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No idea what to make of it all - younger man

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Bigfingers · 18/06/2020 21:21

Not posted for years, TIA for any kind advice.

I’ve been separated for 18m, and had been dabbling with online dating from Sept ‘19 onwards, not had much luck at all and a couple of rubbish experiences which made me very wary and pretty much gave up by Jan, but went back on a few weeks ago as lockdown was easing just for some conversation, was v lonely. Which almost certainly has a bearing.

I don’t want a younger guy. I’m not sure how this guy came up, I didn’t realise my age parameters were set so low, he superliked me, looked older, has a really interesting job and I had no expectations, so I swiped right.

We hit it off on text immediately. We had a virtual date two days later which was a bewilderingly good hour, and after the initial nerves there was a weird moment where I kind of saw his demeanour shift, like he just went sappy, and I felt it too. Somehow through a phone screen we ended up kind of looking into each others’ eyes as though we were going to kiss. He texted straight after to say that he felt that.

I realise how teenage I’m sounding. I’m 42 and have a serious job. He’s 10 years younger. I seriously considered not meeting up for that reason but decided I should, as no one is ever as good IRL, so at least I’d know and could forget it.

We met up two days after that for an evening walk and sit in a park, we didn’t manage to maintain social distance for long. Don’t judge me.
Lots of kissing. Lots.

He texted me afterwards to say he thought I was amazing, he felt like it was kind of perfect, he kept telling me how amazing I was. I should also say this guy is absolutely not a player type. He’s a bit socially awkward, was obviously very nervous, but something clicked.

We met up again 5 days later, because the world is so weird we decided to have a dinner date at my house, he cooked. It was kind of perfect, I felt so comfortable and trusting, one thing lead to another.

It’s hard to describe how intense the night was, not just physically, but emotionally. It was so warm, I felt so safe, I’m not sure I’ve ever felt like that. I’m usually a good judge of character, my gut told me he wasn’t acting, however he was very capable in bed.

Since then, 11 days ago, his texting has dropped off a lot in affection and frequency, I felt anxious and confused, and ended up texting after 6 days nicely to say bye, I felt he had lost interest.

He reacted surprised and confused, didn’t want me to go, apologised and said he had loads going on, assured me he was not playing games.

He made a bit more effort for a couple of days, but then last few days back it’s back to very sporadic, and I was mentally giving up and moving on, I moved to brief but friendly texts.

Then I got a message yesterday to say he had been dealing with his brother going off the rails, their mum died unexpectedly suddenly a few months ago and his brother is not dealing, and threatening suicide. I was just about to meet a friend when he texted and couldn’t talk, and said I would message when I got home, it was about 10:45pm, about 3.5h after he texted, but he said it was too late and he was going to bed, he seemed possibly a bit angry. I feel a bit bad about that, but I couldn’t talk then, and now he doesn’t want to talk anymore, and I’m left wondering what it all means, and what I do/say. I’ve simply said I’m here if he wants to talk, but he hasn’t replied and there’s a niggling doubt that somehow I’m being used and I don’t know if that’s rational or just based on the fact that in my heart of hearts I don’t believe a 32yo will want a 42yo single mum of three, no matter how smart, good looking and funny (which I sort of am). Sorry this is so long, any advice gratefully received.

OP posts:
NoMoreDickheads · 19/06/2020 14:20

We met up two days after that for an evening walk and sit in a park, we didn’t manage to maintain social distance for long. Don’t judge me.

Of course I'm going to judge you. People are dying!

Onemansoapopera · 19/06/2020 14:22

If it helps the three most successful and genuinely happy relationships and marriages I know of are when the man in younger. 12 years in one case, 14 in another and 6 in mine 😊 I met my DH when I was. 43 and he 37. My friend - 37 him 24 (happily married 10 years later) and my other friend 57 and him 43 when they met. Still happy 5 years later. Don't for one minute let people tell you it's slmething a bit sinister or opportunistic. People are attracted to who they are attracted to and that's that. I wish you luck and if not with him them with someone else and I hope he's doing OK grieving his poor mum.

