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This is what I'm writing to his wife after 'lockdown'- any suggestions for tweaks?

433 replies

hewasatwunt · 15/04/2020 22:51

Hi, please don't shoot me. Flowers

I was involved with someone who turned out to be quite dodgy. Some of you will recognized the details- have name changed just in case he views posts under my other usernames.

I think his wife should know about the hundreds of sexual assignations he's had outside marriage. I don't particularly have an axe to grind now, I just genuinely think she should know. She's in her mid 50s, she could choose a different life if she wanted.

Some people on various forums already gave me a lot of help writing this. Do any of you have any other tweaks you can suggest? All names etc have been changed.

Hi Sue, I thought you deserved to know what’s happening.

Bob is constantly seeking opportunities for encounters.

He was having an involvement with me for the best part of 18 months, from July 2018 until January 2020. I blocked him because I realized what he was like. I'm really sorry and won’t interfere in your marriage again.

Whenever he said he was with Fred and me, he was just with me. Sometimes he maybe said he was with us overnight, or gave some other excuse to be away; he was just with me. After I took him back home from his treatment, three times a week, there was some activity involved.

There’s a woman he’s seeing at times at his treatment, called Lucy. Maybe he said he was setting off early before treatment solely to give her a lift. That is not always the case. He also sometimes meets her in the afternoons.

He talks to a woman online called Eve. He has encouraged her to send him explicit photographs and videos. He’s frequently propositioning women online and asking for photos or to meet.

The first woman he mentioned having had an affair with was called Suzie and lived in Blackpool. I think that started at some point while he was studying at Manchester and finished a while after he finished there.

Around six years ago he was seeing Mina who attended the gaming club at the time. At one point they went to a bed and breakfast for a night, I think somewhere up north. His involvement with her lasted a few months.

He is bisexual and also goes to ‘adult cinemas’ where he engages in acts with several male strangers at a time. He’s been doing this for decades and it will have been hundreds if not thousands of men. He does not tend to use protection for his activities there. He tries to get women to go along to the cinema with him to join in with these pursuits, and sometimes succeeds.

There’s another woman, also called Sue, who he’s been involved with at times over the years. He invited her to go to the cinema/swingers’ clubs too. He didn’t mention this woman to me, so it just goes to show that what I’m able to let you know is just the tip of the iceberg.

There’s another dimension to this in that the women he targets or succeeds with tend to be vulnerable, or at a vulnerable time in their lives. He is exploitative, coercive and manipulative. He also lies to get what he wants, including about the nature of your relationship. Some women didn’t give meaningful consent as it was when they were ill, through exploiting their vulnerabilities, or it was given under false pretenses.

Sorry to let you know about all this, but I thought you should be aware.

-Judy.

P.S. If you want more evidence or to discuss this further, you can contact me

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blueshoes · 16/04/2020 00:46

OP, you just sound bitter and cast aside, that is why you are stirring.

Don't even pretend for a moment you have the wife's interests at heart.

Candyfloss99 · 16/04/2020 00:47

I think you should tweak it to just be one line. Tell her her husband has had lots of affairs so she has the choice to do something about it or not.

RedRedScab · 16/04/2020 00:47

Find a man who is free to pursue a normal relationship.

Please DON'T do this. Sort yourself out first.

Mustbethewine · 16/04/2020 00:51

Revenge? Did he end the affair? Moved on with another woman? Don't get involved Op, you've done enough by shagging her husband for 18 months, you dont need to involve her in your revenge plot too!!

noyoucannotcomein · 16/04/2020 00:53

All that going on, and you think she doesn't know? That none of the dozens of OW before you have told her, or she's not had her suspicions and found out? Come on now.

blueshoes · 16/04/2020 00:55

You want his wife to ditch him because he would not ditch HER for YOU.

So you are sending this cowardly email. This is such a transparent ploy. Do all OWs go to the pitiful school of rejects? My father's OW did that. My parents are still together.

