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My MIL is competing with me?

105 replies

Transformer123 · 11/05/2020 11:48

I'm starting to wonder whether my MIL is competing with me. Would be good to hear from anyone who's experienced similar?

My MIL showed no interest in sewing. I bought some lovely fabric to make my baby daughter a blanket. When I showed her the fabric (we bought it whilst visiting her), she acted oddly - stared at it blankly and said nothing. Then, she booked herself onto a sewing class and made my daughter a set of clothes for her doll.

Next, I said that I wanted to become a Pilates instructor. Next thing I know, she attends Pilates three times a week and it has become her 'thing' - she talks about it all the time. Previously she attended no exercise classes. As it happens, I had an illness which meant I am limited physically, so I dropped that idea.

My illness means that Yoga is a better option. I mention to MIL that I am doing a bit of Yoga instead. She started doing Yoga too, and is now posting photos of herself on FB in Yoga poses....

Whilst it's great that she's achieving things, I just have a feeling that she wouldn't be doing it if I hadn't mentioned that I was! It's starting to feel like she's trying to compete, which I feel uneasy about.

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CatsMother66 · 11/05/2020 14:39

I have thought my MIL has copied my hair, although that could be just a coincidence. A few years ago she turned up on our door step and asked to see our bathroom. Thought nothing of it until months later when we were in her house when she said she’d had her bathroom done and we should see it. DH and I went in and our mouths fell to the floor. She had copied our bathroom, the tiles were exactly the same, including the insert strip of mosaic tiles!

Fatcatstaff · 11/05/2020 15:06

I agree with @Footywife. She feels left out so is trying to find some common ground with you. Is there any skill your MIL is good at that you would want her to show you how to do? If you have one hobby that you can share together then maybe she will focus on that and not copy other things you are interested in.

Geppili · 11/05/2020 15:32

Pole dancing

user1467480231 · 11/05/2020 16:34

I had this with both my ex MIL and my ex SIL. They were obsessed by looks and for 25 years I was given hell about my looks and had comments such as "oh dear... so what size are you now?".
Nevertheless, both copied clothes I wore, shoes I bought and attempted to copy things I had made (I'm very arty).
My ex MIL is now mid 70's and has had so much plastic surgery on her face, she looks like a character from a horror movie! I'm so glad to be away from the narrow mindedness of it all!

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 11/05/2020 16:41

What is it with certain women and of course some men, that they feel as if they’re ‘losing’ their adult child to a partner? It’s strikes me as a very unhealthy attitude. I love seeing my boys in relationships and hope that someday they will find ‘the one’. I can think if nothing nicer than them succeeding in life, and that includes in having a happy and healthy relationship. I always try to make their girlfriends feel welcome., but not in an over involved way.
What about trying a different approach, OP? You could tell her what you’re doing and tell her that you think she should do it too. as you’ve noticed you enjoy a lot of the same type of hobbies. Tell her all the things you enjoy about it and how much fun you think she’ll get from it. She’ll either be delighted that you can share something or pissed off that she has been ‘invited’ to do the same as you. Either response will be a result.

Coffeecak3 · 11/05/2020 17:17

@totallyfuckedupfamily absolutely. I love my ds to bits but I'm glad he lives with my dil. Grin

Wolfgirrl · 11/05/2020 17:29

Ooh that's weird! Pretty harmless though. I would be inclined to tell her I had taken up pole dancing or fishing and then break the news to her a few years later that you never did...

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 11/05/2020 17:32

absolutely. I love my ds to bits but I'm glad he lives with my dil. Grin

When I asked my boys if they wanted to come home to live during lockdown, the oldest said we would most likely kill each other before the virus, if we were in the sand house for weeks. GrinGrin And we actually love each other. Grin

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 11/05/2020 17:33

sand = same

Electrical · 11/05/2020 17:34

Lots of ‘blank looks’ happening, are her and her son a bit thick?
What do you get from her knowing the minutia of your days? Why not just not tell her anything and enjoy your life.

Ronnie27 · 11/05/2020 17:36

Maybe she just wants you to like her and is trying to awkwardly work it so you have things in common to talk about? It does sound annoying though. Grin

Electrical · 11/05/2020 17:44

Ronnie, if that were the case, the woman would go about it differently, obviously. She’d ask OP about the activity, want to go to the same class as her, want to discuss updates. The way the woman is competing with OP and tantrumming if she doesn’t need get told trivial day to day details is just creepy.

