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This is what I'm writing to his wife after 'lockdown'- any suggestions for tweaks?

433 replies

hewasatwunt · 15/04/2020 22:51

Hi, please don't shoot me. Flowers

I was involved with someone who turned out to be quite dodgy. Some of you will recognized the details- have name changed just in case he views posts under my other usernames.

I think his wife should know about the hundreds of sexual assignations he's had outside marriage. I don't particularly have an axe to grind now, I just genuinely think she should know. She's in her mid 50s, she could choose a different life if she wanted.

Some people on various forums already gave me a lot of help writing this. Do any of you have any other tweaks you can suggest? All names etc have been changed.

Hi Sue, I thought you deserved to know what’s happening.

Bob is constantly seeking opportunities for encounters.

He was having an involvement with me for the best part of 18 months, from July 2018 until January 2020. I blocked him because I realized what he was like. I'm really sorry and won’t interfere in your marriage again.

Whenever he said he was with Fred and me, he was just with me. Sometimes he maybe said he was with us overnight, or gave some other excuse to be away; he was just with me. After I took him back home from his treatment, three times a week, there was some activity involved.

There’s a woman he’s seeing at times at his treatment, called Lucy. Maybe he said he was setting off early before treatment solely to give her a lift. That is not always the case. He also sometimes meets her in the afternoons.

He talks to a woman online called Eve. He has encouraged her to send him explicit photographs and videos. He’s frequently propositioning women online and asking for photos or to meet.

The first woman he mentioned having had an affair with was called Suzie and lived in Blackpool. I think that started at some point while he was studying at Manchester and finished a while after he finished there.

Around six years ago he was seeing Mina who attended the gaming club at the time. At one point they went to a bed and breakfast for a night, I think somewhere up north. His involvement with her lasted a few months.

He is bisexual and also goes to ‘adult cinemas’ where he engages in acts with several male strangers at a time. He’s been doing this for decades and it will have been hundreds if not thousands of men. He does not tend to use protection for his activities there. He tries to get women to go along to the cinema with him to join in with these pursuits, and sometimes succeeds.

There’s another woman, also called Sue, who he’s been involved with at times over the years. He invited her to go to the cinema/swingers’ clubs too. He didn’t mention this woman to me, so it just goes to show that what I’m able to let you know is just the tip of the iceberg.

There’s another dimension to this in that the women he targets or succeeds with tend to be vulnerable, or at a vulnerable time in their lives. He is exploitative, coercive and manipulative. He also lies to get what he wants, including about the nature of your relationship. Some women didn’t give meaningful consent as it was when they were ill, through exploiting their vulnerabilities, or it was given under false pretenses.

Sorry to let you know about all this, but I thought you should be aware.

-Judy.

P.S. If you want more evidence or to discuss this further, you can contact me

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Winterlife · 15/04/2020 23:40

Were I to receive an email like that, I would investigate you, and then forward that email to everyone you know. Just so that your friends and family "deserve to know what's happening".

You're not noble. You're not doing this to "help" this woman. In her fifties, if she's been married to him for any length of time, she already knows.

As others have posted, leave her alone.

Pieceofpurplesky · 15/04/2020 23:40

Please don't and please seek help for your obsession. You are better than this.

noyoucannotcomein · 15/04/2020 23:40

What are these "treatments"? Confused

Didkdt · 15/04/2020 23:40

You fecked up you snagged a married man believed his lies and happily skipped
along shagging at every chance and then he stunned you by moving on when you've been soooo sympathetic and understanding and believed no one else had your connection and understanding.

Don't rub her nose in your excrement just because you feel bad for being so stupid

AllTheseThingsThatIHaveNotDone · 15/04/2020 23:41

Why are all of you saying the wife should be kept in the dark when the husband is having multiple sexual encounters without contraception therefore putting her at risk from stds?

OP, now is not the best time given lockdown and corona but I would be sending one message and one message only and that would be the following:
If you are still having sexual relations with your husband get yourself tested, along with the address of the local gum clinic.
Suggest you do the same OP if you haven't already.
www.ageuk.org.uk/latest-news/archive/rise-in-stis-among-over-50s/
If you are all under 50 the advice remains the same - perhaps more so if he is having sex with his wife frequently (and I would not believe it if he said they weren't. it's part of the script). She might not know in which case she is a sitting duck.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 15/04/2020 23:44

I mean, the wife urgently needs an std test. I think someone has to tell her something or she could end up with a very serious illness. But this letter is all about you OP. It's absolutely comes across as obsessed and unhinged. Write something short and deeply apologetic which gives enough detail for the poor woman to know she needs to visit a gum clinic urgently, then take all that guilt and hurt and anger you've poured into the original letter and deal with it your fucking self. Your letter absolutely drips self loathing and that is for you alone to carry. Do not dump it onto the actual victim.

CuppaZa · 15/04/2020 23:45

OP you keep coming back here, despite very good advice you have received. Yes, he took advantage of you. He abused his trusted position. He has kinks.
Please seek therapy from a new avenue

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 15/04/2020 23:55

Where is your dignity and self respect OP? You chose to activly destroy this woman by having a relationship with this man then when you decide you want revenge its her who gets it by you sticking the boot in a final time? She has done no wrong, you on the other hand have done and said enough...You are trying to hurt the wrong person.Grow the fuck up and leave the woman alone..she doesnt need your intervention,If you knew he was married you shouldnt have gone there in the first place but sadly it suited you at the time to do so...You are as guilty as he is.Leave her in peace. Your selfishness is astounding.

