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KindaConfused20 · 14/04/2020 12:15

Hello everyone, thankyou for taking the time to read my post.

I would like to share my experience as a partner living with someone who has agoraphobia and hope that you can offer me some advice / understanding.

I am 25 years old, been with my partner 3 years this month and married since July last year.

Anyways here's the story leading up to now

Me and my wife met 3 years ago, I noticed that she had a fear of the smell of cannabis. She would run away in public if someone was using it, I thought this unusual but did not judge.

After 6 months we moved in together, I began to notice she was awake throughout the night extremely often and she would tell me the next morning it was anxiety keeping her awake.

Eventually I recommend she got some therapy as she was hardly sleeping, slacking at work, her mothers terminally ill in a care home and her father is not handling that well so we "parent" him so to speak also she had been physically abused in a past relationship.

She had several sessions with a hyponotherpaist who made alot of progress with her, her sleeping habits return back to normal and she was back to her old self.

We moved into a bigger house, both got better jobs and got engaged, lived a normal life (minus her fear of cannabis, our neighbour smoked it so this became an issue to the point she began to tape the letter box up at night incase the neighbour "blew smoke through the letterbox".) I thought this was odd but everyone has there quirks right?

Then began the agoraphobia.

She began panicking anytime we were not at home and I had to take her straight home, it started with long distance and got smaller and smaller to the point she couldnt leave town. She became terrified of traffic. Each time she got stuck in traffic in a part of town she stopped going there until there was next to nowhere she would go.

This carried on for months which was manageable l, I made all important journeys by myself, we got her working from home, we got married near to home etc.

Then she began to call me back from work ( an hour and a half drive ) saying she was panicking, this became so regular that I lost my work, she began threatening that I could not come home if I left for work and that I wouldn't do it if I loved her.

Since then I have got work close to home but she now restricts my whole life.

I can not leave the house for more than 1 hour at a time if I am close by ( 1 mile ) she has to know where i am exactly and I can expect to recieve several phone calls during that time to check on me and my location is checked by snapchat. Often when I try to leave I will drive down the road and get called home.

If she has to go into her work office near our house then I have to sit in the car and wait for her with the same threats. I can be there for up to 6 hours.

Whenever I try talk to her about it she tells me she will try to let me go more but she doesn't, she just says it to get through another day.

The worst part is I have to hide it from everyone, no body knows. She forces me to lie and I am constantly making excuses and looking unreliable to everybody I know and any work opportunity that comes my way I am prevented from taking.

Over time this has been effecting me mentally and has put a strain on our relationship to breaking point.

I have no freedom, I have to ask to go for a walk and even then I am rarely allowed to go.

I am beginning to feel trapped but I love my wife and we have so much together.

I spent hours a day thinking I want to leave and it makes me feel sick because I love her but I hate being trapped.

How can I help her?

Will she ever recover?

What do I do when she won't even tell the truth to a therapist ?

Am I wrong for wanting to leave the marriage ?

Anything you can offer me as advice would be greatly appreciated.

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EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 14/04/2020 12:42

The worst part is I have to hide it from everyone, no body knows. She forces me to lie

Fuck that. You tell her that from now on, if she's emotionally blackmailing you to throw yourself under the bus of her mental health, you'll be telling anyone who needs to know the reasons for your non-attendance/lateness/etc.

lonelySam · 14/04/2020 13:09

Run away as fast as you can.
Yes, you made vows to her but she is also obliged to look after her mental health.
If she doesn't want to do that then it is stupid of you to ruin your life for her.

Wellwhatdouknow · 14/04/2020 15:40

This is no way to live. For either of you. Honestly, you sit her down and tell her that you love her but cannot continue being a prisoner to her mental health. Her behaviour is slowly pushing you away. There will come a point where you wont be able to take anymore and walk away. She needs to understand that this.

Aquamarine1029 · 14/04/2020 15:44

Tell her she gets help and faces her issues head-on NOW or your marriage is over. You simply can't live like this. You also need to stop pandering to her every demand, because it's ridiculous and clearly not helping.

BaronessBomburst · 14/04/2020 15:45

What would happen if you didn't sit in the car or come home immediately when called?
What would she do? Just keep phoning and texting, or something else?

SylvanianFrenemies · 14/04/2020 15:53

Tell her to seek help or you will leave.

It's ok to leave now, if you want to.

Start talking to people, and start living your life. She may not mean it to be, but her behaviour is abusive. You deserve more.

Ryah1 · 14/04/2020 15:55

First, I’m sorry that you and your wife are going through such difficulties. Reading your account it is clear that you love your wife. That being said the best thing for you to do is to take care of your own mental health first. The restrictions placed o. You by your wife and feelings you are experiencing have the potential to cause you damage. I think that you are going to have to be firmer with her, take the time you need and switch off your phone, even if it’s only for 20 minutes a day. She is responsible for seeking help, explain that your marriage is at risk if she does not make an effort to change or at least seek help.

KindaConfused20 · 14/04/2020 16:20

@BaronessBomburst she would freak out and quote her “have a heart attack” . she also would not allow me back into the house and would not be reasonable in anyway in regards to our shared finances, assets, and 2 pets. She’s also mentioned that she would consider taking her own life if I leave. She may also attempt to sabotage me work wise.

