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No idea what to make of it all - younger man

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Bigfingers · 18/06/2020 21:21

Not posted for years, TIA for any kind advice.

I’ve been separated for 18m, and had been dabbling with online dating from Sept ‘19 onwards, not had much luck at all and a couple of rubbish experiences which made me very wary and pretty much gave up by Jan, but went back on a few weeks ago as lockdown was easing just for some conversation, was v lonely. Which almost certainly has a bearing.

I don’t want a younger guy. I’m not sure how this guy came up, I didn’t realise my age parameters were set so low, he superliked me, looked older, has a really interesting job and I had no expectations, so I swiped right.

We hit it off on text immediately. We had a virtual date two days later which was a bewilderingly good hour, and after the initial nerves there was a weird moment where I kind of saw his demeanour shift, like he just went sappy, and I felt it too. Somehow through a phone screen we ended up kind of looking into each others’ eyes as though we were going to kiss. He texted straight after to say that he felt that.

I realise how teenage I’m sounding. I’m 42 and have a serious job. He’s 10 years younger. I seriously considered not meeting up for that reason but decided I should, as no one is ever as good IRL, so at least I’d know and could forget it.

We met up two days after that for an evening walk and sit in a park, we didn’t manage to maintain social distance for long. Don’t judge me.
Lots of kissing. Lots.

He texted me afterwards to say he thought I was amazing, he felt like it was kind of perfect, he kept telling me how amazing I was. I should also say this guy is absolutely not a player type. He’s a bit socially awkward, was obviously very nervous, but something clicked.

We met up again 5 days later, because the world is so weird we decided to have a dinner date at my house, he cooked. It was kind of perfect, I felt so comfortable and trusting, one thing lead to another.

It’s hard to describe how intense the night was, not just physically, but emotionally. It was so warm, I felt so safe, I’m not sure I’ve ever felt like that. I’m usually a good judge of character, my gut told me he wasn’t acting, however he was very capable in bed.

Since then, 11 days ago, his texting has dropped off a lot in affection and frequency, I felt anxious and confused, and ended up texting after 6 days nicely to say bye, I felt he had lost interest.

He reacted surprised and confused, didn’t want me to go, apologised and said he had loads going on, assured me he was not playing games.

He made a bit more effort for a couple of days, but then last few days back it’s back to very sporadic, and I was mentally giving up and moving on, I moved to brief but friendly texts.

Then I got a message yesterday to say he had been dealing with his brother going off the rails, their mum died unexpectedly suddenly a few months ago and his brother is not dealing, and threatening suicide. I was just about to meet a friend when he texted and couldn’t talk, and said I would message when I got home, it was about 10:45pm, about 3.5h after he texted, but he said it was too late and he was going to bed, he seemed possibly a bit angry. I feel a bit bad about that, but I couldn’t talk then, and now he doesn’t want to talk anymore, and I’m left wondering what it all means, and what I do/say. I’ve simply said I’m here if he wants to talk, but he hasn’t replied and there’s a niggling doubt that somehow I’m being used and I don’t know if that’s rational or just based on the fact that in my heart of hearts I don’t believe a 32yo will want a 42yo single mum of three, no matter how smart, good looking and funny (which I sort of am). Sorry this is so long, any advice gratefully received.

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TwentyViginti · 18/06/2020 21:33

WAAAY too much drama here. You had fun, now move on before you get hurt.

StrangeTimes · 18/06/2020 21:35

Yeah I agree. Too much drama. It sounded fun and exciting to start with, now that has gone. Move on. Enjoy what it was.

Relationships shouldn't be such hard work.

Crystalspider · 18/06/2020 21:35

Since then, 11 days ago, his texting has dropped off a lot in affection and frequency Seems like he just wants a physical only relationship, when it thought he'd lose you, he'll try and keep you at arms length until it wants to sleep with you.

In my experience if it seems hot and cold then they aren't fully committing themselves and you deserve more than that.

The last paragraph, I wouldn't feel obliged to stay with him for these reasons however sob story, you don't know him that well and more importantly if you don't feel like your being treated well by him then don't feel bad to bin him.

321youreback · 18/06/2020 21:39

Omg. Sounds exactly like what happens to my BFF. Could be the same man. He got what he wanted and dropped her with same bs story too. Forget and move on.

IWillNotNameTheTree · 18/06/2020 21:39

Be very careful here OP.

He hooked you with the love bombing, then pulled back leaving you anxious and unsure where you stood and then came with a sob story when he felt you pulling away. There is no reason he couldn’t have text you to say he was dealing with some personal issues and he wouldn’t be in contact as much for a few days, but he left you wondering.

So much drama already and more than one red flag waving. Let this one go, you’re going to get hurt.

