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Threesome spoiling my marriage

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westendgirlx · 20/04/2020 00:18

Hi, I had to ask what people thought. This is so personal I'm embarrassed to ask a friend tbh.

My husband and I have a strong sexual relationship. I'm bisexual (he knew before we got married) but happy with him. He asked if we could have a FFM threesome and I decided to try. We found a woman on Tinder and we had sex a few times. She got too close, too demanding. She said that she had fallen in love with us both.I got out of the situation quickly and told her I didn't want anything to do with her again.

She got very upset and emotional. My husband felt sorry for her and agreed to be friends with her because he was worried about her mental state. They texted a lot. This upset me and I asked him to stop. He said that he would back in January and the texts petered out.

Well, since the lockdown she's been back in touch. There's lots we both agreed we don't like about her...she's a proven liar and a racist, for example. Yet, he carries on texting her.

I've asked him to stop because it's hurting me but he says I'm being over emotional because he doesn't intend ever seeing her again. We have had a row about her tonight and he's refusing to come to bed because I got angry and shouted at him. But, I don't seem to be able to keep my cool about this. I've said to him that if she's nothing to him that it should be easy to stop texting and just block her. I don't understand. He hates racism and lying so why does he need to bother with her?

OP posts:
EKGEMS · 20/04/2020 14:39

He encouraged you to take a walk so he could call his affair partner without you hearing

westendgirlx · 20/04/2020 15:14

Hi folks, thanks for all the advice. To answer some of your questions, well, this is the first time that I've ever done anything like this with a partner (I'm nearly 50) and I think that have been pretty naive in thinking this couldn't happen.

It's certainly been an eye opener. I never thought my husband would get obsessed with the 'bit of fun' person.

I found her...I had the Tinder account though it was explicitly for finding a casual sex partner for us both. I was upfront from the start.

I've learned a lot...it wasn't like how I imagined.

My husband told me this morning that he is stopping the texting and he showed me his phone...texts to her telling her to leave him alone...and nasty texts back from her. She is accusing him of using her.. what a nerve! On her Facebook account she's sharing with the world all the lovely gardening projects etc she is doing with her husband...the husband she told us was divorcing and couldn't bear to be with! She us such a liar.

Btw...my husband has been an athletic person all his life and does have a six pack. I'm a bit more cuddly and although I go walking I'm not as sporty. He's never quite understood that I have struggled just to keep slightly overweight all these years! He's very very strict with his diet in a way few of us can tolerate. So, that's probably why he has overlooked that woman's bad points...she's the same shape as him!

I will see how things go but I have made my boundaries clear today. And I won't ever allow a threesome again. It wasn't fun...it was a very unpleasant experience that has damaged my relationship

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MonkeyToesOfDoom · 20/04/2020 15:22

Some of the language you use OP is a concern.

All the focus seems to be about him and finding out let's for his sexual concerns and how he responds and what he says etc.
Then there's the way he talks about you. Happy with your looks but moans about your stomach.

Time to strip it all back.
Time to concern yourself with yourself. Really think about how happy you are in this relationship, truly.
For everything he says, is there a double edge? Is there low level manipulation? Is there 'I love you.. but..' or 'no one would love you like I do' etc.

Over the next month, count how.many days you spend unhappy or concerned about him and his emotions compared to how many you're happy and putting your emotions and needs first. Then really think to yourself if it's worth it.

BackseatCookers · 20/04/2020 15:29

Wow, all her fault then. She's a liar who is sending nasty responses. No accountability for the man involved, shocker.

Also you said this originally

He says lovely things about my looks but he frequently goes on about my stomach because it not flat.

And when people have said this is absolutely horrible and cruel to you, you've now said this:

Btw...my husband has been an athletic person all his life and does have a six pack. I'm a bit more cuddly and although I go walking I'm not as sporty. He's never quite understood that I have struggled just to keep slightly overweight all these years! He's very very strict with his diet in a way few of us can tolerate. So, that's probably why he has overlooked that woman's bad points...she's the same shape as him!

Seemingly totally excusing him 'frequently' making comments about your stomach not being flat. Do you really think that's ok?

Your last post is totally enabling his unreasonable, selfish and nasty behaviour.

I asked this in my first post and would be really interested to hear your answer as it very much seems like one rule for him:

Am I also right in thinking even though he's started an emotional relationship with the woman you had a threesome with and slept with her alone, he wouldn't want you to have an emotional relationship with a man and sleep with him alone? I assume so and if that's the case, have a think about what that means re him respecting your sexuality and your clear preference for monogamy.

It's really sad to see a woman blaming another woman who had a sexual experience with both of you for the issues it's caused in your marriage, calling her a liar and very obviously now backtracking and giving your husband a free pass.