AnyFucker · 19/06/2020 14:25

It's not about the shagging per se. We are in the middle of a fucking epidemic or did you not care about that when you you fell into those "goo goo eyes" ? (love that phrase)

Bigfingers · 19/06/2020 14:37

@anyfucker I just think you can’t possibly know anyone’s personal circumstances and how safe they judge something to be without at least asking first. Why is it your first assumption that I’m ‘shagging around’? Why is it your assumption that I haven’t either done pre or post protective isolation? If you want to go around shelling out what I imagine you perceive as insightful ‘tell it like it is’ straight talk, at least find out what it is first, otherwise you’re just being unkind for the sake of it and helping no one.

OP posts:
BurtsBeesKnees · 19/06/2020 14:42

I think he's a player op

He dialled back the texts after you'd dtd

Used his mum and brother as an excuse

Upped it a bit to keep you interested

Backed off again (couldn't be arsed)

Got a shit lip on when you wouldn't talk to him straight away (had other plans and wouldn't cancel them to talk to him)

Nope, bin and move on

Amibannedorwhat · 19/06/2020 14:52

@ AnyFucker

Agreed, in bucketfuls.

AnyFucker · 19/06/2020 14:52

Could you explain all this "protective work" work you did before and after getting up close and personal with a stranger?

Because we could save poor ole Matt Hancock a job, cancel all the social distancing guidelines, bin track and trace and all just go back to normal.

Cheers

AnyFucker · 19/06/2020 14:56

Oh, and we wouldn't have had to trash our economy down into the worst depression since the 1930's over the last 3 months.

Share your wisdom, do

2bazookas · 19/06/2020 15:01

Would it please you if you and he were casual friends with occasional benefits?

If so, tell him you'd like to keep in touch sometimes and leave it at that.

borntohula · 19/06/2020 15:08

'We're in the middle of an epidemic...'

BINGO!

Sorry you got played OP. Chalk up to experience and move on!

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 19/06/2020 15:15

Even if the mum stuff is true, it’s way too early for you be his emotional support person, so absolutely right of you to be busy and unable to drop everything for him to dump his woes onto you.

Walk away. See other people. If it’s right you’ll find your way back to each other and he’ll realise you’re not there for his convenience.

DisobedientHamster · 19/06/2020 15:35

@AnyFucker

It's not about the shagging per se. We are in the middle of a fucking epidemic or did you not care about that when you you fell into those "goo goo eyes" ? (love that phrase)
Of course it's about shagging. Queens have gone to the block for a shag. It's utterly delusional to think people are going to forgo fucking for a pandemic, especially a virus that has, depending on their age, sex, overall health and weight, little likelihood of killing them and which they may already have had without even knowing it.

Sex and hookups has proceeded as it has since time immortal. You can't ban fucking.

DisobedientHamster · 19/06/2020 15:38

@NoMoreDickheads

We met up two days after that for an evening walk and sit in a park, we didn’t manage to maintain social distance for long. Don’t judge me.

Of course I'm going to judge you. People are dying!

Bingo!

LOL @ this idea that people have been sitting chastely at home for this.

No, I don't judge people for fucking. Personally think the whole trying to ban it was always ridiculous and bound to fail.

But the younger guy thing, personally, it most often works once you are both finished having children.

I'd tighten up your age boundaries and really stick to them. This one's a player.

Skyla2005 · 19/06/2020 15:52

His created this whole hoffific backdrop story so he can treat you badly/drop off the radar let you down and always have an excuse for it. I bet any money it’s not true. Block him before he gets a hold on you

stealm · 19/06/2020 17:34

I think he is a player.
Just leave it now.
The story about his brother may or may not be the whole truth but in any case he's either got far too much on his plate to be thinking about any kind of relationship or he's just messing you about and coming up with excuses.

