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Are all men the same???

95 replies

Wellwellwell01 · 03/05/2020 22:53

Are all men like this? If so, how do you ladies handle it? I’m at the end of my tether and am feeling quite down and don’t really know what to do next.
My DP of two years has an attitude to women which he seems to think is perfectly normal but I find it really insensitive and more the actions of a single man.
On Instagram, he follows loads of those bikini models- you know the ones- boobs and bums. On Facebook, he’s got loads of likes pages and groups of the same things- women with their bums and boobs out, naked ones with a small item covering their bits, legs open with a little thong on pulled right into her vag. We’ve had countless “discussions” about these as these things make me feel worthless- he likes these pictures and has on a couple of occasions left comments. He’s deleted them telling me he’s sorry then they magically reappear. Last night, laying in bed, he was looking at his Facebook page and a photo of a woman in a tiny bikini, half her boobs hanging out popped up. When I asked what he was looking at, he said it was part of a tattoo group (she had a tiny tattoo). When I asked what group, he went to their page and it was all half naked women with tattoos. I got upset and he told me I’m controlling and that he should be able to look at what he wants because every man he knows watches porn and has that stuff on their phone and it’s healthy and normal to do so. He then said if we were out for dinner and an attractive woman walked in, he should be allowed to look at her as it’s normal to see beauty in people. We argued and have only just started talking because he told me that he loves me and that just because he’s looking at other women, it doesn’t mean he loves me any less or that he’s going to have an affair. I’m completely fed up and have come to bed alone.
He also had a few of his ex girlfriends on Facebook and Instagram. He was liking pictures of them in bikinis. He told me he only had one ex on there and at my request, he deleted her. He then let slip about this other ex. When I looked at her page, he’d liked loads of her photos since being with me.
On Facebook as well, I saw on his following list a very attractive young lady. When I looked at her page to see what she was famous for, it turns out that she’s a normal woman that was working somewhere he had been working for a couple of weeks. When I asked who she was, he said he’d never heard of her. When I asked why he was following her, he saidhe didn’t know who she was and that Facebook must have automatically followed her. He unfollowed her after a lot of innocence protesting.
Why do men do this? Does it mean he’s looking out for a bit of fun? It makes me feel really inadequate, he can’t fancy me that much if he’s looking at that lot. Why keep his exes on his friends lists?

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Jojobar · 03/05/2020 23:30

No, my Ex didn't do this.

However he did have plenty of other faults.

Unfortunately I think most men who are single past a certain age are flawed in some way or other. The good ones get married and stay that way.

sotiredwe · 03/05/2020 23:47

Dump him but first like & comment on sexy men with big dicks. Check out other men whilst you're out together, maybe even post some bikini shots of your own. Start to have sex, stop because you're just not feeling it (literally) then get your porn out whilst next to him. Yes, I'm a petty bitch.

DamnYankee · 03/05/2020 23:47

Mine isn't.
He does have a habit of mentioning actress Amy Adams (American Hustle, Enchanted, Julie and Julia), but I think it's mostly because he used to give her and her sister a ride to high school and she shed a few strands of her (beautiful)long hair in his car. Confused
Annoys me, but he put up with my midlife crisis obsession with Johnny Depp about 9 years ago - when was still with Ms. Paradis. (I expressed this by just quietly buying his movies on Amazon). Never said a word.
I think he was more concerned about the "mid-life crisis cat" I brought home one day...Grin

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Deadringer · 04/05/2020 01:49

He is a creep.

user3274826 · 04/05/2020 01:53

I only got 3/4 through your post. He's a massive, misogynistic bastard. Not all men are like that at all. He genuinely thinks they are though, so he definitely won't change. Leave him and have some self respect or put up with it.

RLEOM · 04/05/2020 02:05

What @Thekindyoufindinasecondhand said.

This is a mirror image to what I went through with my ex. Let me tell you now, it didn't end well. It turned out he was cheating on me at the start of the relationship and he also cheated on me towards the end, just after I'd had his baby.

All those red flags mean something. Porn is one thing, but this chasing behaviour is a sign he's got an unfaithful mind. I'd take those red flags and run with them.

RantyAnty · 04/05/2020 02:33

No, they don't all do that.

