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No idea what to make of it all - younger man

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Bigfingers · 18/06/2020 21:21

Not posted for years, TIA for any kind advice.

I’ve been separated for 18m, and had been dabbling with online dating from Sept ‘19 onwards, not had much luck at all and a couple of rubbish experiences which made me very wary and pretty much gave up by Jan, but went back on a few weeks ago as lockdown was easing just for some conversation, was v lonely. Which almost certainly has a bearing.

I don’t want a younger guy. I’m not sure how this guy came up, I didn’t realise my age parameters were set so low, he superliked me, looked older, has a really interesting job and I had no expectations, so I swiped right.

We hit it off on text immediately. We had a virtual date two days later which was a bewilderingly good hour, and after the initial nerves there was a weird moment where I kind of saw his demeanour shift, like he just went sappy, and I felt it too. Somehow through a phone screen we ended up kind of looking into each others’ eyes as though we were going to kiss. He texted straight after to say that he felt that.

I realise how teenage I’m sounding. I’m 42 and have a serious job. He’s 10 years younger. I seriously considered not meeting up for that reason but decided I should, as no one is ever as good IRL, so at least I’d know and could forget it.

We met up two days after that for an evening walk and sit in a park, we didn’t manage to maintain social distance for long. Don’t judge me.
Lots of kissing. Lots.

He texted me afterwards to say he thought I was amazing, he felt like it was kind of perfect, he kept telling me how amazing I was. I should also say this guy is absolutely not a player type. He’s a bit socially awkward, was obviously very nervous, but something clicked.

We met up again 5 days later, because the world is so weird we decided to have a dinner date at my house, he cooked. It was kind of perfect, I felt so comfortable and trusting, one thing lead to another.

It’s hard to describe how intense the night was, not just physically, but emotionally. It was so warm, I felt so safe, I’m not sure I’ve ever felt like that. I’m usually a good judge of character, my gut told me he wasn’t acting, however he was very capable in bed.

Since then, 11 days ago, his texting has dropped off a lot in affection and frequency, I felt anxious and confused, and ended up texting after 6 days nicely to say bye, I felt he had lost interest.

He reacted surprised and confused, didn’t want me to go, apologised and said he had loads going on, assured me he was not playing games.

He made a bit more effort for a couple of days, but then last few days back it’s back to very sporadic, and I was mentally giving up and moving on, I moved to brief but friendly texts.

Then I got a message yesterday to say he had been dealing with his brother going off the rails, their mum died unexpectedly suddenly a few months ago and his brother is not dealing, and threatening suicide. I was just about to meet a friend when he texted and couldn’t talk, and said I would message when I got home, it was about 10:45pm, about 3.5h after he texted, but he said it was too late and he was going to bed, he seemed possibly a bit angry. I feel a bit bad about that, but I couldn’t talk then, and now he doesn’t want to talk anymore, and I’m left wondering what it all means, and what I do/say. I’ve simply said I’m here if he wants to talk, but he hasn’t replied and there’s a niggling doubt that somehow I’m being used and I don’t know if that’s rational or just based on the fact that in my heart of hearts I don’t believe a 32yo will want a 42yo single mum of three, no matter how smart, good looking and funny (which I sort of am). Sorry this is so long, any advice gratefully received.

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Krazynights34 · 18/06/2020 23:07

And just put it behind you (hard as that might be). You don’t owe him an ending.
Or a relationship

Bunnymumy · 18/06/2020 23:09

The thing is though narcissists and the like don't just want sex. They are worse than that. They want to take everything from you. To take you on an emotional rollercoaster and leave you broken.

The intensity is a dead give away.

Run.

Be prepared for him to try wind you back in when he realises you struggling free of the hook.

Bunnymumy · 18/06/2020 23:12

You can just say you want to pursue someone closer to your own age and wish him all the best and then block him.

Crystalspider · 18/06/2020 23:17

@bunnymumy quite true

and I find it's like they want to inflate their ego's by getting women to fall in love with them, they like having that power then when they get bored you start to noticed the lack of attention but they make it out to be in your head leaving you all confused.