Bigfingers · 18/06/2020 21:40

Thank you all for reading so far, sorry it’s so long. I guess I know that, there’s just this bit of me that doesn’t want to believe it wasn’t real :(

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FaceOfASpink · 18/06/2020 21:42

I've heard there's a 'thing' in OLD around younger blokes going after older women as part of a tick list thing. I thought the age difference would be bigger though.
I've had likes from a air few 20 somethings. I'm 55 with my age filter set from 50 to 60. I ignore them.
Could that be what's happening here?

TwentyViginti · 18/06/2020 21:43

It isn't real. You'll get badly burned if you continue this.

Bigfingers · 18/06/2020 21:46

I should also say his story is definitely real about his mum dying

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Bunnymumy · 18/06/2020 21:56

Sorry but, he is a fake ass love bomber. People telling you you are amazing and everything is perfect and bka blah when you've just spoken to them once - is creepy.

That and the intense staring. Its narcissist territory. We often mistake it for a crush, it is actually a predator licking its lips, looking at its prey.

Then he started playing you with the hot and cold act. And some dramatic story.

He is not good news op.

Crystalspider · 18/06/2020 22:08

How do you know it's a real story though? seems almost like it's dropped it on you to make you feel guilty about dumping him.

Bigfingers · 18/06/2020 22:17

Yes that is my suspicion too, but I know his mum died, it’s on his FB from January and hundreds of people sent condolences. His younger brother does look a bit ‘wayward’ iykwim. He works with children. I’ve seen educational vids he’s made. He’s about as far from ‘player’ as I judge it gets. But it seems suspect. No idea.

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Bigfingers · 18/06/2020 22:20

Oh can I also say I drive him back to his after the night at mine as I was going that way anyway, and he kept holding my hand and looking at me and this was after. I feel like why would someone do that who’d already got what they wanted? I’m so bewildered

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PicsInRed · 18/06/2020 22:20

@Bunnymumy

Sorry but, he is a fake ass love bomber. People telling you you are amazing and everything is perfect and bka blah when you've just spoken to them once - is creepy.

That and the intense staring. Its narcissist territory. We often mistake it for a crush, it is actually a predator licking its lips, looking at its prey.

Then he started playing you with the hot and cold act. And some dramatic story.

He is not good news op.

This.
Bigfingers · 18/06/2020 22:25

Ok it’s pretty unanimous. Thanks all. Lesson learned x

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TooTrueToBeGood · 18/06/2020 22:25

Players never seem like players, that's kind of critical to their strategy. Sorry, but if he was as besotted with you as he claimed he was before he got you into bed he would not suddenly go half-dark on you, even if he had stuff going on in real life. He love bombed you, got what he wanted and has now lost interest.

Bmidreams · 18/06/2020 22:31

When I used to date, I chose a couple of men who weren't my type. They weren't the best looking and were geeky types, but i thought I'd try something different. Well they treated me worse than anyone! Their egos were huge, and they actually considered themselves real ladies men. I'm not being mean but they weren't. Don't be fooled.

DeeCeeCherry · 18/06/2020 22:35

They only tell you the super-embellished dramatic story
excuse after they've slept with you, and want to keep you at arm's length so they can pick you up and drop you at will, with the family drama excuse already in place to explain absence from your life. Even if his story is true - So? Still the same outcome.

Nobodysdiary · 18/06/2020 22:35

Why didn’t he tell you his sob story before he shagged you?

litterbird · 18/06/2020 22:41

Ah sorry OP, you've been played and he seemed so genuine at first. Lesson learnt. Never stick around a bloke who love bombs at the beginning as this is what happens in the end. Hot and cold, you feeling anxious and all that rubbish stuff. I went through several of those types of men on OLD, I can spot one a mile off now!

Bigfingers · 18/06/2020 22:55

@Nobodysdiary

Why didn’t he tell you his sob story before he shagged you?
He did tell me his mum had died.

I think you’re almost certainly all right, though, I just find it hard to believe anyone could use their mum’s death as a tactic

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Bigfingers · 18/06/2020 23:02

@DeeCeeCherry

They only tell you the super-embellished dramatic story excuse after they've slept with you, and want to keep you at arm's length so they can pick you up and drop you at will, with the family drama excuse already in place to explain absence from your life. Even if his story is true - So? Still the same outcome.
Agree on the last line - this isn’t what I want, I already had serious doubts about the age gap. Just not sure how to close it off now without seeming like I’m callous!
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Krazynights34 · 18/06/2020 23:06

Seriously OP... some people will use anything to have their way. Anything.
He didn’t come across as a player but that depends on what you think a player is (they aren’t all loud/brash etc).
Please take heed of what the others on here have said. It’s a technique he’s used and it has probably been used on many others.

Crystalspider · 18/06/2020 23:06

I don't think it's necessarily an age thing, he's an adult in his 30's and has probably treated many women like this. Never mind op, it's happened to many of us, live and learn, you know from your gut feeling when their behaviour is hot/cold it's more hassle than it's worth.

TwentyViginti · 18/06/2020 23:07

Oh they'll use anything. A bit like those men who swear on their children's lives they're NOT cheating, even when faced with irrefutable proof that they are.