I don't think that a 10 year age gap where the man is younger is necessarily a problem, but if it's hard work like this at the beginning then it has no hope. He probably wasn't looking for anything serious anyway.

Lampan · 19/06/2020 18:04

The early love bombing should have been a massive, waving red flag. Anyone who declares someone to be ‘amazing’ after ONE MEETING is at worst manipulative and controlling, and at best completely socially unaware and clingy. Just tell him you sense you both want different levels of involvement and move on. I agree with everyone saying it’s far too much drama. When things are right they should feel easy.

blue30 · 19/06/2020 18:35

@FaceOfASpink

I've heard there's a 'thing' in OLD around younger blokes going after older women as part of a tick list thing. I thought the age difference would be bigger though. I've had likes from a air few 20 somethings. I'm 55 with my age filter set from 50 to 60. I ignore them. Could that be what's happening here?
Ha, a million years ago when I was into that kind of thing there was no tick list, I just always had a thing for older women! When I was 32 I went out with a 53 year old for a few months, not ticking anything off she was just gorgeous and a nice person too Smile
DiddlySquatty · 19/06/2020 18:50

I’m no expert but I personally would not let it take away from the pleasurable experience you had at the time.

Maybe a player of sorts but maybe also just a sort of emotional type whose a bit up and down - you had something intense that burnt out quickly.
You’re not unreasonable in not liking the variability in contact so best to walk away and leave it now. But doesn’t mean you have to regret the whole thing. Sounds like you had a lovely night together.

TheBlueStocking · 19/06/2020 23:24

@AnyFucker you must be fun at parties. If anyone ever invites you.

OP, it's going to be difficult for any of us to say what his thoughts are on this. But there do seem to be some heavy extenuating circumstances. But also, perhaps circumstances that are going to continue to cause upset to you.

Browzingss · 19/06/2020 23:30

Disclosure- I’m in my early 20s & just basing my thoughts off of my male friends who are the same age.

They usually do this if they’ve lost interest eg the sex wasn’t good or he no longer finds you attractive. I think the sob stories be played later was because he wasn’t expecting you to drop him (he thought it would be the other way around) and he wants to keep you on the back burner until something better comes along, he doesn’t want you but simultaneously doesn’t want to let you go just yet as he doesn’t have a backup woman.

Honestly, I think if he wanted to continue things he would be raring to arrange round 2

Browzingss · 19/06/2020 23:36

Also from the sounds of things he was dealing with his mum’s death and brother’s high emotions for the entirety of the time you’ve known him. Yet his demeanour only changed after you slept together, so it doesn’t suggest that his family troubles are the reason he’s distant

Mermaidwaves · 19/06/2020 23:58

OP this sadly seems fairly common nowadays with dating, especially online. The guy chases you, full of compliments, frequent messages, making loads of effort. We think, this is great! Maybe this time I've met someone! They meet you, sleep with you, could be after one date, could be after 10. Then lo and behold the messages lessen and we start to feel anxious, you know something is up but dont want to admit it. This seems to apply to guys of all ages, plenty of older guys do it too. Its almost like a script. My advice would be to not get attached, I did and I'm suffering now, just walk away and if he likes you he will make sure he doesnt lose you.

incognitomum · 20/06/2020 00:27

Years ago when I was OLD this happened to me. He was in his 50s! I dumped him then he tried to contact me as obviously his ego wasn't being massaged. He was such a weird fuck up. They're so manipulative (or he thought he was) Came as a shock I saw through him.

Best of luck OP. Keep strong and hopefully he's got the message.

Lampan · 20/06/2020 08:22

Wise words @Browzingss !

jewel1968 · 20/06/2020 10:48

@anyfucker - perhaps she was just testing her eyesight. Sure I read something somewhere about different unusual ways to test one's eyesight.

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