Guess what, you still won't get the 'grand prize' no matter what. Heads you lose, Tails she wins. Get yourself tested in all senses of the word.

redastherose · 16/04/2020 00:58

I recognised you from your previous posts. You were unwell and coerced by someone whose profession should have meant that they fully understood your lack of reasoned consent. However, you aren't doing yourself any favours continuing to think about him.

If I were his wife I would want to know personally but she may well know precisely what sort of man she is married to. If you feel the need to say anything then simply say you have personal knowledge that he indulges in unprotected risky sexual behaviour with both sexes and you wanted to make sure she knew the risks he is taking. Then leave it and stop fixating on him.

bluebell34567 · 16/04/2020 01:02

i dont think she doesnt know what kind of a man he is.
dont waste your time and energy on him. have some therapy or something and get him out of your mind.
put this in your experience box and close it.

B1rdbra1n · 16/04/2020 01:04

Crikey 😲

Rubybluesy · 16/04/2020 01:04

Livingoncake I assume your dad was blameless and forced to have an affair by the awful OW? It takes two to have an affair remember sounds like his behaviour was worse

Livingoncake · 16/04/2020 01:34

@Rubybluesy

Can you show me where I said my dad was blameless? Of course he wasn’t, but the fallout he faced isn’t really relevant to the OP’s question, so I didn’t mention it.

Please don’t put words in my mouth. You know nothing about the situation or my feelings on it other than what I’ve stated here.

givemeacall · 16/04/2020 01:36

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Littleposh · 16/04/2020 01:43

Firstly, write this sober.

Second, write this after lockdown and see if you are as bored when you have other things to do

SandAndSea · 16/04/2020 01:48

I think this would be awful to receive.

OP, sometimes less is more.

Sadiesnakes · 16/04/2020 01:57

He's a nasty piece of work, but then so are you.

HavenDilemma · 16/04/2020 02:06

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Norwolf · 16/04/2020 02:17

😂 Really OP?? Just stop it and seek a counsellor for yourself.

1forAll74 · 16/04/2020 02:22

What nasty thoughts you have, the state of your mindset is weird to say the least.. Just get on with your own life, and make it a better lifestyle.

TheStarryNight · 16/04/2020 02:36

It’s good for your healing to be angry with him and even with yourself.

It’s not good to misdirect that anger at her.

Not good for you, not good for her.

KathyBriggs360 · 16/04/2020 02:50

His wife needs to know what sort of person he is. And after what he did to you I totally understand you wanting revenge on him. Good luck hun and let us know how it goes x

CJsGoldfish · 16/04/2020 03:13

It's not very well written so I'm not sure who 'helped' you.

OP you need to put this aside and seek help. Have you spoken to anyone at all in this regard? Counselling should be the no.1 thing on your mind right now.

Dita73 · 16/04/2020 03:59

£50 says the OP’s next post will be titled “Should I boil my ex’s bunny?”

HoppingPavlova · 16/04/2020 04:14

Your letter essentially says:

‘Hi Sue, I was more than happy to have an affair with your DH behind your back for 18 months and would have happily kept this going but things have gone pear shaped between us and so now I’m angry and bitter and writing this to let you know. No hard feelings hey!. Bye’

Don’t be an utter dick.

MsDogLady · 16/04/2020 04:14

I recall two of your threads about this man. You ended it with him when Mumsnetters and your therapist helped you realize that this predator had sexually/emotionally abused and coerced you. He is in a helping profession and uses his job title to troll for women to exploit.

In the aforementioned threads, you never mentioned that he was married, so you did manipulate posters in that respect.

I agree with @redastherose regarding what to say to his wife if you do tell her....a short message regarding his risky sexual behavior. I also agree that you are damaging your mental health by continuing to obsess over this man.

KatherineJaneway · 16/04/2020 04:40

He was having an involvement with me

Your letter is exceptionally poorly written and does not deal in facts, just vague accusations like you are throwing loads of crap and hope some of it sticks.

I don't think you should send the letter but if you do, at least put some facts in it. What the heck does 'involvement' mean? If you were having a sexual relationship then say that.