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Partner wants to stay together but move out

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NoPinkPlease · 20/06/2020 16:30

I feel so at sea. This could be long...

My partner of 4.5 years is struggling with family life - I have two kids from a previous relationship, 9 and 12. 12 year old has autism - Aspergers type - makes me hard to handle sometimes but it's not life changing. The kids go to their dad's for half the weekend and one night in the week so we get some time together just us.

My partner has a history of depression and he came to live with me 2.5 years ago when in the depths of a bad bout. Over those 2.5 years we've worked so hard together to get him a driving licence, business up and running, his finances back on an even keel and his mental health stable. We've had some really fun and lovely times in the midst of some tough times.

Fast forward to now, his business has really taken off and he's 2 months into his business doing well enough to contribute to the household. He's finding it hard working full time and coming back to a full on house - kids obviously need a lot of my time. At night I tend to flop on the sofa about 9 and he'll already be there. He expects me to be chatty and for us to connect. He will have been working then have stopped and done nothing house wise (2 nights a week wash up maybe).

We've not been getting on that well. He feels distant to me when I feel I've been the same and he's withdrawn.

He often says he "accidentally" moved in when he wasn't well and didn't intend it to be permanent! In the meantime he fell out with his mum who owned the house he was living in and she sold the house.

He says he wants to live independently and experience that for the first time - living alone on his own earnings and paying his way is something he's never had to do (lucky him huh?!).

He wants to stay together but not have family life responsibilities it seems to me. I feel I come as a package now - the kids consider him a stepdad (12 year old especially). I am angry for them as well that he's suggesting withdrawing from their lives.

Aside from all this, he occasionally says he wants kids, I don't. I'm nearly 42, he's 39. His depression and up and down nature has put me off having kids with him - it would be too much for me to cope with, alongside all the other stuff I have to do - full time senior job.

We had planned a life together - moving in a few years to a joint home, combining incomes to do fun things! We couldn't possibly afford to do that if we were maintaining two households.

I feel like as a relationship we would have made it through - the little issues we have could be worked through. But the moving out stuff has made me question all that future and planning.

I can't deny I also feel a total idiot - I've invested in him / our future. He suddenly has his own money and off he wants to go...

Any advice?

OP posts:
SandyY2K · 21/06/2020 20:32

Him coming to live with you when he was in middle of a bout of depression was unwise. It can't have been easy for you or your DC.

I actually don't think he's wrong for wanting to live independently either. If he wants kids and you don't, you shouldn't be in the relationship hoping it's going to last. Him wanting kids is a fundamental issue that can't be ignored.

Him coming to his realisation when he's out of his depression is a good thing IMO.

Better now than later. Just because your kids like him, is not reason he should continue living with you, if he struggles with family life.

In the long run that wouldn't be good for your DC.

crispysausagerolls · 21/06/2020 21:05

He sounds like a selfish prick and I wouldn’t want to take a backwards step in my relationship/think it’s fairly thoughtless of him re your children BUT

All the comments about charging him or presenting a bill are ridiculous. That’s not how relationships work. You don’t just add up a total cost and present it. You pay for what you’re happy to pay for, in the knowledge it might not work out. It’s very childish to start demanding money which he has 0 obligation to give to you (and therefore won’t). It looks petty. And stupid.

SandyY2K · 21/06/2020 21:14

You pay for what you’re happy to pay for, in the knowledge it might not work out. It’s very childish to start demanding money which he has 0 obligation to give to you (and therefore won’t). It looks petty. And stupid.

I agree with this completely.

Women also live with men and don't contribute...imagine him presenting a bill when they split up.

Absolutely ridiculous.

NoMoreDickheads · 21/06/2020 22:30

I think the presenting with a bill is more of a rhetorical statement when dumping rather than most people genuinely thinking he will act on it. If he was that outstandingly decent a bloke he wouldn't be expecting this 'relationship' he's now suggesting.

CiCiFreakingBabcock · 22/06/2020 02:03

@wantmorenow

Maybe try it his way for a while. Go to his when you are child free and let him provide meals and hospitality. Have the nice bits without the drudge of doing his wife work.

Worth a go shirt term then re-evaluate.

@NoPinkPlease - I'm all for giving this a go.
nettie434 · 22/06/2020 03:33

If his business is only two months into his being able to contribute to the household, then surely he can't have earned enough to get a deposit to rent a flat and buy any household essentials? Do you think his mother has promised him some help?

I think you are in a really difficult position. It must feel like a betrayal of all you did to help him with his depression and to get him started in his business. At the same time, neither of you is happy. Realistically, I think there is a risk his depression could reoccur if he is on his own and living without your support. That's not a reason to stay with him, more a suggestion that if things are over, then you may find things become easier for you without him.

Hanab · 22/06/2020 06:05

What a prick! He should pay you back for all that you did now that his business is flourishing

AlwaysCheddar · 22/06/2020 06:14

Go food shopping with him. Make sure he’s got his bank cards, buy tons of stuff then say you forgot your purse and make him pay. Then kick the user out.

Murmurur · 22/06/2020 10:08

Actually yes, @wantmorenow 's suggestion is worth a go.

However I don't think you should be subsidising his flat deposit, moving costs, etc. There is no point him trying to set up independently if that means you are paying for, or even contributing, to it.

I would love to know what this business is, that's been so successful so quickly in lockdown. Largely curiosity if I'm honest, but partly it is very much relevant how reliable, variable or seasonal that income will be. If he can't pay his bills, you know who he'll call right?!

wantmorenow · 22/06/2020 11:51

Murmurur

Agrre, do not contribute to him moving out - that way lies madness. I would however encourage him to move out asap and keep relationship going. Blended families or even one family is hard and not for everyone. I love my partner 100% and see us being a couple forever. I however do not wish to blend my family and can see how difficult staying more than a few days is for him with me and my kids. often I don't find it easy and they are my kids lol.

Living for the mostly apart means i am not put in the position of having to prioritise DP over kids, they can relax, our home routines fit us not him and they don't feel marginalised. In your case, it will also be cheaper not to subsidise him. Win Win.

Living apart allows us to have the best bits and doesn't mean you are not a team or there for each other when it counts.

ittakes2 · 22/06/2020 12:02

I am sorry but it sounds like you have helped him get on his feet and now he is feeling good about himself he wants his freedom. That sucks for you but unfort that is not going to change so for your own sake you need to move on.

billy1966 · 22/06/2020 12:07

Wow OP!

His own mother sold her house so that he wouldn't come back!!!

She clearly had the measure of him.

Fundamentally, he's a user.

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DrinkFeckArseGirls · 22/06/2020 16:19

Hmmm, maybe he met someone and is planning on moving there.

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