Aus84 · 16/04/2020 00:01

Oh god- your letter is so cold and heartless. TBH I would want to know all this if it were my husband. He's risking her health if they are still sexually active, but how do you know she doesn't already know all this? Maybe they have some sort of 'arrangement' and their relationship is mutually beneficial?

TheVanguardSix · 16/04/2020 00:05

Hell hath no fury, eh OP?

honeyloops · 16/04/2020 00:05

I've got a very strong feeling I actually know who this is, and if I do then she already knows. Not sure if the details have been changed or not but if they haven't - you're not going to get the kind of satisfaction you clearly crave from this.

Shrubbish · 16/04/2020 00:06

I think we're all wasting our time.

The OP has so little self respect she knowingly and willingly shags the poor woman's husband, whilst he shags around with all and sundry including men.

That says alot about you OP, just as much as your letter does.

You're not over it, that much is obvious, so I'm going to appeal to you in a way which I suspect will resonate.

if you send that letter, he won't come running back to you

Remember that.

honeyloops · 16/04/2020 00:08

Actually even if I've got this wrong and it is just a similar situation my point still stands - you might think you're doing this to be 'kind' but you're not, you're doing it for revenge and to get one over on him. All you're actually going to do is either break someone's heart, or remind someone of something they already know. Which one is going to feel good to you? I'm guessing neither.

Amotherof6 · 16/04/2020 00:10

No way.
You and him are over and you now want to expose him.... ummm so why not when you were together.... this is about you more than 'helping his wife'....

Move on.

DeeCeeCherry · 16/04/2020 00:10

Your letter is so vague and badly written that she may not even believe you. Or may see you as a shit-stirrer who's angry at being dumped. Or she may already know what he gets up to.

You were having sex with this man knowing all about his unprotected sex escapades? Get yourself an STD test, treatment for your very low self-esteem, then just go and be quiet somewhere. Or you'll ruin your life faster than you'd ever ruin his.

JKScot4 · 16/04/2020 00:11

So for whatever reasons he ditched you and you can’t get him back so decide to send this to his wife?
Just nasty,I’m sure she’s well aware.

Hunnybears · 16/04/2020 00:12

Personally I don’t think you can have an affair for 18 months and then decide it’s morally wrong out of the blue. Perhaps a few weeks but not 18 months come on 🙄

Seems like it didn’t work out the way you’d hoped and then you found out about all of the other ‘other’ women.

You now want revenge but are dressing it up as taking the moral high ground.

LookTheOtherWayPlease · 16/04/2020 00:16

I think you should 100% send it. if I was his wife I would want to know asap so I could get my own sexual health checked.

Does it matter what the motives are? Anyone would want to know these things!

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 16/04/2020 00:19

OP look at it from this angle...you wanted him ,you took him for a while all fine and dandy but when you werent good enough to be able to tame him and he kicked you to the kerb you didnt like it. Shout and scream all you like but remember you are only doing it cos you couldnt tame him You thought you could be the one and your not,,nowhere near, Your failings lay with yourself not her not him.Why anyone would want him is a mystery but she doesnt deserve to be dragged into your saga.If you had managed to keep him you wouldnt be thinking about this now you would be rubbing your hands in satisfaction and not making a sound.Dont pretend ever this is about saving her its not.Its about how you werent clever enough to keep him and you want revenge for that.Well its tough but your as bad as he is ,Leave her alone and own your own fuck up and failings.

Blubelle7 · 16/04/2020 00:30

You were knowingly sleeping with her husband for 18 months and now you are "concerned" and adamant she should know?

Are you "concerned" or just bitter your relationship with him went south and you want revenge?

Leave the woman alone and stop phrasing this like it is a noble act
FFS

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popsydoodle4444 · 16/04/2020 00:33

Eeewwww he sounds like a walking STD.I wouldn't wish this on anyone normally but feck me it sounds as though the corona virus needs to take one for the team here.

Oh and @hewasatwunt don't send it.I get you want to tell her what a gobshite he is but truthfully she probably already knows he's a cheater.the partners of serial cheats aren't as naive as you think the majority of the time.

The email you want to send has so much detail in it sounds made up and to be truthful:malicious.

Move on.Get a STI screening.Find a man who is free to pursue a normal relationship.

wildcherries · 16/04/2020 00:40

You were knowingly sleeping with her husband for 18 months and now you are "concerned" and adamant she should know?

Yeah, this. Don't pretend this is for anyone's sake than your own need to lash out. You want revenge. But it won't make anything feel better, and he won't come back. Move on and leave the woman alone.

Livingoncake · 16/04/2020 00:41

The wife deserves to know that she’s at risk of STIs, so tell her that, but don’t give her all the grubby details you’ve included here. You don’t know what that might do to her mental state.

You remind me of my dad’s mistress from back in the day. She had a hell of a tantrum when Dad decided to give her the flick and work on his marriage. She harassed my mum with letters and phone calls and sordid details, and you know what she achieved? Nothing. Mum and Dad stayed together. Dad saw Mistress for the pathetic, selfish creature she was and threatened legal action if she didn’t leave his family alone.

Whatever you are hoping to gain from that sordid letter, I don’t think you’ll get it.

EmmiJay · 16/04/2020 00:46

Don't send it OP. I feel the poor wife already knows shes married to community dick. Leave her be. You move on. Its hard but you'll get over it.