JacobReesMogadishu · 18/06/2020 23:20

Love bombing
Game playing....blowing hot and cold
Being cross with you for not dropping everything for him.

And this is a bloke you’ve seen twice in real life?

Jesus, run for the hills. Bloke sounds a total player. I know you said he isn’t but his actions say otherwise.

Onemansoapopera · 18/06/2020 23:20

I think you should give the guy a chance. I really cannot for the life of me get my head round my posters seem constantly determined that things should end before they begin. They are not in your shoes, they don't know the guy or his brother. The age thing is irrelevant , if you like him truly you should give him the benefit of the doubt (once) and see what happens next. The poor guy must be having a hard time. My dad died in April from Covid, a week later my sister was diagnosed with breast cancer. It's not a sob story it's fact. Funnily enough I've not felt that sexy or flirtatious for a few months but I'm married and husband has been ace. This guy is dealing with parental death and sibling upset and also by the looks of it trying to meet someone too and in that order, cut him some slack if you like him? Mumsnet will talk you into throwing someone in the bin because they care about their family, go fucking figure 🤔

AramintaLee · 18/06/2020 23:21

I'm going to go against the grain here a bit. I'm dating a guy who is 9 years younger (I'm in my 30s and he's in his 20s) and it is possible to have a healthy, mature relationship with that age gap.

I think the issue here is perhaps it was just super intense and now you've done the deed, the intensity/passion has lessened a bit. This is a crazy time at the moment and I think people are dealing with it in different ways. It sounds like he's been through a hard time with his Mum passing and that must be especially difficult. Perhaps you provided him with some much needed comfort when he needed it, but I wouldn't necessarily write him off. I would probably keep my expectations lower to avoid disappointment, but if he likes you, he'll make an effort. I would leave him to it for the time being and let things run their course naturally.

MiddlesexGirl · 18/06/2020 23:25

Another one saying just dial it down a bit, lower your expectations and see how it plays out.

Onacleardayyoucansee · 18/06/2020 23:30

If you don't believe the women on here who are mentioning Narcissistic types, google it.
There are covert types, who are not glaringly obvious.

The hot and cold will make you insecure, im not sure they do it consciously but they set up a push pull dynamic that will make you ill.
This sounds like the start.
If you were a RL friend, id be saying run, before you get damaged.

Eckhart · 18/06/2020 23:30

The only mistake you're making is I don’t believe a 32yo will want a 42yo single mum of three, no matter how smart, good looking and funny (which I sort of am

This isn't about you and your qualities. He's a certain kind of 'pick 'em up and drop 'em' kind of guy. Don't take it personally. Don't put yourself down.

If you know (and you do know) that you're smart, good looking, and funny, then you can forget about this clown. Take him for what he is: a good night. Use him as the ego boost he was, and move on. You leave him behind. Not the other way round.

AnyFucker · 18/06/2020 23:36

You've been played

And for God's sake stop shagging blokes you've just met. Remember that little thing called a Pandemic ?

And please... Somehow through a phone screen we ended up kind of looking into each others’ eyes as though we were going to kiss Get a fucking grip of yourself

crimsonlake · 18/06/2020 23:40

Lick your wounds and move on.
Hard for a few days, put it down to experience and move on...
I bet he is not spending time thinking about your feelings now so do not waste yours on him.

Samtsirch · 18/06/2020 23:56

@AnyFucker
And for God’s sake stop telling people how to live their lives.

Regretsy · 18/06/2020 23:58

I was really rooting for you until the sob story at the end...been there, sorry OP. Back onto OLD for you.

CrazyToast · 19/06/2020 00:38

I dont think the age gap is relevant, you are both adults.

Sadly, from experience, I can say that men do this. No idea why. Why do they seem so into you one moment then drop it the next. Maybe once they are sure they have you, it is not a chase anymore? And if you question it, they deny it, but continue being that way, then try to turn it around on you if you question it....