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Interestedwoman · 14/04/2020 16:23

This is no fun for you OP. I agree with PPs that perhaps consider saying she gets evidence-based help now or it's over. You could also say you won't put up with the threats anymore- it actually doesn't help her to rely on another person, she needs to learn to self-soothe and/or sit with it.

Medication helps anxiety- if one thing doesn't work there are dozens of others they can try. She could talk to her GP, probably over the phone at the moment, and they could arrange this for her and maybe put her on the list for therapy.

Raffathebear · 14/04/2020 16:25

Leave her.

Interestedwoman · 14/04/2020 16:26

she would freak out and quote her “have a heart attack”

No, she won't. If she threatens suicide then just call an ambulance. She gets no choice over the finances etc- that's a legal thing.

Claiming she'll cause trouble for you at work is not on at all.

Interestedwoman · 14/04/2020 16:26

Lots of people have anxiety, but they're not usually nasty with it.

Welshgal85 · 14/04/2020 16:30

I am so sorry that this is happening to you and that she is not well.

Would she consider therapy at all? Lots of places do telephone and online counselling which she could do from home if she was willing to? You could also do with some emotional support by the sounds of things, please consider reaching out to someone you can talk to for support, whether that is a trusted friend or family member or a counselling service you can access.

KindaConfused20 · 14/04/2020 16:54

@Interestedwoman she has suspicion of any medication, I’ve already managed to get her to doctors and they prescribed her medication but did not take them whilst telling me she did, there is no way she will ever take medication voluntarily.

@Welshgal85
She has been through 3 therapists already, she gets angry with them and she fails to be honest with them, only giving them small amounts of info, leaving out the behaviour she is making me hide.

Thankyou both for your help.

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KindaConfused20 · 14/04/2020 16:56

@Interestedwoman she is definitely not nasty, I almost see her and her anxiety as 2 different personalities. This is what makes it difficult, I know she is going through her issues.

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category12 · 14/04/2020 17:03

If she won't accept medication or external help, then you have little choice but to leave her - it's become an abusive situation, whether she intends it or not, and you're enabling her rather than helping her, really.

I would let her family/friends/MH support services know when you leave. Can you move back with your parents or something in the meantime? You can forewarn your employers that she may make allegations against you.

Welshgal85 · 14/04/2020 17:05

@kindaconfused20 I see, this all must be so difficult for you. The difficult thing is that as much as we want to, we cannot change other people’s lives for them, you cannot force her to seek help if she doesn’t want to as much as that is upsetting for you as you just want to help the one you love. Sadly you can’t do it for her.

The only thing we can control in life is how we respond to things ourselves I suppose and perhaps if you were able to get some support for you from a counsellor this could help you a bit to deal with things as this must be a huge strain on your own emotional health

genie10 · 14/04/2020 17:13

You are young and have to have a life of your own. You feel obliged to "help" her but in reality, this is just preventing her recovery. Can you speak to your GP, and to MIND? Although she is clearly unwell, she may ruin your whole life for years by her emotional blackmailing, until you eventually leave. Better to leave now.

KindaConfused20 · 14/04/2020 17:15

@category12 at this point I would consider sleeping in my car to get out of the situation. Finding somewhere else to live really won’t be a problem it’s mainly the fact that I am torn, it makes no sense in my heart to leave someone that I care about and who needs me but your right I don’t think I am helping, it’s only got worse since we’ve been together.

Part of me feels like it’s a bad dream and that I might wake up to a normal life, not having to undoe the vows I took less than a year ago.

@Welshgal85 Thankyou I think you are right I do need to contact a councillor, it’s just very difficult as I am unable to go and see a councillor and any conversations I could have with one over the phone will be listened in on by my wife making me not be able to really talk to them. I’m glad you can see It from my view, makes me feel like I’m not going mad!

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KellyHall · 14/04/2020 17:16

She sounds like she needs to be sectioned.

She's manipulating your whole existence and that's very real abuse.

I'm sure you do love the person you know she is capable of being, but the person she actually is?

EthelMayFergus · 14/04/2020 17:19

As bad as this situation is now - and it's very, very bad - it seems to be getting worse. Her anxieties are increasing so what you're doing now in appeasing her and obeying her every command is not working. What would she do if you told your family or friends? How would she handle that? Because you really need some support. I have no idea how you help someone who steadfastly refuses to accept any treatment at all, I suspect that you can't help her to change her situation, but you really need to change yours.

KindaConfused20 · 14/04/2020 17:25

@KellyHall this is the thing she is that person, when we are at home relaxing she is the woman I fell in love with. It’s the second I want to leave that she changes.

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Musti · 14/04/2020 17:28

She sounds very mentally ill and needs professional help. You need to speak to someone as it could get quite dangerous. I'm not a professional but it sounds like she could be schizophrenic or something.

KindaConfused20 · 14/04/2020 17:32

@Musti she has agrophobia.

It’s not that she’s dangerous it’s that she is genuinely scared to death of me leaving.

I normally have to assure her I will actually be coming home before I can even leave for work, (60 mins of work then back home)

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Welshgal85 · 14/04/2020 17:32

@KindaConfused20 you’re not going mad, it sounds like you are in an incredibly hard situation but you cannot do it alone. Could you speak to family members (hers or yours) about it? You shouldn’t be carrying all of this on your shoulders alone, your loved ones will want to support you.

There are some helpline services that have text, email or we chat services which may be easier for you to access maybe? Shout, Calm and Mind. Also have you spoke to your gp about it? They may also be able to suggest some support services

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