Your husband didn't need to be texting her in private without you knowing, to the extent you told him it made you uncomfortable and upset. Then you told him and instead of taking your feelings on board he just told you he didn't think you should have a problem. He's now sent her a message to stop but only after you've been really upset and had to ask more than once. And now the two of you are slagging her off for updating her Facebook with lovey dovey pictures which is frankly none of your business. It's like a minor version of hysterical bonding.

Good luck, your husband doesn't sound capable of putting you first I'm afraid.

westendgirlx · 20/04/2020 15:37

I fear you could be right in many ways. My first marriage ended after years of me pushing down my true feelings to please my first husband. When we split up he made the divorce as horrible as possible and the man who later became my second husband ...the man I'm married to now....helped me through it. I wonder now if I did the right thing to marry him but I can't bear another divorce

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EL8888 · 20/04/2020 15:42

@GilbertMarkham all of this

OP your husband is taking the piss. Being negative about your body, valuing this random women’s feelings over yours, shagging her on the sly -you were not present or aware of it so it was surely?! You need to draw a line in the sand and stick to it so he’s clear this can’t continue

lialiana · 20/04/2020 15:47

@westendgirlx Dreading the idea of another divorce is not a reason to stay unhappy. You deserve happiness. Divorce sucks, but all the stress is temporary. Your DH could be forever. I think you need to find a way to believe in yourself and demand he learns to treat you as you with love and respect, and make you feel gorgeous and desired whatever the hell your shape is. If he's worth it, he'll listen to you and do what it takes to work on this with you.

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 20/04/2020 15:48

When we split up he made the divorce as horrible as possible and the man who later became my second husband ...the man I'm married to now....helped me through it.

Hmm...
If you were going through a divorce, you were at your lowest ebb, your weakest point. Did this current man offer a "friendly" shoulder and say things like,
"I'll look after you. How could your ex treat your that way? I'd never treat you that way. He must be mad to let you go"

Not saying current man did so, but, some men use emotional turmoil in others to their advantage, to get a foot in the door as it were.
Something to think about perhaps?

GilbertMarkham · 20/04/2020 16:13

So he has a six pack - but he got together with you and married you without you being a gym bunny, flat stomached type ... So he is absolutely outbid order mentioning it at all now.

And very very hurtful and inappropriate given this threesome partner is a flat stomached type.

Also - she had a nerve getting upset - why?

He's had sex with her without you present.

He's been in contact with her.

He took their interaction, including sex,outside of the arrangement involving you, onto something involving only them.
She understandably evidently thought he was interested in her etc. So if course she's angry and hurt.

Why are you getting stuck into her and her gardening or whatever; you two invited her into a threesome,band your husband independently, one on one had sex and contact with her.

You're really really focusing on and criticising the wrong person.

GilbertMarkham · 20/04/2020 16:17

When we split up he made the divorce as horrible as possible and the man who later became my second husband ...the man I'm married to now....helped me through it.

He got you when you were vulnerable and he clearly still sees you as vulnerable/malleable (and your sexuality as a good route to polygyny for him - he's not suggesting mmf threesomes, is he, he wouldn't be ok with it if you had separate sex and contact with a threesome partner) so he's tacted totally inappropriately in this situation - essentially cheated - and knows you'll take it.

Not only will you take it but you'll slag her off and not focus on him.

NoMoreDickheads · 20/04/2020 16:35

It's certainly been an eye opener. I never thought my husband would get obsessed with the 'bit of fun' person

It happens a lot. The 'bit of fun' is an escape at first, then they think she'll give them a far more exciting life than the wife.

You could ask him to block her on everything now OP- otherwise they can more easily just make up at some point, or him tell her immediately that he had to say those things for a quite home life, he didn't mean them.

You would be ok if you had a divorce- if that's what you decide to do at some point. See how you go and if he disrespects you too much in future in some way, put him in the bin.

TheCatsHaveEyes · 12/06/2021 08:15

Op I just found this thread and wondered if the situation improved for you and Dh and you were able to stop contact with her.

Perpetuallybaffled · 12/06/2021 08:58

I would class this as an emotional affair. He needs to back away from her. Flowers

Etinox · 12/06/2021 10:00

@browzingss

This is why you don’t have threesomes with a partner that you want longevity with. This wouldn’t have been an issue if it was a casual relationship but you’re married, so you’re stuck in an awkward situation
This. You play with fire...
Umberellatheweatha · 12/06/2021 10:15

So he criticises your body and he is a cheat. And he is still in contact and refuses to stop contact with the woman he cheated on you with. And has the gall to tell you you are overreacting. He is a gaslighting wanker.

Sorry op but this marriage is over. You shouldnt have to tell him his interactions are not ok, he should know. But you have even asked him to stop and had your answer. He will never change because he has no decency and no respect for you.

Of course he is happy. Because he has is cake and is eating it. And because he enjoys having you under his boot and miserable.

Get rid of this horrible person from your life.

Nononsense2 · 15/06/2021 07:56

He did cheat on you though. You can bury your head in sand but it will hunt you forever.

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