One thing I have learned is that if a man is into you, he shows it and you can tell. He doesn't mess around or play games or seem disinterested. I'm not saying it can never be complicated. But if a guy likes you, he is there making sure he spends time with you.

You deserve better. It does hurt, though.

Something to watch out for---he may pop up again just to make sure he still has you hanging if he wants you. Beware of that. Honestly, I think some of these guys don't even realise that they are utter cliches of fuckboys.

DisobedientHamster · 19/06/2020 00:44

Low hanging fruit. Sorry but a lot of these younger guys on OLD see women in 40s+ as just that. Love bombing is really common.

Somethingkindaoooo · 19/06/2020 01:05

Red Flag 1) His mum just died, his brother not coping, but he's OLD? Is he looking for an emotional crutch?

Red Flag 2) He backs off, and is then ' confused' when you ask about it? That's a brilliant bit of PR-makes you look and feel needy so you accept more crap.

If he did think you were perfect, then surely he would have dropped a text to say he was caught up in family affairs, rather than letting you wonder.

Player

Haretodaygonetomorrow · 19/06/2020 01:18

Red flags all over the shop.

The intensity, ‘perfect’ - not healthy, not normal.

Now he’s got what he wanted he’s cooled off and stopped making an effort.

If a man is into you, you can’t keep him away. Honestly, you will be left in no doubt about his feelings towards you if he is genuinely interested.

Jump on the OLD thread.

Lynda07 · 19/06/2020 01:24

BigFingers, what would you really want from this relationship if it did continue? Would you be happy to just have some good times without any commitment? A lot of people think they can do that but end up falling in love and being hurt.
.......
Don't text him any more and when he phones you, just be friendly and take it from there but do keep your options open. There are plenty more fish in the sea.

I'm glad you had an intense, exciting time, that is something to remember but not to dwell on.

blueshoes · 19/06/2020 01:49

Don't trust a man with goo-goo eyes

PicsInRed · 19/06/2020 08:26

[quote Samtsirch]@AnyFucker
And for God’s sake stop telling people how to live their lives.[/quote]
A little timely advice can be useful. Blunt advice is sometimes the slap in the face a poster needs to "snap out of it". This woman is likely to be (probably financially as well as emotionally) picked clean if she doesn't.

Sponges love a financially sorted older women - they don't even need to be wealthy. Just employed and able to send money. As the OP says herself:

I'm 42 and have a serious job.

I bet he's softening her up for £use.

PicsInRed · 19/06/2020 08:26

@blueshoes

Don't trust a man with goo-goo eyes
In my experience, also top advice.
Blanca87 · 19/06/2020 08:52

@AnyFucker 😂😂😂 a woman after my own heart. I wholeheartedly agree with your advice, it's diamond! OP please take it on board it might save yourself grief in the long run.

ChristmasFluff · 19/06/2020 12:41

'Giving good date' is easy, which is why so many can do the 'goo-goo eyes' and seem genuine.

Giving someone time is much harder, which is why so many can't even be arsed to text.

My Mum had dementia, I was her carer, and my Dad was dying of cancer at the same time. I also had a job and a son to look after. I still found time to maintain text chat with my much younger fling. It's a few texts, not writing War and Peace.

Some people will excuse all sorts of shoddy behaviour under the pretext of 'giving people a chance'. They are the ones who get fleeced financially and emotionally. Don't be like them, OP.

Bigfingers · 19/06/2020 13:00

So much good advice and insight here, thanks everyone who responded kindly (could do without the judgemental and unkind presumptions though @AnyFucker, how do you know this isn’t the first person I’ve ‘shagged’ since my separation?) and I’m grateful for the alternate/optimistic perspective too from @Onemansoapopera @AramintaLee and @MiddlesexGirl - I’m glad it’s not 100% take that I’m completely naive idiot :)

I think I maybe fall in the middle of both camps. I don’t think he’s a complete bastard, but I do think there’s something not right here which is probably a combination of difficult life circumstances and not caring enough - and I could overthink the not caring enough, but ultimately, I don't think it was ever realistic with the age gap.

Thank you all so much for taking the time xx

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