Dump, but give him a taste of his own medicine before you do.

managedmis · 04/05/2020 02:35

How do you have time for all this nonsense, just bin him

Jenasaurus · 04/05/2020 02:53

The fact it upsets you and he knows it upsets you but continues to do so is horrible. The woman from work he is following, is she also scantily dressed in the photos he has liked on FB?

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/05/2020 03:00

No.

Astoundingly some men like their partners and if they did have a laminated list, it would feature women they find attractive for things other than just tits and arse.

Yours appears to be a feckless, shallow, vapid moron. Which would mean a hasty retreat from me.

DeeCeeCherry · 04/05/2020 03:26

I don't understand why when she's with a pig of a man, a woman won't just ask for advice without implying all men are the same as the specimen she is with. When she already knows that no, men aren't all the same.

OP you've written a long post about a man it's clearly not worth having, a man that you keep on questioning when he is already openly disrespecting you. Why Why Why won't change anything - Raise your bar before he leaves you for the type of woman he really wants. If he can get one that is - he sounds like a creep and many women would be put off by that from the start.

Shoxfordian · 04/05/2020 07:52

Not all men are this disrespectful and sleazy

PixiKitKat · 04/05/2020 08:01

Not at all! Out of curiosity I checked what my partner follows on Instagram. It's family, friends, food and music with a few work related pages. Absolutely no bikini girls or any other girls actually that he would follow just to gawp at.
Your man sounds sleezy and gross, swap him for one who isn't.

amazonslime · 04/05/2020 08:03

He sounds like a complete loser that would chase these (young?) women in to his 50s/60s.

What does he do for a living? Does he have a passion or a hobby? Sounds like his interest in like is bikini clad women who seem to give him sexual gratification. Does he have some kind of emotional regulation issue?

I think you should call it a day. This man is only thinking about himself and he is keeping you on the side when things don't work out with other potential affair partners.

Hotwaterbottlelove · 04/05/2020 08:22

I think the advice to give him a taste of is own medicine is stupid and immature. Petty things like that have no place in a relationship, even a bad one.

OP just have a think about what you really want from life. Do you really want to be with a man who is that shallow and can't understand why you want some respect and understanding? Get rid of this person. They take more than they add to your life.

Relationships aren't meant to be hard. They are supposed to make your life better, not worse.

userabcname · 04/05/2020 08:27

Um, no, my dh doesn't do this. I mean, I'm sure he does enjoy looking at attractive women, but he doesn't publicly follow/like/comment on their photos and he certainly doesn't like or comment on ex's photos. He is 31 so is on social media. Actually have never had any boyfriend do this. I don't think it's normal. I think it's disrespectful and sleazy.

firstimemamma · 04/05/2020 08:28

No, not all men are like that! LTB, he sounds awful.

Futurenostalgia · 04/05/2020 08:32

No not all men do that. My exh never would have. It just wouldn’t have been on his radar.

Futurenostalgia · 04/05/2020 08:32

How old is he?

okiedokieme · 04/05/2020 08:52

No not all men are like this but alas many are. They don't see wants wrong with this sort of behaviour so reasoning doesn't work. You really only have two choices put up with it or call it quits - I did put up with it and don't recommend this option! There's good men out there!

LittleWing80 · 04/05/2020 08:55

He is a creep but mostly doesn’t sound like he is intrinsically monogamist. Let him have his healthy fun (if that’s What it is to him) and move on to someone better.

I wouldn’t say all men Are like that however there is more and more pressure on women to accept this is normal (and of course those men jump right in saying it is normal and healthy).

Under the excuse that men are ‘visual’ it makes it ok to look elsewhere.. porn, lap dance etc... look how many threads on here where women say their partner is using those and not interested in them. Why can’t they been visual with their partner? Has he asked you to wear something nice and commenting on how sexy you look? Probably not.... being visual is just an excuse to say one woman is not enough.

sotiredwe · 04/05/2020 09:15

Under the excuse that men are ‘visual’ it makes it ok to look elsewhere..

The whole men are visual, women aren't is BS imo. I certainly enjoy looking at an attractive man as do all of my friends.

opticaldelusion · 04/05/2020 09:21

Of course not all men are like this. You just hooked up with a sleaze.