in this (a younger, more junior colleague- no shock there!).
It's bloody awful, they are such cliches it's unbelievable 💐

Whatonearth2020 · 25/06/2020 20:15

@VivaVegas it’s unbelievable isn’t it. How old were your DC when it happened and how are they coping now. I really sympathise Flowers

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Whatonearth2020 · 25/06/2020 20:16

@Carlottacoffee I’m so impressed that you are starting your own business. I really want to do that when I get more financially secure. I wish you every success with it

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Whatonearth2020 · 25/06/2020 20:19

@FinallyHere the script was an eye opener - I was taking everything he said literally and it was destroying me ( I suffer from anxiety anyway). Knowing that this is a cliche is strangely comforting - makes me think it’s not necessarily all my fault

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FinallyHere · 25/06/2020 21:13

@Whatonearth. Glad to hear it 😀

It may feel dark at the moment, but this is a turning point for you. Life will be getting better, on the whole, from now all.

VivaVegas · 25/06/2020 21:39

@Whatonearth2020
They were 11, they have their ups and downs. Unfortunately he moved OW in with him and now they don't like going to their dads as they know she will be there and that he left me for her. She starting buying them stuff, it doesn't work, they say she's weird.
I hate that she gets to spend time with my DC when I can't but that's a while different issue for me.
I'm
Not over it yet but we were together 25 years and then treated like dirt when she came along.
And don't beat yourself up I believed him at first, I let him get away with too much and should have kicked him to the kerb earlier for my well being.
Hopefully you have people you can talk to? Talking helps, as does wine and gin!

Whatonearth2020 · 25/06/2020 23:00

@VivaVegas oh I’m very familiar with the gin and wine! I have to admit my big fear is that OW materialises and the kids have to spend time with her. His best friend (and best man) left his wife and 2 DC for a 27 yr old with a puppy and a tendency to give them sweets and now they adore her. That would really destroy me.

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PornStarHotChocolate · 26/06/2020 07:19

Ha! She sounds like the child catcher! "Lollipops, oh lollipops"

Whoever they love, they'll love you more!

BraveGoldie · 26/06/2020 07:46

OP, I am so sorry for what you are going through. It is so unjust but yes unfortunately very common.

I went through very similar.

In terms of telling the kids it really does help them not to be asked to take sides, however it is also important that they can trust what you say. One thing kids often worry about is that it's there fault and being too mysterious about the cause can make that worse.

To me, that means telling them a version of the truth that does not cast one person as the devil/ the other as the victim, but that also reflects somewhat what has happened.

Eg: in terms of whose decision it is, I would hope that you would not want someone who treats you this badly or really doesn't want to be here, so hopefully you do both agree somewhat that the marriage is ending. That is different To saying it is both of your fault.

My dd was a bit younger, but We agreed something like this:

Daddy has realized that he isn't in love with mummy any more. A marriage really can't be happy if that's true. It becomes unhappy for both people. We have known this for a while and we haven't managed to find a way to be happy. We are sure this is not going to change. This means that we are separating. Sometimes that romantic, being in love feeling changes between adult couples. It is totally different from the love parents have for their children and the love we have for you. We both love you completely and forever and nothing about daddy and I separating changes that.

Hope this is helpful.....

PAND0RA · 26/06/2020 09:00

@Carlottacoffee

Whatonearth2020

Rip the plaster off and tell the kids ASAP so he can go instead of torturing you about it. The children will look towards you for guidance so you have to put a brave face on.

There are books you can download on how to tell your children you are separating so it’s done in a way that’s not going to scare them.

OP get angry. Good riddance to the twat. You deserve better. I’m just starting a fresh now at 41 with two kids under eight. If it’s done on the right way it doesn’t have to be catastrophic. Flowers

This is excellent advice .
Mrscaindingle · 26/06/2020 09:35

I too am another survivor, got the script after 19 years and 2 DC then aged 12 and 9.
Apparently he had been unhappy for 10 years 🙄 I threw away a lot of photos as I couldn't bear to look at them including my wedding album which I regret slightly now.

Your anger will hopefully come especially when he starts trying to call all the shots and being an arse about money.

I second not telling the children it was a joint decision, let him tell them and do it as soon as possible.

Keep posting here, MN kept me sane especially at 3 in the morning when everything felt so much worse. Try and take some of the advice, my main regret looking back is that I didn't take control of the situation sooner. I had not fully appreciated how much farther ahead of me he was and that from now on he would only be putting himself first.

VivaVegas · 26/06/2020 11:51

It's weird isn't it, my stbeh claimed he'd been unhappy for years, funny how he never mentioned it to me or any of his close family 🤥 .
I bought the book The Runaway Husband which is around men who do this out of the blue and what is typically behind this, definitely worth a read as this explains its about their needs and nothing to do with what you did or didn't do. I need to read it again as my thoughts have started to drift!

Lozzerbmc · 26/06/2020 13:36

How are you doing today OP? Flowers

choli · 26/06/2020 14:48

I hate that she gets to spend time with my DC when I can't but that's a while different issue for me.
If it's any consolation I doubt she actually wants to spend time with your kids.

MikeUniformMike · 26/06/2020 15:19

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1634754-Men-affairs-what-is-the-script

Thinking of you OP.
Hugs.
MUM

VivaVegas · 26/06/2020 15:48

'I hate that she gets to spend time with my DC when I can't but that's a while different issue for me.
If it's any consolation I doubt she actually wants to spend time with your kids.'

I hope not, I hope it's not the romantic idyll she hoped it would be. Particularly as she's never wanted children of her own. Still hate that my children have to be in her company while I'm home alone though.

SusieOwl4 · 26/06/2020 16:00

I just wanted to say that his “story “ of not being happy and not wanting children is the classic script as posted by others , but also think of this , IF it was true what kind of wet rag , weak , compliant person would that make him? A right walkover pathetic human being .

And I bet he isn’t is he?

I would be very angry if I was you . Not sad.