Ronnie27 · 11/05/2020 17:48

Some people just don’t have the social skills. She sounds as though she’s feeling left out to me so op could potentially turn things around but who knows. Folks are strange. Grin

everythingbackbutyou · 11/05/2020 18:15

Beekeeping! Learning Aramaic! Laser Tag! Ships In A Bottle!

everythingbackbutyou · 11/05/2020 18:16

Training to go on Mastermind with your specialist subject "The Works Of Weird Al Yankovic"

Sugartitss · 11/05/2020 19:16

i had a friend like this so played along and she now has a tattoo on each foot of her children’s names and i don’t Grin

EileenAlanna · 11/05/2020 20:21

Keep a box handy for when you go to visit & look out for road kill. Bring it in with you & enthuse about how lock down has awakened an interest in foraging for perfectly good free food in you & that you're taking up taxidermy as well, to make full use of all the bodies. Maybe even re-creating Biblical scenes in glass cases with them.....

EileenAlanna · 11/05/2020 20:29

and maybe you could ask her to sew costumes for them Grin

pinkyredrose · 12/05/2020 08:15

Have you ever asked her outright why she's doing the same things that you want to do despite having no previous interest?

pinkyredrose · 12/05/2020 08:16

@Sugartitss. Brilliant! Grin

TroysMammy · 12/05/2020 08:21

Tell her you are going to cover wine glasses and Cillit Bang in glitter and gems to sell on Facebook.

TorkTorkBam · 12/05/2020 10:38

Here's the psychology I see of it in my family.

My brother has no imagination, poor social skills and loves to pontificate. He cannot abide people that he deems peers or inferior to be better at things than him unless they are crazy better like a mate is a professional athlete and beats him in an informal race.

If I mention I have taken up the guitar and chatter about what I'm enjoying about it, he will think "oh what a brilliant idea. I'll try that." Then he will obsess over all things guitar for weeks. It is clear that he cannot bear for me to be better or know more. He sprints to be superior. Then he will call me to question my methods, goals, gear choices, all in a friendly chatty way but still. I realised in our thirties that it was continuous lording it over me, you know to help me to do better. Even before he gets better than me he will research methods of learning and call me to explain how I did it wrong. All in the kindest most supportive tone. That also brooks no dissent. All joy is sucked out of it for me.

DH noticed it before me, years ago in a random comment that shocked me after a visit, Looks like you can't have nice things for yourself Tork Why didn't you tell him to fuck off?

Well, I can't say "No brother, you may not learn guitar! I own it now." That's not how life works. I knew I would be unreasonable to tell him not to do it. So I thought the problem was in my own head.

He frames every conversation as friendly, helpful, wanting to be enjoying the same thing as me, you know bonding. So, of course I felt I was a cow to be annoyed at it. DH pointing out DB's obvious joy in lording over me, benevolently, helped me see why it pissed me off.

FFS he even started buying the same household appliances as me then told me either (a) they weren't as good as expected or (b) how to maintain them properly.

It's not just me. If his children join a club he becomes a leader (even taking classes to qualify). If they don't need a leader, he will take the adult classes. If they become good at say, line drawing, he will watch all the youtubes and practice obsessively until he is better and can teach them.

Everyone tells the kids how nice it is to have such involved parents. Kids have to smile and nod.

Anyway, it would seem petty and churlish to say anything to him so I don't.

I did have a joke about it with my other siblings and their partners. They were v helpful pointing out that DB does it worst with me and with his kids but others get it too. Siblings take the piss a LOT, also help me to steer conversations away from what could be spoiled, which makes it much more bearable.

Other brother even had a word about letting children have their own things, their own space away from parents and something they are expert at. He seemed to get it. He investigated lots of things about child development then helped us to know more so we can all do better Hmm. FFS. No point talking to some people.

Crack on DB, I'll be over here planning my foot tattoos.

LouHotel · 12/05/2020 10:52

My mother copies my eldest brother wife when it comes to decor, car choice and activities to get into. I guest the consolation is she does say she got the idea from DIL.

That brother is her favourite so I honestly think there is some Oedipus shit going on.

Once I bought some new light fixtures for the bedrooms that had multiple size bulbs hanging down, my mum saw them and said they were horrible. SIL saw them later, loved them and bought some for her dining room....I'll let you guess what happened next.

rosiepony · 13/05/2020 12:33

Yeah I have an Oedipus brother.

CaptainBrickbeard · 13/05/2020 13:00

I really recognise that Tork. I am not particularly competitive by nature and I hate it when I feel like I’m being dragged into competition with someone. I have a relative who can’t ever praise other people’s achievements, always has to claim expertise and rewrites history to make themselves the ‘winner’ in absolutely every situation. It can be very draining. I realised this person is never ever self deprecating and whilst obviously too much self deprecation is irritating, I find it odd when someone just cannot admit to knowing less or being less capable in any situation - or when they do, that particular skill or field of knowledge is dismissed as not being important or valuable in some way. I find it quite exhausting and whilst I love this person, I need regular breaks to stop the irritation building up!

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